Second hatrick in two games. Is there a cross over with the start of the a-league and the NPL? Is Maclaren in the NPL side for the whole season?

Anyone gone to any of the games? Worth going to? Might go watch them play Bayswater in round 9.

Edited by soil: 26/4/2014 04:27:56 PM

Depends what you expect. I've always enjoyed the state league, therefore I enjoy the NPL, as it's a natural evolution.

The Baysie game should be interesting. Chris Coyne has some well-known opinions on the player points cap keeping older pros out of some of the sides at the expense of allegedly unready youngsters due to them attracting a lot of points...

Well, Fox seem to think that Hersi is a certainty for Perth...

Have to be. All the rumours that we dismissed as not likely to be true, because we haven't picked a coach yet, seem to be turning out to be true, even the one that Lowe had been given the job well ahead of the selection process.

Would have to be true, meets Glory's new age bracket for youth development, etc.
There's a big difference between signing some experienced 25 - 28 years, and guys that'll be about 32 next season.
I take it he's classed as an overseas player taking up one of the spots.

Last post went missing I think, but I noted some season and player stats on the Fox site.
Glory made the top 5 teams in only 2 stats .... yellow cards and offsides.
A sterling effort that.

Number of 'local products' within Glory's squad now: 10?

+ 'Perth/WA-born' players = 12?

I guess that's something?! Rostyn Griffiths discussed it in the recent FFT article/interview he did:

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/news/crowning-glory-griffiths-says-perth-can-be-title-challengers

Hopefully we're not after Hersi - but given trends, you guys could be right on that too. IF Lowe is insisting on his signing, then hopefully Lowe's tactical system/plans are clear, including Hersi's potential role. Like Marinkovic, Djulbic and Griffiths, it's on Lowe and how he can best utilise their talents, combined with the rest, early into next season. This will be ever more 'his squad' now and his success or otherwise will be scrutinised even closer, now he has the gig f/t. Let's hope is doesn't have to come to another mid-season change/circus - rinse and repeat - so, hopefully, no matter who Lowe signs, his team is performing well and the players performing to task.



Wow - quick to insult there. I'm not arguing we couldn't do better - infact I concur with Hot Rod's sentiments (About needing to replace Miller. his qualities) - but fact remains Lowe signed him for that possie, plays him there and he is, for better or worse, contracted for next season (Unlike 'loanee'/IR Sernas for instance)!

Edited by GloryPerth: 27/4/2014 02:12:34 AM

Glory are not "after" Hersi, they already signed him.

Adds further bs to the coach selection process, they already knew who their coach was and were already signing players.

Funny thing is too that WSW wouldn't meet his wage demands...but "cheap" "slash the wage bill" Tony does?

I guess logic isn't a pre-requisite at Glory...

Darije Kalezić was the third name on the shortlist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darije_Kalezi%C4%87

He's the current coach for PSV's reserve team in the Dutch 2nd tier competition.

EDIT - http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/darije-kalezic/aufeinenblick/trainer_9382.html

Got a good record at Jong PSV too

Edited by andytoddselbow: 27/4/2014 05:57:21 PM

:(

Not too disappointed not signing him reading those results. Last two positions left was via a sacking and mutual consent after two months. Rings alarm bells in my head.

The other foreigner would have been worth a look, but probably priced himself out of things. :x

I don't believe that because if he did he should never have been in a shortlist of 3. I think it's just an excuse in this charade so they can tell people "why" they chose Lowe.

As for Kalezi, currently has his current team mid-table and scoring 1.43 points per match. That half a point more than Kenny, for those results-based people here. :lol:

I'd say he's a coach that prefers the Netherlands...which funnily enough our whole football system is meant to be modelled on?

Truthfully, if someone had told me five years ago:

"Kenny Lowe was picked as the manager from day dot and everything else was just a smokescreen"


I'd have taken them to the cleaners for that argument as being stupid, ill-conceived, and evidence of someone with an axe to grind. It's a measure of how my trust in the club has been shaken that if someone told me that now then I'd actually consider it, no matter how unlikely I thought it.

What other reason is there to have a coach that's too expensive on your shortlist ?

I'd be happy if you guys went for him. He would be good for the a league.

In a twisted way I want Glory to lose and lose badly next season.

I want Sages nose to be rubbed in it.

It has gotten to a point where another year of pain would not hurt any more.

Forget losing... crowd figures regularly below 5,000 would be what would really hurt the Glory management. Sage will only acknowledge he is failing when it becomes blatant that he is driving the profitability of the club down with his decisions, not up.

Spoke to Brewer & Andy Orr at the Floreat Athena game, the issue with the overseas coaches was two-fold. The overseas applicants were mostly assistants looking for their first senior gig that were asking for $1m salaries with separate provision of accomodation and vehicle, plus undertakings for a $1m marquee spend. To me that speaks of Sage's influence over the process (I didn't ask if it was the case because no point asking questions no CEO worth their salt would ever answer).

The second component is that with 9 players turning over and the backbone of the old boys club disappearing together, they are inclined to see if Lowe can take that and do what Ange did when he took over Brisbane and changed things with his first off-season. They did seem happy with his off-field work, despite how pissed-off supporters were with the on-field product. Brewer did seem unsurprised with the vehemence of the backlash to the appointment, which can be interpreted a few ways.

Yep, is stinks of a shoddy process. I also don't believe Kenny to be the best Aussie coach around. Maybe WA but that's arguable.


On unrelated news, someone that goes to the PG NPL games often, if you could PM me that would be great. I've got some rather specific questions. Cheers!

In other words I was completely right they didn;t sort out the salaries before they went to the final few.
The same thing has happened to other clubs as well including Melbourne. Magilton was desperate because he got sacked for headbutting one of his own players and could not get a job elsewhere.

Have had about Zero interest in the A League finals, but:

Who gets to Referee the last final in Brisbane?
Does Ben Williams automatically get it, as he's considered Australia's best at present?
4 different Refs used for the 4 finals so far, or do we go outside of these to use our whole panel of Refs, and say use one who perhaps has only been 4th official so far, etc?
(You know where this is heading)

FFS, surely the selection process did not just focus of a qualitative assessment and completely forget about the quantitative $ assessment until the final three???

Surely there should have been a value for money assessment all the way through the assessment?

But, this is Glory. :lol:

Also anyone seen Aryn Williams play for Floreat? By reports seems to be going well. Not sure what position they're playing him in but he's an RB/RW so should be a squaddie at least if signed.

Thanks for posting this. Can't say I am surprised, but appreciate the info.

As to the second component, it's all very well if Kenny goes out and nails the recruiting, but if he doesn't, we'll be saddled with his signings for years to come. Esp concerned at his ability to find some decent imports. Perhaps we'll engage a consultant to do that, who'll come up with a list of players, only to have it all fall over when we realise at the last minute that all on the shortlist want 100,000 plus a week.

Well that's bullshit, the Swiss was first team manager at De Graafshap in the Eerste divisie and Eredivisie after guiding them to promotion to the top flight.

Sage is happy to continue to pay through the nose for players with reputations of quality, yet won't fork out for a quality coach that might make glory a quality outfit long after the squad is over hauled.

Edited by Rooster9: 28/4/2014 09:41:27 PM

Yeah, presumed this was the case and the 'backbone of the old boys' is certainly evaporating at a rate of knots, it seems.

And with your first point - That's actually not unreasonable reason to rule them out, even 'fair enough'. Yeah, I suppose the details/considerations over 'contract' would see Sage and co directly involved and no doubt they oversee anyway. They have final call (Though what role did Bosnich play here?! WHO did he recommend?!) and considerations over wage, especially in-light of such revelations, would certainly leave it back with the cheaper, known commodity, of Lowe - for better or worse. Sage always falls back on wage costs, despite the hypocrisy of Gallas' signing, which was 'the exception'.

Though if Arnie WAS in the mix, then I think Brewer and Sage all-but made it clear he likely would've got the job! So slight irony there, that he turned this basket-case down to take on the reigns at Jets or SFC?!

In the end though, Glory arguably need a 'Marquee coach' though, more than they need any Marquee player? But I guess it's up to whether any of the candidates were REALLY worth the valuation they placed on themselves? :-k

Edited by GloryPerth: 28/4/2014 10:37:22 PM

Is that record (If that's the extent of the Swiss guy's record? :-k ) enough to justify the wages/demands asked for though?

Makes us wonder what Gombau's wage range is - depending on his valuation. If AU can secure a coach of his calibre on a reasonable wage range (It's probably 'above average' but unlikely to be 'excessive'?) then surely Glory could've?! But if their final few 'foreign candidates' were guys they couldn't afford/bend via negotiations - then perhaps that's still their fault in a way too, as surely there were some capable/quality candidates they could afford in the wider list of 50 or so candidates, but they were excluded via the 'process'.

Or perhaps no 'Gombau-like' candidates bothered to apply? It's entirely possible, given Australia/Perth's isolation, the club's recent turmoil and likely the 'relatively cheap/tight' wage conditions lined up for the role!

I guess the saying of, 'if you pay peanuts you get monkeys' does apply a little here? :-k



Is that it?! That simple? Though excuse my ignorance, but what exactly do you mean by 'sorting the salaries'? You mean their allocated salary budget for the coaching appointment, coaching staff or some such?! :?

Edit: Oh, you mean they didn't negotiate/ask for the candidate's demands earlier? :-k

With the latter, it's perhaps logical they didn't as that eliminates potential candidates earlier - plus it's not till they've passed every other part of the process, that negotiations could get under way you figure and the details and bartering of the contract terms commence? Maybe, rightly or wrongly, the club were 'surprised' by the wage valuations from the Euro coaches camps - but if Glory's wage allocation/budget towards the coaching appointment was always tight then I guess it was, again, indeed set up to fail and the drawn out charade only delaying Lowe's confirmation.



Let's hope our peanut-fed coach can turn in one hell of a performance next season! Or, like Hotrod says, he fails badly, early enough to force another change - hopefully this next time Glory somehow stumbling onto a great coaching find, after the fumbles right through their A-League existence! ](*,)

Edited by GloryPerth: 28/4/2014 10:59:01 PM

The Bosnian/Swiss guy went to a Conference club. This is the A-League. The $1 million dollars number the club are putting out is just ridiculous. There is no logic to any of it.

If you believe that then get a season membership, they're awesome! I hope the Easter Bunny delivered you some nice choccies too.

Well if he went to a Conference Club, he probably wasn't the caliber we were hoping for?

I'd be more concerned that such a lengthy search for our next manager couldn't identify a single "proven" international option who could command the larger wage he would demand.

Fair enough... you can look at those guys and say that they weren't very well known and didn't have a lot of experience, but Gombau's experience before Adelaide was in youth coaching (admittedly at a very high level) and 1 spell in Hong Kong. Adelaide took the risk and we didn't... Adelaide will be rewarded and we won't.

The 2 final candidates alongside Lowe may've been beaten on the cost-benefit assessment... but there were 50 candidates and I think most fans would've probably taken just about any of them over a guy with only local league experience and a pretty dismal record as caretaker. And I doubt all 50 would've demanded $1mil+living costs+choice of marquee player.

Apparently Neil Young's contract as goalkeeping coach has not been renewed. He is hoping to pick up the Newcastle GK coaching job.