Nobody begrudges a random glimmer of hope in an otherwise mediocre landscape Begbie.

But most of us recognise that the mediocre landscape DOES exist.

Just wondering if a second licence for a Perth club would be they way to go??? There is a market out there for 15,000 to 20,000 football supporters, it's just that Glory do a sterling job disenfranchising about 10,000 to 15,000 each year from the start of a season to the end. I'm sure there'd be enough sponsorship dollars around town to support an owner who is not Sage. FFS, half his own companies probably sponsor the club. It is such an incestuous relationship.

I'm at the point where I want be supporting a club that is run well. The Glory brand is beyond damaged in my view. Fans are turning away.

Whilst Sage is there NOTHING WILL CHANGE. The same cycle has repeated year on end for the past five seasons or so. That just says to me that someone is not learning from their mistakes which is a reflection of either not caring or being stupid and not learning.

I do not have time for people like that in my life, let alone support an organisation with those policies.

A new club would bring vibrancy back into the Perth market and force Glory to react. My guess is nothing would change and they would wither. No loss, Perth would still have a team, just not Glory.

I wasn't going to respond to you as it seems to be an increasingly pointless exercise, but its lunch time and I have nothing better to do.

1. When did I say " ... it's ok to support the board and owner who are ruining the club"?
2. When did I ever express a view that could be said to support "If Lowe is appointed for next season (with Burns at the club as coach) that is the 4th time an assistant will be coach of Glory, the fifth time Sage has gone with a cheap option. If you think there's something to look forward too, again that's your view"?
3. Please tell me where I put any words in your mouth or claimed that you hold views that you don't have?

If you are as "insulted or disgusted by what is happening at Glory off the pitch" as you claim to be, why don't you either do something about it or walk away? Doing something about it however doesn't include merely spouting off to the small number of people who read this forum. It would mean actually engaging with people at the club and more broadly, making your views known and explaining them. You might dismiss the Fan Forum as a "Members Only Press Conference" but you weren't there, so ...

This bit is a bit self indulgent but anyway. My wife is a basketball person, played State basketball, lot of friends in the local basketball community. As a result, I became a fan as well. Watched every game, season ticket holders at the Wildcats etc.

After the 2002/03 season when the Wildcats made the Grand Final but lost, Alan Black was suprisingly sacked as coach. My wife was friends with and played in the same team as Alan's wife and as result, we knew what (in fact, who) was behind the sacking and why. I made the decision then that I would no longer support the Wildcats while the two individuals concerned had anything to do with the club and I haven't. Not even watched a game on TV. We still follow basketball eg we go to WNBL games, Boomers when they are here and went to an NBA game in the States but refuse to have anything to do with the Wildcats. I would suggest that option is open to you.

You made a comment in an earlier post about the enthusiasm and energy of Ryan Edwards v WSW. I agree he showed a lot but he also had a successful pass % of only 62% (21/34) and successfully took on a player only 4 out of 14 attempts. So he turned over possession 23 times. He did recover the ball 8 times though (one of them out on the left as you pointed out) but that still leaves him 15 down. Doesn't compare favourably with most of his team mates (McLaren and Clisby had equally poor passing stats)

I think Ryan Edwards is a good player who has been badly treated. You don't come through one of the best academies in England and play for the Socceroos if you are crap. I don't think he is good enough at the moment that he was a seemingly automatic first choice #10 as he was under his Dad. The fact that against WSW he kept trying to take players on despite his lack of success, suggests he was trying too hard, which you probably would do if you had been left out of the side for as many weeks as he had. I hope he gets another run this week against Newcastle.

Anyone got a picture or can provide me a picture of the blue and white kit Glory wore once which was during the 2012/13 season?, I think.

Edited by Polenz: 26/3/2014 05:31:55 PM

What, the SGIO 150th special?

Ok, at last I think I get it.


You guys want 'Youth Developement and Future Planning' and are willing to trade away any short term success as 'performances and reslults' will follow if we stick to a 3 year plan?


Am I on the money here?

'Youth Developement and Future Planning' = Short term-pain then Big Pay-off
Non-Three Year Plan = Short-term mediocre results, long-term mediocre results

It's all about being able to handle delayed gratification.

I keep referring to Adelaide... but they have shown that you don't even need to necessarily sacrifice the short-term to build something future-minded. Well... half-a-season was sacrificed maybe. But now they have a distinct and enviable playing style, genuine quality within their squad and a youth structure combined with a number of talented youngsters already getting a chance to play in a successful first team.

Neither "future planning" nor "youth development" are necessarily at the expense of short-term success. In fact, bringing younger players into a successful and winning team environment probably does them more good than throwing a bunch of them in the deep end and waiting to see if any of them can swim.

Either way, Glory is a perfect example of what clubs should not do.

They do it every season like some sort of sick benchmarking exercise for the A-League.

AU and Roar are what the club should be aspiring to.

Just unfortunate the club wouldn't recognise aspiration even if it slapped them in the face and then rubbed their noses in it. They'd probably think it was a bad thing because it hurt. ](*,)

Mathematically impossible, so those expecting some wholesale changes from here on ... you can stop reading right now.

... maybe try and guess the actual crowd figure, (plus the alternate crowd figure displayed) for this blockbuster.

Sunday, 30 March 2014
[size=7]Perth Glory v Newcastle Jets[/size]
nib Stadium, Perth
Kick-off: 4:00pm local (7:00pm AEDT)
Referee: Kris Griffiths-Jones
Assistant Referee 1: Mathew Cheeseman
Assistant Referee 2: Tim Mihevc
Fourth Official: David Bruce

Perth Glory Squad:
2.Jack CLISBY, 3. Brandon O’NEILL, 4. Ryan EDWARDS 5. Rostyn GRIFFITHS, 7. Jacob BURNS (c) , 8. Nebojsa MARINKOVIC,10. Jamie MACLAREN, 14. Steven McGARRY, 16.Sidnei SCIOLA MORAES 17. Chris HAROLD, 18. Jack DUNCAN(GK), 19. Josh RISDON, 24. Matthew DAVIES, 23. Michael THWAITE, , 25. Riley WOODCOCK, 28. Darvydas SERNAS, 36. William GALLAS, 39. Luke RADONICH (GK)
**Two to be omitted**
Ins:
16.Sidnei SCIOLA MORAES (promoted), 25. Riley WOODCOCK (promoted)
Outs:
Diddly squat
Unavailable:
Travis DODD (knee - indefinite), Scott JAMIESON (Achilles - indefinite), Shane SMELTZ (groin- 1 week)

Newcastle Jets squad:
1.Mark BIRIGHITTI (gk), 3.Taylor REGAN, 4.Kew JALIENS, 5.Ben KANTAROVSKI, 6.Zenon CARAVELLA, 8.Ruben ZADKOVICH (c), 9.Emile HESKEY, 11.Craig GOODWIN, 14.Josh MITCHELL, 15.Josh BRILLANTE, 16.Jacob PEPPER, 19.Michael BRIDGES, 21.Sam GALLAWAY, 20.Ben KENNEDY (gk), 22.Adam TAGGART, 23.David CARNEY, 24.Mitch OXBORROW, 29.Joel GRIFFITHS
**Two to be omitted**
Ins:
3.Taylor REGAN (promoted), 16.Jacob PEPPER (promoted).
Outs:
Nil.
Unavailable:
2.Scott NEVILLE (knee injury – long term) 25.Mitch COOPER (knee injury – long term).

This is usually Glory's charity game.

I hope for all our sakes we get raped. I do not want a win and then have Sage and Lowe come out and say............

One fears any decent result in the last 3 games will have us 'on the right track' for next season.
Alas, NO.

Is it the Charity game, or is it the funny shirt game or something I read somewhere when I was interested?
Perhaps they're one and the same, or we've got 2 separate things for our last 2 home games.

Oh, and it is a Sunday game, not as originally fixtured as Saturday evening by FFA.
But oh, we've looked after our supporters by getting FFA to shift to 4.00pm kick-off on account of the heat.
Dear CEO, forecast max is 23 degrees - try getting things done when it has some meaning and relevance.

4pm KO hey???

Fantastic, I can concentrate on watching the F1 at the same time without having to watch Glory. :lol:

Edited by hotrod: 27/3/2014 05:23:33 PM

Oh drat, have to double my crowd estimate now.

Dear Member,

We would like to thank you for all your support and loyalty throughout this season.

As a special thanks we will be giving you the chance to WIN a 2014/15 Perth Glory Membership. Simply attend this weeks game on Sunday 30 March, scan your membership card through the gates and automatically you will be entered into the draw.

We will draw the winner and announce via email and social media on Monday 31 March.

Good Luck!

BE PART OF IT
Perth Glory Football Club

Good to see they're giving away memberships for free now. It's about all their worth.

thats the only way i'd get a membership for next season but you can rule me out as i can think of a million better ways to spend my weekend than watching this train wreck.

ONE membership. Hardly going to lift the attendances much for next season, or for the next match either, although if things get really bad, I suppose one membership might be significant in percentage terms.

Lowe into the last six. The odds are shortening. :shock:

Decision time in two weeks. [-o<

Glory closer to naming new coach

Edited by hotrod: 28/3/2014 09:52:27 AM

I thought more than 1 single poster would have been willing to take short term pain for long term gain but no, only one person will to endorse it.

Now what does that tell us?

Do you still think Lowe is a shoe-in?

Shoe in?
I know where I'd like to put the boot in.
The worsest bit about that Worst article is that Lowe has made the cut based on merit.

What?
I'd still challenge anyone to -

1) Highlight some improvement in our game plan in that time - big deal, maybe we've tried to pass the ball on the ground a little bit (grasshopper soccer 101);

2) Find any game plan in that time;

3) Name one single player who has improved in that time;

and so on and so on, we've had 14 games to see some benefits in the coaching change.

And rugby league on Saturday night at Perth Oval - hence why FFA switched our match from their original fixtures - some good organising by someone there.

That people are tired of conversing with you?






I have more hope than I did before, when I had heard it was Lowe and just one other guy - but, as Shanagar said...

We have 50+ applicants if Brewer is to be believed. It's whittled down to 6, and one of those 6 has overseen fights in training, poor performances on the park, and a (potentially) a record low position for the club. You're telling me that there were 44+ worse candidates than that?

Fuck me. Is my old high school PhysEd teacher one of the other applicants?

This "story" (presumably press release) about appointing a new coach is, I fear, just preparing the groundwork for Lowe. Glory shove two senior players out there to make the blindingly obvious point that getting a permanent coach in asap is important and then have them back Lowe. Glory will go through their process and appoint him because "he knows the players" (a la Fergie) and we are away.

I HOPE I am wrong. I hope that Lowe is being kept in the mix to keep him doing his job for the next 2 weeks and as a means to justify having him as an interim coach at all. If Lowe is appointed, he is going to have a HUGE mountain to climb in terms of gaining many fans' confidence that he can achieve something - because implementing any proper structure will take some time. A new coach will be more likely to be given the benefit of the doubt in changing things up and copping bad results in the process.

@ Begbie. Why do we all have to run along and endorse your epiphany (if that is what it was). If you can't understand what the general mood is on here, then you have very little grasp of the english language.

is that it? rather than champion the cause of short term gain people would rather ignore posters than debate tthe issue?

For an announcement likely to be made in two weeks, just after Glory's last game, it has to be Lowe.

All other reasonable leagues would be in full swing. It would be bad form to make such an announcement at that time.

Not too sure an an announcement of a foreign coach would occur in two weeks but in two months after all seasons have finished.

No...




The topic has been discussed to death. If you've only just understood what the other side was saying, perhaps re-read some of the past comments on the subject rather than make pages 301-305 a repeat of something 50 pages ago...



Meanwhile, promoting Woodcock back to the squad - any point? Clisby seems to be given the license to play at left back, which is fine for the guy except I don't think it's his best (or even second best) position.

Why? Unless I am misreading it, you seem to be assuming that the successful applicant is currently employed. I'm not sure anyone who is currently in stable (and if they are good enough to get the job,presumably reasonably successful) employment would be contemplating jumping ship to join the Glory.

It is not unusual when running a selection process to short list the acting/interim occupant, even if they are unlikely to be the preferred applicant. It saves face for everyone.

Although I think Kenny Lowe could have done a better job in better circumstances (select own squad, full pre-season etc), I do not think he should, or will, get the job.

I hope we don't get a re-cycled A-League coach. Does Josep Gombau have a twin brother by any chance?

That someone had already answered you so the rest of the regulars didn't feel the need to rehash the topic. You wouldn't have gotten multiple replies if you had asked if people breathed oxygen and the first reply was "yes" either.

Also, there were two replies to your post, not one. The substance of your claims is fading fast.

I agree... I suspect Lowe is on the shortlist because he is, in effect, the incumbent and therefore other candidates need to be assessed against what he brings. Presumably the *only* criteria where they might not stack up against his record this season would be 'willing to work for peanuts". Unlike many others I would be genuinely surprised if Lowe was given the gig.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if the other 5 candidates included names like Harnwell, Naven, Kosmina, Aloisi and Culina... in which case no-one is going to be happy even if it doesn't end up being Lowe.

Funnily enough... going back through the history of Perth Glory (even before Sage), the club has never really nailed a coaching appointment. Mich d'Avray (our only title-winning coach) was a promoted assistant, and in a lot of ways you question whether or not *anyone* could've beaten those old NSL clubs with the squad and resourced we had then.

We had Stange which was, I guess a qualified success. We had McMahon which compared to every other HAL coach probably wasn't actually that bad. Surely it's time to go for another genuine overseas candidate (noting that other foreigners d'Avray, Ferguson, etc. were appointed from within the Australian system).

I'm expecting, for what it's worth, a recycled HAL coach... probably Aloisi or Kosmina. Aloisi would be thought of as marketable based on his World Cup player experience. Kosmina would be seen as a safe and proven HAL standard candidate. While I don't agree with either of those facts, I think they are the sorts of things that the recruiting consultant will put forward for the club.