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socceroossupporter wrote:
Che_loco wrote:

I don't disagree the Aussie fighting spirit will always give us that little extra edge - but you can't forget who our opponents are.... Germany has built its World Cup reputation on its fighting spirit & they've won the world cup three times etc etc... Can we match them, I believe we can, but our attacking build up from midfield to attackers - our fire power is a concern.


Oh, poo to the Germans.


Oh yeah, we are playing Joga Bonito and fear no-one, not even multiple World Cup Winners.
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socceroossupporter wrote:
stefcep wrote:
The midfield pairing of Grella and Culina hasn't worked in the last two games. Grella is a liability, and Culina should be at RB, swapping with Wilko in the middle (with Jedinak there as well). With Emerton on the right, Culina overlapping with his speed, thats a very quick right side to play on the counter. And Wilko is far more positive in the middle than Culina's sideways and backwards passes.


Every time I see that stupid tongue flapping around in your avatar, I know I'm in for an unnecessarily negative, also crappy, post.


Just focus on the good points about the socceroos and leave the bad points for Pim to sort out. There's basically nothing we can do as supporters when it comes to their mistakes.



There are some of us who actually are not so blinded by patriotism as you, and actually have the capacity to judge what is happening on the field.

You're blind to the point that you can't see that Grella's tackling makes him a liability. I posted the above before bloggers like Jesse Fink on TWG did the same, and if you read the comments there, you'll see the OVERWHELMING majority agree.

Unlike you MANY, MANY people see how positive the midfield is with Culina not there, and how he adds more to the momentum by playing out wide.



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You should just be happy with the teams win.


Fuck off. This a football forum, where people can say what would, could and should happen. Thats what real football supporters do the world over. Not to have half-arsed dimwits like you tell people what they should and shouldn't do.


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God another attack on the Socceroo's from stefcep,
You would seriously have to be next to Heineken the biggest ignoramus on this thread. Your stupidity knows no bounds, your Ghana bum boys were thrashed by the Dutch and Serbia will possibly cop similar treatment from the Pols. All our opposition is on a hiding to nothing as are you ya fool we are not!!


Have you EVER said anything that didn't sound like it came out of your mother arse?
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AIDS wrote:
We will have to wait and see what will happen against the Yanks. BTW does anyone know how their training camp went? I saw on Eurosport they only arrived the other day, did they (USA) do any altitude work or play an earlier friendly?


Their camp has been based on the East Coast of the US, and they played the Czech Republic (lost 4-2) and Guus Hiddink's Turkey (won 2-1). Not sure how much altitude training they have done.
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We have to remember that this side isnt playing to its capacity,

It hasn't in four years.
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Wilkshire needs to play the overlap more effectively, because his crosses are lethal, but they're going in too early.

Holman didn't play that well, Nico. His performance was acceptable in an australian side that was more interested in waht they were having for dinner. An acceptable performance but nothing more. I want to see how he does against the US.


Holman didnt play well??? mate were you watching the game last night??? he was one of our best for us in that game, hes combination work with Kennedy was good!!! in fact it was one of his best games to date!!! ](*,)

He has played better. He made one or two good plays in a game where there weren't many. The game made his performance look better than if we'd played well. There was no drive or desire from the players and Holman looked better for his acceptable performance.
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We will have to wait and see what will happen against the Yanks. BTW does anyone know how their training camp went? I saw on Eurosport they only arrived the other day, did they (USA) do any altitude work or play an earlier friendly?
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Che_loco wrote:

I don't disagree the Aussie fighting spirit will always give us that little extra edge - but you can't forget who our opponents are.... Germany has built its World Cup reputation on its fighting spirit & they've won the world cup three times etc etc... Can we match them, I believe we can, but our attacking build up from midfield to attackers - our fire power is a concern.


Oh, poo to the Germans.
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socceroossupporter wrote:
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OH Please....... lets face some unsavory truths here!!

1) It was a training(warm up)game
2) More pointedly, Where is the Australian cohesion in attack & midfield? We can not progress to the 2nd round on defense alone....
3) Where is the Aussie imagination & combinations in midfield - we gave up the ball to often and to easily.
4) Where is our ATTACK.....?

Agreeded credit due & deserved for the Aussie defense, but guys Im really concerned about the LACK of cohesion (ideas)in the attacking third. We are at the world cup now, it isn't the qualifiers anymore......

In my opinion (2 cents worth) Australia need a much improved midfield/attacking combination. No one can say (if they watched last nights game) that it was a convincing exhibition by the socceroo's - yes our defense performed well. But with only one more warm up before our German encounter, yes I am starting to get very concerned as a Socceroo supporter!

If we don't find an attacking combination by "Yesterday" I predict we are going to get mauled by the Germans!!!


1) It was a training game for Australia also and we still beat the team that finished above Portugal in their group.
2) Our formation and game plan is based around our defense. Get used to it. Emerton and Kewell coming back into the side can only make us stronger in offense and midfield.
3) As the game progressed, I thought we really started finding our touch and were much more precise. It can only get better from here.
4) Our attack came via the head and foot of Kennedy. You know, in case you didn't notice, the scoreline read 1-0 when the final whistle was blown.

The Germans will quite frankly be extremely surprised by our fighting spirit and I predict a massive upset. At worst a draw. We'll be ready for them. It'll be the Rats of Tobruk all over again. The Germans will underestimate us.


Yes its a given we won 1-0..........

I think you missed the point of my concerns, Kewell has played only 5 mins in how many months? Emo is in similar circumstances.

The goal Kennedy scored (although every goal is always welcome) came from a freak bounce of the ball (more luck) than actual build up and here lies my concern... Oh before you say it yes luck is always involved in scoring goals - my point is we dodn't create enough real chances where that luck could comes into play.

I don't disagree the Aussie fighting spirit will always give us that little extra edge - but you can't forget who our opponents are.... Germany has built its World Cup reputation on its fighting spirit & they've won the world cup three times etc etc... Can we match them, I believe we can, but our attacking build up from midfield to attackers - our fire power is a concern.



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socceroossupporter wrote:
The Germans will quite frankly be extremely surprised by our fighting spirit and I predict a massive upset. At worst a draw. We'll be ready for them. It'll be the Rats of Tobruk all over again. The Germans will underestimate us.


...and Germans love eating sausages. Surprise, surprise !

You shouldn't write important secrets in open forums. Not that Löw is reading this thread at the moment.



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Excellent =)
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InnerWestie wrote:
2010 World Cup Final, Australia Vs Spain: The Aussies put in yet another substandard performance, in a worrying sign for the socceroos. Apart from winning 2-0, the Aussies were unconvincing and will need to conjure up some attacking flair if they are to be any chance of holding their world cup crown. Verbeek's reign will be remembered for an unrelenting focus on results, perhaps at the expense of the good of the game in this country.


=d> =d> =d> =d>

Nice work mate.
It's so true that it's sad to find it as amusing as i did.
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Inner Westie, the below is the best dig at the obviously first generation probably english descendent (whinging bastards) pretend Aussie supporters on this forum... Well done!

"2010 World Cup Final, Australia Vs Spain: The Aussies put in yet another substandard performance, in a worrying sign for the socceroos. Apart from winning 2-0, the Aussies were unconvincing and will need to conjure up some attacking flair if they are to be any chance of holding their world cup crown. Verbeek's reign will be remembered for an unrelenting focus on results, perhaps at the expense of the good of the game in this country."
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Che_loco wrote:
OH Please....... lets face some unsavory truths here!!

1) It was a training(warm up)game
2) More pointedly, Where is the Australian cohesion in attack & midfield? We can not progress to the 2nd round on defense alone....
3) Where is the Aussie imagination & combinations in midfield - we gave up the ball to often and to easily.
4) Where is our ATTACK.....?

Agreeded credit due & deserved for the Aussie defense, but guys Im really concerned about the LACK of cohesion (ideas)in the attacking third. We are at the world cup now, it isn't the qualifiers anymore......

In my opinion (2 cents worth) Australia need a much improved midfield/attacking combination. No one can say (if they watched last nights game) that it was a convincing exhibition by the socceroo's - yes our defense performed well. But with only one more warm up before our German encounter, yes I am starting to get very concerned as a Socceroo supporter!

If we don't find an attacking combination by "Yesterday" I predict we are going to get mauled by the Germans!!!


1) It was a training game for Australia also and we still beat the team that finished above Portugal in their group.
2) Our formation and game plan is based around our defense. Get used to it. Emerton and Kewell coming back into the side can only make us stronger in offense and midfield.
3) As the game progressed, I thought we really started finding our touch and were much more precise. It can only get better from here.
4) Our attack came via the head and foot of Kennedy. You know, in case you didn't notice, the scoreline read 1-0 when the final whistle was blown.

The Germans will quite frankly be extremely surprised by our fighting spirit and I predict a massive upset. At worst a draw. We'll be ready for them. It'll be the Rats of Tobruk all over again. The Germans will underestimate us.
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stefcep wrote:
The midfield pairing of Grella and Culina hasn't worked in the last two games. Grella is a liability, and Culina should be at RB, swapping with Wilko in the middle (with Jedinak there as well). With Emerton on the right, Culina overlapping with his speed, thats a very quick right side to play on the counter. And Wilko is far more positive in the middle than Culina's sideways and backwards passes.


Every time I see that stupid tongue flapping around in your avatar, I know I'm in for an unnecessarily negative, also crappy, post.



Just focus on the good points about the socceroos and leave the bad points for Pim to sort out. There's basically nothing we can do as supporters when it comes to their mistakes. You should just be happy with the teams win.
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afromanGT wrote:
Wilkshire needs to play the overlap more effectively, because his crosses are lethal, but they're going in too early.

Holman didn't play that well, Nico. His performance was acceptable in an australian side that was more interested in waht they were having for dinner. An acceptable performance but nothing more. I want to see how he does against the US.


Holman didnt play well??? mate were you watching the game last night??? he was one of our best for us in that game, hes combination work with Kennedy was good!!! in fact it was one of his best games to date!!! ](*,)
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Nico wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
Our passing wasn't cohesive at all and we really should have hit denmark on the counter several times.


This should come all come in time. We only got there a few days ago. The US match is a lot more crucial to see the way we play. The boys should really be ready and you'd expect them to play that very near to how we play Germany.


We have to remember that this side isnt playing to its capacity, what Pim said earlier in the week that this team was playing 80% or 90% to its potential, so by saturday this team should playing 100% of its potential!!! Lets hope so!!! [-o<
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I must say Brett Holmans performance was impressive,like he didnt turn the ball over, linked beautifully with Kennedy, and to all HOLMAN HATERS OUT THERE, FUCK YOU AND LEAVE HIM ALONE!!!
Overall the aussies performance was a definate improvement from the New Zealand game, at least defensively we looked alot better, in truth the Danes didnt create any chances at all in the whole match, SO BOYS KEEP IT UP!!!
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Tyson_85 wrote:
InnerWestie wrote:
2010 World Cup Final, Australia Vs Spain: The Aussies put in yet another substandard performance, in a worrying sign for the socceroos. Apart from winning 2-0, the Aussies were unconvincing and will need to conjure up some attacking flair if they are to be any chance of holding their world cup crown. Verbeek's reign will be remembered for an unrelenting focus on results, perhaps at the expense of the good of the game in this country.


ummm #-o

He is just pointing out Australian tendancies to cut down tall poppies, I thought it was pretty funny ;)

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Edited because Tyson should read before he writes. :oops:

Edited by Tyson_85: 2/6/2010 11:35:56 AM
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Che_loco wrote:
We can not progress to the 2nd round on defense alone....


To be fair, Italy won the last world cup on defense and diving alone.
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John 3:16 wrote:
What's with all this "holman haters" talk? Hasn't he been judged on each of his performances, and now he has produced a good one he gets the praise it deserves? If anyone in the national team were to regularly trip over the ball or pass to the ballboys then they would get criticism. It just was Holman did that more often than others. Pim obviously knew he could do better and continued to show faith, where many others hadn't seen the evidence to support this view. I'm glad he is performing well coming into the cup as he was always going to be part of Pim's plan.


Correct!
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InnerWestie wrote:
2010 World Cup Final, Australia Vs Spain: The Aussies put in yet another substandard performance, in a worrying sign for the socceroos. Apart from winning 2-0, the Aussies were unconvincing and will need to conjure up some attacking flair if they are to be any chance of holding their world cup crown. Verbeek's reign will be remembered for an unrelenting focus on results, perhaps at the expense of the good of the game in this country.


=d>
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Mr wrote:
Grella is a liability at this point. He'll be suspended before the third match if he keeps it up. Scarily reminds me of Muscat.


Grella wishes he was as good as Muscat at getting away with dodgy fouls.
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Vaughn2111 wrote:
Interesting to see Culina move out to the right/left flanks after half time with Bresc coming in the middle to dictate a bit more, variation on our stereotypical playing style- seemed to work alright.


Yep, this is the sort of thing we should be seeing within the game. It doesnt have to happen by way of substitution but for 5 mins here and there to change things up from our normal play. We have many players who are interchageable and should be using it to our advantage. Chippers being able to have short spells forward wouldnt hurt at all.
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A few more observations;

One clearance from the Danish keeper went straight through to Schwarzer - same thing happened in Kunming. Could be an opportunity for Rukavytsa if he can beat the trap whilst playing high.

Wilkshire was our best on park last night.

Grella is a liability at this point. He'll be suspended before the third match if he keeps it up. Scarily reminds me of Muscat.

Bosnich had a Panini sticker book open in front of him.





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I wonder if any of the people claiming JK can only head goals have ever watched him play at club level. Not only does he regularly score with his feet, but he scores with both of them.
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stefcep wrote:
Substance wrote:


schwarzer looked a bit average tonight


he's not as good as people think.


Blasphemy!

He did look unsteady at times though. He'll be right.
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Points of interest from my perspective:

- The pitch was fricken horrible. Looked nice as carpet but fell apart like wet newspaper.
- The lack of intensity from both sides was clear, so i wouldn't read too much into this match. Still a good hit out.
- Wilkshire is quality.
- Moore might be getting old, but the quality is still there.
- Vinnie wasn't brilliant but he did a job and deserves more credit than he's being given in this thread.
- Edit (how could i forget!): Holman came on, and all of a sudden we started linking out of midfield into attack. This was pleasing to me.
- Those horns were quite the annoyance.
- We seemed to get exposed by pace on the flanks.
- Our throw-ins... Was it just me or were we turning over posession nearly every time we had a throw-in??

Cheers.

Edited by eskimo: 2/6/2010 10:15:14 AM
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OH Please....... lets face some unsavory truths here!!

1) It was a training(warm up)game
2) More pointedly, Where is the Australian cohesion in attack & midfield? We can not progress to the 2nd round on defense alone....
3) Where is the Aussie imagination & combinations in midfield - we gave up the ball to often and to easily.
4) Where is our ATTACK.....?

Agreeded credit due & deserved for the Aussie defense, but guys Im really concerned about the LACK of cohesion (ideas)in the attacking third. We are at the world cup now, it isn't the qualifiers anymore......

In my opinion (2 cents worth) Australia need a much improved midfield/attacking combination. No one can say (if they watched last nights game) that it was a convincing exhibition by the socceroo's - yes our defense performed well. But with only one more warm up before our German encounter, yes I am starting to get very concerned as a Socceroo supporter!

If we don't find an attacking combination by "Yesterday" I predict we are going to get mauled by the Germans!!!
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2010 World Cup Final, Australia Vs Spain: The Aussies put in yet another substandard performance, in a worrying sign for the socceroos. Apart from winning 2-0, the Aussies were unconvincing and will need to conjure up some attacking flair if they are to be any chance of holding their world cup crown. Verbeek's reign will be remembered for an unrelenting focus on results, perhaps at the expense of the good of the game in this country.
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