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sydneycroatia58 wrote:Heineken wrote:I think looking at the average crowds for the 2009 NSWPL season was about 500-1k depending on whose playing.
Teams like Manly United and (then Wollongong Community Football club, now South Coast United) got regualar crowds of approx. 500, although Sydney United and Olympic, Marconi, Bonnyrigg always used to pull a decent crowd.
A westie would say it's down to West Sydney being the epicenter of football in this country, but i'd put a tenner on the fact that the "ethnics" who currently root for Olympic and United, and all those Ethnic based teams won't suddenly jump up and start supporting rovers. Well if Rovers go out and show these 'ethnics' that they are a club for the community like they will then they will get the old NSL supporters on board. Yeah, but i can't see all the Croats, Serbs, Greeks, Macedonians, etc etc etc etc etc who live out ------> that way all suddenly coming together and Uniting under the one team, with a cup of tea, and a quick sorry and pat on the back.
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Heineken wrote:sydneycroatia58 wrote:Heineken wrote:I think looking at the average crowds for the 2009 NSWPL season was about 500-1k depending on whose playing.
Teams like Manly United and (then Wollongong Community Football club, now South Coast United) got regualar crowds of approx. 500, although Sydney United and Olympic, Marconi, Bonnyrigg always used to pull a decent crowd.
A westie would say it's down to West Sydney being the epicenter of football in this country, but i'd put a tenner on the fact that the "ethnics" who currently root for Olympic and United, and all those Ethnic based teams won't suddenly jump up and start supporting rovers. Well if Rovers go out and show these 'ethnics' that they are a club for the community like they will then they will get the old NSL supporters on board. Yeah, but i can't see all the Croats, Serbs, Greeks, Macedonians, etc etc etc etc etc who live out ------> that way all suddenly coming together and Uniting under the one team, with a cup of tea, and a quick sorry and pat on the back. sure not all will, but some will.
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its the new generation of these peoples who have come together.
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this is how i think the ladder will look at the end of the season 1. manly 2. sutherland 3. bonnyrigg 4. sydney united 5. blacktown 6. sydney olympic 7. marconi 8. bankstown 9. APIA 10. west sydney 11. south coast 12. rockdale
winner of tiger turf cup: final will be bonnyrigg vs olympic. olympic to win it
rockdale to get relegated, with Parramatta Melita geting promoted
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f1dave wrote: And you'll get to have some great curry and chips, or polish sausage, or a kebab, plus some full strength beer- all at a great price!
I like my state league games. You buy stuff from there, you know you're helping your club... I just wish the same was true of the A-League :(
I agree to a point. I do go to the occassional state league top of the table game too and I do enjoy my 2 souvlakis and a few cold beers while I'm there. But you are talking to the converted and I think I'm also talking to the converted by the sound of it. What about the uncorverted though? How is this game going to attract new fans to the state leagues while the overwhelming impression out there among the existing A-League followers is that state league soccer, after 5 years of the A-League revolution, is still mono-ethnic club soccer? How are we going to entice them to come to the games? By tempting them with tasty souvlaki, great polish sausage, kebabs and hot chips? How is it ok for me or anybody else like me to express delight at the pleasure I get out of the spicy snacks and cold drinks I enjoy at state league games when I know deep inside that the reason there's only 200 people at the game is because fans of a nationality other than that of the club I follow feel excluded and won't come? I look around me mate, I see the same old faces I have been seing all my life at these sort of games, people of the same nationality as me and my state league team and I feel sad this type of mono-ethnic soccer is still promoted in 2009 like it's a good thing for our game and its future. And then we'll turn around again in a few weeks time and blame everybody else for the shambles the state leagues are in except the real culprit. It's really sad.
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mltezr wrote:Heineken wrote:sydneycroatia58 wrote:Heineken wrote:I think looking at the average crowds for the 2009 NSWPL season was about 500-1k depending on whose playing.
Teams like Manly United and (then Wollongong Community Football club, now South Coast United) got regualar crowds of approx. 500, although Sydney United and Olympic, Marconi, Bonnyrigg always used to pull a decent crowd.
A westie would say it's down to West Sydney being the epicenter of football in this country, but i'd put a tenner on the fact that the "ethnics" who currently root for Olympic and United, and all those Ethnic based teams won't suddenly jump up and start supporting rovers. Well if Rovers go out and show these 'ethnics' that they are a club for the community like they will then they will get the old NSL supporters on board. Yeah, but i can't see all the Croats, Serbs, Greeks, Macedonians, etc etc etc etc etc who live out ------> that way all suddenly coming together and Uniting under the one team, with a cup of tea, and a quick sorry and pat on the back. sure not all will, but some will. Most Croats and Serbs get along anyway most went to school together it's just the minority that think they have to hate each other because of their nationalities and therefore everyone thinks us Croats and Serbs all hate each other.
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ton.of.bricks wrote:f1dave wrote: And you'll get to have some great curry and chips, or polish sausage, or a kebab, plus some full strength beer- all at a great price!
I like my state league games. You buy stuff from there, you know you're helping your club... I just wish the same was true of the A-League :(
I agree to a point. I do go to the occassional state league top of the table game too and I do enjoy my 2 souvlakis and a few cold beers while I'm there. But you are talking to the converted and I think I'm also talking to the converted by the sound of it. What about the uncorverted though? How is this game going to attract new fans to the state leagues while the overwhelming impression out there among the existing A-League followers is that state league soccer, after 5 years of the A-League revolution, is still mono-ethnic club soccer? How are we going to entice them to come to the games? By tempting them with tasty souvlaki, great polish sausage, kebabs and hot chips? How is it ok for me or anybody else like me to express delight at the pleasure I get out of the spicy snacks and cold drinks I enjoy at state league games when I know deep inside that the reason there's only 200 people at the game is because fans of a nationality other than that of the club I follow feel excluded and won't come? I look around me mate, I see the same old faces I have been seing all my life at these sort of games, people of the same nationality as me and my state league team and I feel sad this type of mono-ethnic soccer is still promoted in 2009 like it's a good thing for our game and its future. And then we'll turn around again in a few weeks time and blame everybody else for the shambles the state leagues are in except the real culprit. It's really sad. TBH, I just think that people don't go to the state leagues because it's not 'the best'. For the same reason many aussies don't go to the A-League because it's not the EPL. I took some mates down to an ECU match or two, and they liked their chips and gravy and whatnot, but at the end of the day they didn't come back because "it's shit". Now, I don't agree with that, but then again I'm a lover of the game no matter what level. I'd watch (and will watch, soon enough) Conference matches in the UK if they were on near me. State leagues suffer the same affliction that the WAFL, the Skywest Basketball League, and the WACA Grade Cricket League suffer over here. As far as I'm concerned (in WA anyway) it's not mono-ethnic cultures that are keeping people away from the 2nd tier matches... it's the fact that they're second tier matches! WACA attendance for the Aussies v South Africa in a one-dayer? ~20,000 people. WACA attendance for WA vs Victoria in a one-dayer? ~2,000 if you're lucky WACA Smokefree League attendance? Maybe 50 plus some officials?
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:mltezr wrote:Heineken wrote:sydneycroatia58 wrote:Heineken wrote:I think looking at the average crowds for the 2009 NSWPL season was about 500-1k depending on whose playing.
Teams like Manly United and (then Wollongong Community Football club, now South Coast United) got regualar crowds of approx. 500, although Sydney United and Olympic, Marconi, Bonnyrigg always used to pull a decent crowd.
A westie would say it's down to West Sydney being the epicenter of football in this country, but i'd put a tenner on the fact that the "ethnics" who currently root for Olympic and United, and all those Ethnic based teams won't suddenly jump up and start supporting rovers. Well if Rovers go out and show these 'ethnics' that they are a club for the community like they will then they will get the old NSL supporters on board. Yeah, but i can't see all the Croats, Serbs, Greeks, Macedonians, etc etc etc etc etc who live out ------> that way all suddenly coming together and Uniting under the one team, with a cup of tea, and a quick sorry and pat on the back. sure not all will, but some will. Most Croats and Serbs get along anyway most went to school together it's just the minority that think they have to hate each other because of their nationalities and therefore everyone thinks us Croats and Serbs all hate each other. Well :-k...they do say a photo says a thousand words...    I'm not trying to shitstir, but it'd be awful if state league football once more turned into scenes like the old NSL...:?
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That's only a minority though. Most of the oldies get along go too the club together. Most of the young ones get along it's just the small group that think they are fucking heroes and have to hate each other. The two countries get along now aswell.
Plus that doesn't happen in the state league because the two sets of fans are locked out because the NSW Police and Football NSW want too seem like they are being safe when it's just stupid.
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Heineken wrote:sydneycroatia58 wrote:mltezr wrote:Heineken wrote:sydneycroatia58 wrote:Heineken wrote:I think looking at the average crowds for the 2009 NSWPL season was about 500-1k depending on whose playing.
Teams like Manly United and (then Wollongong Community Football club, now South Coast United) got regualar crowds of approx. 500, although Sydney United and Olympic, Marconi, Bonnyrigg always used to pull a decent crowd.
A westie would say it's down to West Sydney being the epicenter of football in this country, but i'd put a tenner on the fact that the "ethnics" who currently root for Olympic and United, and all those Ethnic based teams won't suddenly jump up and start supporting rovers. Well if Rovers go out and show these 'ethnics' that they are a club for the community like they will then they will get the old NSL supporters on board. Yeah, but i can't see all the Croats, Serbs, Greeks, Macedonians, etc etc etc etc etc who live out ------> that way all suddenly coming together and Uniting under the one team, with a cup of tea, and a quick sorry and pat on the back. sure not all will, but some will. Most Croats and Serbs get along anyway most went to school together it's just the minority that think they have to hate each other because of their nationalities and therefore everyone thinks us Croats and Serbs all hate each other. Well :-k...they do say a photo says a thousand words...    I'm not trying to shitstir, but it'd be awful if state league football once more turned into scenes like the old NSL...:? Is that were the kicked in the chest video came from?
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PAOKTZI wrote:ForestMan, big crowds when you have no media whatsoever is anything over 2000 people.
When interent sites, newspapers television the governing body no one promotes the game under the a-league a crowd of over 2000 is massive!
So when teams like wollongong & Olympic reach crowds over that with no media imagine what they can do with it?
Should au.fourfourtwo.com not be doing match reports and match previews on the NSW Premier league its the second biggest competition in the country i thought that is what a website liek this is for? Promoting and talking about the game? correct me if im wrong wollongong only got 150-200 to there home games last year
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f1dave wrote:PAOKTZI wrote: But lats year olympic had from 500 - 1800 so your figures arent exactly right.
Yeah, but he was talking about the average crowd. Olympic aren't really your run-of-the-mill state league team. There'll be shitty teams with shitty crowds to balance them out. sutho averaged 800-1000 per home game
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Heineken wrote:Well :-k...they do say a photo says a thousand words...    I'm not trying to shitstir, but it'd be awful if state league football once more turned into scenes like the old NSL...:? Correct me if I am wrong but they look like the fights from the tennis a couple of years back..... Team Hosted Average Highest Lowest Total Sydney Olympic FC 12 859 1,763 350 10,313
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love your photos unfortunately their not from football matches.
Massive propaganda buddy
comp is looking good
Milicic coach of sydney united
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Heineken what dodgey evidence you show. You may as well show the Cronulla riots and say that all Aussies hate "wogs" and whenever they are in the vicinity of eachother there is violence.
Carry on about the NSWPL rather than these tired old arguments about nothing.
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PAOKTZI wrote: Milicic coach of sydney united
nope. its zdrilic. he was just appointed. not suprising really. http://www.footballnsw.com/index.php?id=17&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=3180&tx_ttnews[backPid]=389&cHash=1abfd5e5b8 also interesting to note his player/manager. nothing new with the NSWPL but juts curious to see how he goes. Edited by mltezr: 4/12/2009 01:19:07 PM
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yes yes my error
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Milicic is now one of the Melb Heart assistant coaches.
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PAOKTZI
make sure u let me noe exactly what date the OLympic V united game is on yee ill be there for sure :D been following united for 14 years, since i was 2 :)
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ITS round two buddy going to be a massive derby!!!
over 5000 expect olympic has their shit in order now and were talking to united all the time to make things work for both clubs as we are giants of the game in this country and deserve better treatment than were getting.
Olympic now has an official supportters group that will rival the cove and were calling all our old supportters back and "THE REVOLUTION" is on Olympic is back
Spread the word sydney united its time to wake up yoru old supportters now!!!
Round two going to be a massive crowd well see what fourfourtwo does for the game?
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PAOKTZI wrote:ITS round two buddy going to be a massive derby!!!
over 5000 expect olympic has their shit in order now and were talking to united all the time to make things work for both clubs as we are giants of the game in this country and deserve better treatment than were getting.
Olympic now has an official supportters group that will rival the cove and were calling all our old supportters back and "THE REVOLUTION" is on Olympic is back
Spread the word sydney united its time to wake up yoru old supportters now!!!
Round two going to be a massive crowd well see what fourfourtwo does for the game? haha we going to have to hear TOB saying it was a shit game shit quality who cares, and most of his 442 counterparts, but u and me and about 6000 other ppl noe it is one of australias only true footbal derbies :D cant wait and dont hold your breath about 442, there most probly wont even get a mention
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fourfourtwo australia's racist soccer website!
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PAOKTZI wrote:fourfourtwo australia's racist soccer website! Now you're just being a dickhead. Bye.
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Kevin Airs wrote:PAOKTZI wrote:fourfourtwo australia's racist soccer website! Now you're just being a dickhead. Bye. kevin didnt have to go that far but a big LOL at PAOKTZI :L
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Kevin Airs wrote:PAOKTZI wrote:fourfourtwo australia's racist soccer website! Now you're just being a dickhead. Bye. lol:lol: =d> :lol: =d> you gave him enough chances
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SydneyUnited wrote:Kevin Airs wrote:PAOKTZI wrote:fourfourtwo australia's racist soccer website! Now you're just being a dickhead. Bye. kevin didnt have to go that far but a big LOL at PAOKTZI :L kevin just said what alot of people were thinking=;
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He just worked himself up for no good reason. I get that the NSWPL holds are real significants to many including mysels but it is not the be all and end all of Australian Football.
Lets hope they and SMFC make it to the Be league.
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http://www.footballnsw.com.au/index.php?id=17&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=3188&tx_ttnews[backPid]=389&cHash=65d83893f4 GET READY FOR MASSIVE CROWDS FROM BONNYRIGG THIS YEAR
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THE OFFICIAL SYDNEY OLYMPIC YOU TUBE CHANNEL http://www.youtube.com/sydneyolympic1957
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PAOKTZI wrote:http://www.footballnsw.com.au/index.php?id=17&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=3188&tx_ttnews[backPid]=389&cHash=65d83893f4
GET READY FOR MASSIVE CROWDS FROM BONNYRIGG THIS YEAR Hey mate, couple of points... When you've got long URLs like that, they won't display properly on here because of the square brackets. Instead, take them to www.tinyurl.com, paste them in the text box, click "Make Tiny URL" and he presto, you end up with: http://tinyurl.com/yzw9zg4Which links to the story just fine. Also, try not to 'speak' all in caps...
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