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Risdon and Grant both out for this weekends game. Anthony Golec, Jacob Collard, Stefan Valentini and Joseph Knowles all in the squad.


Things not getting any better. At least these young kids will get a run.



IIRC you predicted we would lose 3-0 to Sydney last week.

I think you underestimate our ability to get 10 men behind the ball and drag the other team down to our level.

How much time do you think we have devoted to defensive structures at training this week compared to creative combination play to generate scoring chances?

This game will be 0-0 or 1-0 either way (unless City's wingers get their shit together and rip Warren a new one).


I did, just because Sydney seems to win away and the Glory back 4 were very changed.

I'm thinking this will be a close loss.

I can't see Glory holding Mooy for 90 unless Thwaite is in MF, which I doubt as Grant and Risdon are out.


Would imagine Golec could be thrown into CB, considering how effective Thwaite was. Also will need a big body on Fornarolli I reckon (don't see Williams getting the job on him).

I can sort of understand at the moment Glory being more concerned with defensive structures, but really other than Adelaide most teams will eventually break you down if you sit too deep.


Are we giving City too much respect? They have been quite variable week-to-week and are highly/too reliant on Mooy performing. Their squad, like Glory's, has seen an injury crisis, especially with their defensive options too (Kisnorbo, Hughes. Franjic only just returning etc?). City struggled to break open an organised Newcastle Jets side, so that bodes well for Glory, who are also a well organised side defensively?

Thwaite as a screener, supporting the defence, may really help close the space and inter-play between Mooy, Fornaroli and the rest? Williams is highly motivated and has reasonable pedigree with o/s experience, did well last week. Golec prefers CB and has experience at ACL level ofcourse. IIRC Collard has been about the first team before too. Oxborrow and utility player Ferreira about, so it's not too bad? :-k It's more upfront again, lack of goals, where the concerns lie? Especially if City get that goal, then Glory need to change approach and push for that equaliser.

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Shanagar wrote:
My concern is that January will be far too late to save the season.
Again we look like Garcia and Sidnei have to be our strikers.
Neither are strikers, but seem unwilling to throw a youngster in to start.
What are we now, over 6 hours without a goal?
Perhaps this week it'll change, but don't know how many more goal less weeks we can keep going like this.
And I accept, for all my previous praise of Nebo, it's gone horribly wrong since FFA Cup, with everything overhit and botched, just don't know what's happened. Maybe has an injury, everyone else seems too.


Perhaps this kid? Apparently he's featured with Glory's first-team already. From that current, recently completed, Joeys Generation, performed well in their WC Qualifiers. IIRC I think he was the only West Aussie to make that squad? Here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamal_Reiners

Not placing too much expectation, but if we see more NYL players elevated to fill gaps in defence, we may see similar upfront, with the shortage of options there too.
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Wednesday, 2 December 2015 - PG News @PerthGloryFC

Perth Glory’s defensive stalwart Michael Thwaite, has praised the mix of WA youth being injected into the current squad by coach Kenny Lowe.

Glory has had a horror run of injuries of late and key players have been sidelined for several weeks, but the former captain has dismissed suggestions the mood within the camp has been down.

“We’re not deflated at all. We’ve had a lot of things go against us during the season but I think the success we’ve had with the FFA Cup and blooding young WA players has made a positive feel within the group," Thwaite said.
"I think we had three WA players come off the bench and I don’t think we’ve seen that before in Perth Glory history I think , so yeah I’m really happy the direction the club is moving in – but again we need to win games” he said.
Thwaite said he was encouraged by Coach Lowe’s attempts to blood young local talent, even though recent results hadn’t gone their way.

“In the four years I’ve been here we haven’t seen enough WA players come through and I think Kenny in breeding the NTC program he’s probably the best person to know the next generation coming through," he said.
"We already see a captain that’s from WA I’d love to see the core of the team from WA – why not! But at the end of the day it’s also about getting results.”


Tripe Michael.
The only reason the youngsters get a go now at Glory is because of injury, and even then it is a last resort because we have this mentality of playing players out of position rather than give a youngster a go.
Once others are fit, they slot straight back into the team regardless, and the youngsters are not seen again until we see them as opponents where they have been given an opportunity.
The AEdwards period saw a number of games with Edwards x2/DDS/O'Neill etc on the bench, and he has been the one and only coach in your 4 year period willing to give youngsters a go based on their ability.
And the reason he is no longer there is because he did just that, and sat the returning experienced guy on the bench and played the youngster.
And we know who thought what of that.
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I've stopped supporting Perth until I see better performances, last week was so shit I don't think I will bother with em.

Something is clearly wrong with everything at Perth. Youngsters they're bringing in will only make them look worse. Thwaite coming out saying we're going to look @ locals etc pfff, most of the good talent from Perth , from what I see ends up going to the UK. How the hell will this improve the squad ?

Risdon is good but where is he from? Jamieson was from sydney ? rofl what an extraordinarily diabolical situation


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There's no point really, Sage will never go for it. He wants his quick fix of attention each season.

The answer to Glory's woes is in their own back yard.

They need to take a long term view and stick to it. Mix youngsters with experience and stick to it.

After 2-3 seasons there will be a seasoned crop of local players not costing much, add in some experience and Glory might have a decent squad.

FFS, CCM were doing this a few years into the HAL and yet Glory haven't even figured this out even with the great youth developer of our time Kenny Lowe in charge.




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hotrod wrote:
There's no point really, Sage will never go for it. He wants his quick fix of attention each season.

The answer to Glory's woes is in their own back yard.

They need to take a long term view and stick to it. Mix youngsters with experience and stick to it.

After 2-3 seasons there will be a seasoned crop of local players not costing much, add in some experience and Glory might have a decent squad.

FFS, CCM were doing this a few years into the HAL and yet Glory haven't even figured this out even with the great youth developer of our time Kenny Lowe in charge.


Yep .

They've gone for the grab last season and now not only falling short with the salary cap breach but falling flat on their face on the other side of it


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It might need , to be a CCM/Roar situation where you clean the whole entire cupboard out and start again


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highkick05 wrote:

Risdon is good but where is he from?


He is a Bunbury boy
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perthjay85 wrote:
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Risdon is good but where is he from?


He is a Bunbury boy


Awesome stuff regional boy says great things about the state, NT Cap , more of this


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Shanagar wrote:
The AEdwards period saw a number of games with Edwards x2/DDS/O'Neill etc on the bench, and he has been the one and only coach in your 4 year period willing to give youngsters a go based on their ability.
And the reason he is no longer there is because he did just that, and sat the returning experienced guy on the bench and played the youngster.
And we know who thought what of that.

I still chuckle at the Edwards saga and the rusted-ons who derided him in defence of the club. #Nepotism etc. FMD, he wasn't perfect but he was the best coach we've had in the HAL era by a margin bigger than that by which Harold overhits his crosses. He was developing a solid young team peppered with local talent that had a clear direction *and* was getting results in the process, which is practically unheard of. Glory really shot the goose that laid the golden egg with that one, and have been paying the price ever since.
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Scoll wrote:
Shanagar wrote:
The AEdwards period saw a number of games with Edwards x2/DDS/O'Neill etc on the bench, and he has been the one and only coach in your 4 year period willing to give youngsters a go based on their ability.
And the reason he is no longer there is because he did just that, and sat the returning experienced guy on the bench and played the youngster.
And we know who thought what of that.

I still chuckle at the Edwards saga and the rusted-ons who derided him in defence of the club. #Nepotism etc. FMD, he wasn't perfect but he was the best coach we've had in the HAL era by a margin bigger than that by which Harold overhits his crosses. He was developing a solid young team peppered with local talent that had a clear direction *and* was getting results in the process, which is practically unheard of. Glory really shot the goose that laid the golden egg with that one, and have been paying the price ever since.


+1

We'd be in year 3 of the '3 year plan' by now, with a clear philosophy going forward and a squad most likely comprising of a lot more WA talent.

It's that sort of thing thats going to reignite my passion for the club, not some fluky FFA cup or finals appearance.


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Exactly.
We've only got to look at Risdon to see how this happens.
Started from scratch, and after 5 seasons, one of our best.
We could easily have had 4 or 5 in that same position forming the core of a very good team.
We know they'll move on - and Risdon is definitely in his last year here. But it's been a highlight to see his progression this far, and not everyone would leave, or some may stay more years and so on.

I've said it before, but it is an absolutely damning indictment on this club, that in it's 20th anniversary only the abovenamed may be eligible for the Loyalty provision in the salary cap for 5+ years service, and he is only 23.
That is 100% downright embarrassing to a 20 year old Club.



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I'm sure it will fixed all up come the January transfer window.

:lol:




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Glory goalkeeper Ante Covic claimed the team's defence had more holes than Swiss cheese after conceding five goals to Melbourne City.


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Scoll wrote:
Shanagar wrote:
The AEdwards period saw a number of games with Edwards x2/DDS/O'Neill etc on the bench, and he has been the one and only coach in your 4 year period willing to give youngsters a go based on their ability.
And the reason he is no longer there is because he did just that, and sat the returning experienced guy on the bench and played the youngster.
And we know who thought what of that.

I still chuckle at the Edwards saga and the rusted-ons who derided him in defence of the club. #Nepotism etc. FMD, he wasn't perfect but he was the best coach we've had in the HAL era by a margin bigger than that by which Harold overhits his crosses. He was developing a solid young team peppered with local talent that had a clear direction *and* was getting results in the process, which is practically unheard of.lo Glory really shot the goose that laid the golden egg with that one, and have been paying the price ever since.


Hi Ali,

look mate im not sure about the whole 'solid' young team getting results thing. Fair few of us didnt see that at all.

I recall me and my mates looking at a heap of 5hit senior mercenaries interwoven with a gaggle of kids that were either really poor, really average or simply not ready for that level of football.

We also recall a side that totally reflected your astonishing lack of physical preparation, your lack of technical nous and your complete inexperience as a senior coach and in the end it cost you your job and caused irreparable damage to your reputation.

Shame, because I thought you were a fantastic footballer.
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didn't he go on to coach the women, says a lot for being coach of glory nowadays

career wrecker


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anyone need Thwaite?

Victory ?


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Straight Bat wrote:
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Shanagar wrote:
The AEdwards period saw a number of games with Edwards x2/DDS/O'Neill etc on the bench, and he has been the one and only coach in your 4 year period willing to give youngsters a go based on their ability.
And the reason he is no longer there is because he did just that, and sat the returning experienced guy on the bench and played the youngster.
And we know who thought what of that.

I still chuckle at the Edwards saga and the rusted-ons who derided him in defence of the club. #Nepotism etc. FMD, he wasn't perfect but he was the best coach we've had in the HAL era by a margin bigger than that by which Harold overhits his crosses. He was developing a solid young team peppered with local talent that had a clear direction *and* was getting results in the process, which is practically unheard of.lo Glory really shot the goose that laid the golden egg with that one, and have been paying the price ever since.


Hi Ali,

look mate im not sure about the whole 'solid' young team getting results thing. Fair few of us didnt see that at all.

I recall me and my mates looking at a heap of 5hit senior mercenaries interwoven with a gaggle of kids that were either really poor, really average or simply not ready for that level of football.

We also recall a side that totally reflected your astonishing lack of physical preparation, your lack of technical nous and your complete inexperience as a senior coach and in the end it cost you your job and caused irreparable damage to your reputation.

Shame, because I thought you were a fantastic footballer.

Nice selective memory, Ian. Maybe you didn't see it through your bitter haze at getting the boot. Surely you could identify the bloc of untouchable over the hill players you left behind were frankly an unworkable product though ;)

(Frankly, I take being compared to Edwards as either a player or manager as a compliment. So cheers. I'm far better looking though.)
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Scoll wrote:
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Scoll wrote:
Shanagar wrote:
The AEdwards period saw a number of games with Edwards x2/DDS/O'Neill etc on the bench, and he has been the one and only coach in your 4 year period willing to give youngsters a go based on their ability.
And the reason he is no longer there is because he did just that, and sat the returning experienced guy on the bench and played the youngster.
And we know who thought what of that.

I still chuckle at the Edwards saga and the rusted-ons who derided him in defence of the club. #Nepotism etc. FMD, he wasn't perfect but he was the best coach we've had in the HAL era by a margin bigger than that by which Harold overhits his crosses. He was developing a solid young team peppered with local talent that had a clear direction *and* was getting results in the process, which is practically unheard of.lo Glory really shot the goose that laid the golden egg with that one, and have been paying the price ever since.


Hi Ali,

look mate im not sure about the whole 'solid' young team getting results thing. Fair few of us didnt see that at all.

I recall me and my mates looking at a heap of 5hit senior mercenaries interwoven with a gaggle of kids that were either really poor, really average or simply not ready for that level of football.

We also recall a side that totally reflected your astonishing lack of physical preparation, your lack of technical nous and your complete inexperience as a senior coach and in the end it cost you your job and caused irreparable damage to your reputation.

Shame, because I thought you were a fantastic footballer.

Nice selective memory, Ian. Maybe you didn't see it through your bitter haze at getting the boot. Surely you could identify the bloc of untouchable over the hill players you left behind were frankly an unworkable product though ;)

(Frankly, I take being compared to Edwards as either a player or manager as a compliment. So cheers. I'm far better looking though.)


I, well Ian if you will, as s hit as I am will undoutably still find a gig in football somewhere on this earth.....

You though Ali, will likely never Manage another football team again it's fair to say.

And just as when it was announced you were shown the big door - The great majority of punters will breathe a sigh of relief and think - thankfully.

You just werent very good pal (yes, worse than me !) and the truth can be a very bitter pill at times.

Sorry....


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So should we be expecting any change to the style and tactics of the team this week? Or are injuries still too big to allow for an effective and entertaining game plan?

Depth was always going to be an issue this season, we just don't have any!
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sokorny wrote:
So should we be expecting any change to the style and tactics of the team this week? Or are injuries still too big to allow for an effective and entertaining game plan?

Depth was always going to be an issue this season, we just don't have any!


The Glory defence is going to look like a primary school outing with kids sitting in a parked bus.




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hotrod wrote:
sokorny wrote:
So should we be expecting any change to the style and tactics of the team this week? Or are injuries still too big to allow for an effective and entertaining game plan?

Depth was always going to be an issue this season, we just don't have any!


The Glory defence is going to look like a primary school outing with kids sitting in a parked bus.


Yeah we've been pretty unwatchable this season ... don't think the club phsyio/doctor/conditioner will be getting a Christmas bonus this season.
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Just a quick question with all the up roar that has been happening lately.

Does hatamoto operate at Perth games? I swear I have never seen them.
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Does Lowe's contact end after this season?
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Iridium1010 wrote:
Does Lowe's contact end after this season?


He signed his contract extension before all this salary cap crap went down.

Clever bastard.

He's signed until the end of the 2016/17 season.

woo hoo.




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damonzzzz wrote:
Just a quick question with all the up roar that has been happening lately.

Does hatamoto operate at Perth games? I swear I have never seen them.


Wouldn't be doing a very good job if you did see them I suppose. I'd imagine they'd be involved with the Shed, and others in and around the ground. Considering the lack of issues Glory have had over 20 years we probably aren't a high priority.

How many on that banned list were from the Glory fanbase?
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sokorny wrote:
damonzzzz wrote:
Just a quick question with all the up roar that has been happening lately.

Does hatamoto operate at Perth games? I swear I have never seen them.


Wouldn't be doing a very good job if you did see them I suppose. I'd imagine they'd be involved with the Shed, and others in and around the ground. Considering the lack of issues Glory have had over 20 years we probably aren't a high priority.

How many on that banned list were from the Glory fanbase?


I browsed it before it went behind the pay wall. From memory, was about half a dozen and no more than 10.

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hotrod wrote:
Iridium1010 wrote:
Does Lowe's contact end after this season?


He signed his contract extension before all this salary cap crap went down.

Clever bastard.

He's signed until the end of the 2016/17 season.

woo hoo.


ugh, ty
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biscuitman1871 wrote:
sokorny wrote:
damonzzzz wrote:
Just a quick question with all the up roar that has been happening lately.

Does hatamoto operate at Perth games? I swear I have never seen them.


Wouldn't be doing a very good job if you did see them I suppose. I'd imagine they'd be involved with the Shed, and others in and around the ground. Considering the lack of issues Glory have had over 20 years we probably aren't a high priority.

How many on that banned list were from the Glory fanbase?


I browsed it before it went behind the pay wall. From memory, was about half a dozen and no more than 10.


So about 0.1 to 0.2% of an average Glory crowd.




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(... the number may stay the same, but I figure that % will increase each week ...),

... but why has kick-off for this weekend not been changed yet and let everyone know.
Still 40 degrees forecast.
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