Pim Verbeek Out - Before he fucks up any chance we have of progressing


Pim Verbeek Out - Before he fucks up any chance we have of progressing...

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Okay, so this might seem like an extreme reaction to a single hammering, but let's look at the facts.

- He had one plan - defend like crazy with slow players and a high line against one of the fastest teams at the cup. That plan wasn't ever going to work, and he switched to just having no plan after we went down.
- Starting lineup was utterly dire, yet startlingly predictable. We may not have much to work with in the squad - but we have more than Pim put out. The Holman substitution was the only positive move in the whole match.
- Has Pim been just telling the lads not to press or attack in any way? We weren't even pressing or attacking the ball, we were just bending over and spreading the cheeks, Greece-vs-South Korea-style. Sucking all the life and energy out of a group that's so passionate is a hard job, but Pim has apparently managed it in a few short weeks.
- He seems to have no idea what the problems with his team and his tactics are, he's just a limp fucking noodle, 'oh they were better than us' yeah, thanks, we saw. What are you doing about it and how did you prepare for it? By doing fucking nothing, that's what.

I don't care who you put in for the remaining two games but I'm absolutely sure even Arnie would instil a bit of fight and mongrel in the boys and at least not get fucking annihilated.

We need to at least show some fight or we'll end up being the 09/10 Brisbane Roar of the World Cup. And nobody wants that. So I think the solution is clear - get rid of the guy with no idea, because even bad ideas are better than none. They'd at least be unpredictable...
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Why don't we burn the Ashes..... FFS it's Germany,not New Zealand!!!
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Jazzmaster wrote:
Why don't we burn the Ashes..... FFS it's Germany,not New Zealand!!!


fair enough. but he practically played a 4-6-0.

why does he have strikers in the team if he never picks them. why is too defensive. why is moore playing. why why why.

hes got no clue and no idea what is going.
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I don't give a fuck about losing a match like this. It's the complete lack of drive, attacking and passion that irks me. We were always going to be outclassed but we should never have been outfought or outworked. We've lost everything under this prat that was a positive aspect in our football.
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scouse_roar wrote:


I don't care who you put in for the remaining two games but I'm absolutely sure even Arnie would instil a bit of fight and mongrel in the boys and at least not get fucking annihilated.


I don't care much for this line... unless you meant Arnold Schwarzenegger :P


We showed glimpses throughout the game up until we got royally screwed by going down to 10 men. It's hard do anything when half your team tired out.

If the USA game didnt wake the australians up, this will have but hey at least the next two games aren't germany and germany :P
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scouse_roar wrote:
I don't give a fuck about losing a match like this. It's the complete lack of drive, attacking and passion that irks me. We were always going to be outclassed but we should never have been outfought or outworked. We've lost everything under this prat that was a positive aspect in our football.



This. Good post mate.
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pim's sacking announced tonight, arnold takes over for the rest of the world cup, we fuck up even more
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jmars wrote:
scouse_roar wrote:
I don't give a fuck about losing a match like this. It's the complete lack of drive, attacking and passion that irks me. We were always going to be outclassed but we should never have been outfought or outworked. We've lost everything under this prat that was a positive aspect in our football.



This. Good post mate.


+1.

If i hear one of those starting 11 say anything about the pride of pulling on a national jersey, a dream they've had since they were child, such an honor etc etc etc i'm gonna shoot them. There was about as much passion and pride in that squad as a bunch of emo's in a wirst-slitting contest.

WOLLONGONG WOLVES FOR A-LEAGUE EXPANSION!

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Heineken wrote:
jmars wrote:
scouse_roar wrote:
I don't give a fuck about losing a match like this. It's the complete lack of drive, attacking and passion that irks me. We were always going to be outclassed but we should never have been outfought or outworked. We've lost everything under this prat that was a positive aspect in our football.



This. Good post mate.


+1.

If i hear one of those starting 11 say anything about the pride of pulling on a national jersey, a dream they've had since they were child, such an honor etc etc etc i'm gonna shoot them. There was about as much passion and pride in that squad as a bunch of emo's in a wirst-slitting contest.


Yes, I do remember during a press conference during the week that 'Aussies don't give up'. The thing is Australia would have played alot better under Guus.
Remember the Asian Cup, South Korea under Pim were very flat and struggled to score, but they didn't look flat against Greece.
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Its not really rocket science One simply has to look at all performances under the leadership of this guy and the answer is staring you in the face
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I just can't understand how he can't see what is blatantly obvious. Jobs for the boys gone wild.
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Was I the only one excited to see Holman come on? At least he showed us that going forward was possible.
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As ive previously said before in a different article (too pissed off to comment in detail)

jamo91 wrote:

Get the fuck out of our country.

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Cheers wrote:
Heineken wrote:
jmars wrote:
scouse_roar wrote:
I don't give a fuck about losing a match like this. It's the complete lack of drive, attacking and passion that irks me. We were always going to be outclassed but we should never have been outfought or outworked. We've lost everything under this prat that was a positive aspect in our football.



This. Good post mate.


+1.

If i hear one of those starting 11 say anything about the pride of pulling on a national jersey, a dream they've had since they were child, such an honor etc etc etc i'm gonna shoot them. There was about as much passion and pride in that squad as a bunch of emo's in a wirst-slitting contest.


Yes, I do remember during a press conference during the week that 'Aussies don't give up'. The thing is Australia would have played alot better under Guus.
Remember the Asian Cup, South Korea under Pim were very flat and struggled to score, but they didn't look flat against Greece.


The last part of your post is key. Over the last 2 1/2 years this good crop of aussies players have completely lost their way in the attacking form of the game, of which is a mirror image to which Korea Rep did during the AC07 (look at them now...flying!). The obvious is that Pim was in charge of both, he has no clue about scoring goals. We dont have much over any other nation at the WC, but fighting and determination to attack and prove people wrong has always been our strength sadly it seems we even lost that.

I hope whatever plan Pim comes up with to tackle Ghana the senior players choose to ignore and instead play the AUSTRALIAN way!
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for those saying germany are the better side and thus this should have been expected, vindicating pim and the players, i'd advise you to look to brazil v aus last WC. granted, the 2006 was in a different class to the current one, but we gave it to the brazilians, were lucky not to score on more than a few occasions, and rode them all over the pitch with this much talked about 'australian spirit' that gets thrown around so much. of course, it was 2-0 in the end but we didnt care because we played with dignity, this was just pathetic, something is missing, something is dire in the camp and i'd like to know wtf is going on.

Edited by Dogsdogsdogs: 14/6/2010 08:29:34 PM
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Hear hear dogsx3
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seem that scouse_roar knows everything
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Its going to be ok anyway, with Cahill out Holman will start.
It's Holmans turn to become loved.
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I'm defo getting a Holman jersey for this WC strip.

Don't think anybody will be getting rid of Pim, that would kill off any hope of making the next round if we had Arnie in charge. Seems unfortunately Aurelio Vidmar going to the WC to learn off Pim has backfired a little also, hopefully the next NT coach shows him some good stuff.

If we draw/lose this match we must play our youngsters in the final group match and give them some experience and let them show the world what they can do. I'm guessing our second string XI would have managed a better effort against Germany... seriously, I have only Neill starting from our normal starting XI plus Harry, in their normal formation. This is what I would like to see in the 3rd match if it's a dead rubber.



Federici

Milligan Beauchamp Neill Carney

Jedinak Valeri

Vidosic Holman Kewell

Kennedy/Ruka


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anth wrote:
I'm defo getting a Holman jersey for this WC strip.

Don't think anybody will be getting rid of Pim, that would kill off any hope of making the next round if we had Arnie in charge. Seems unfortunately Aurelio Vidmar going to the WC to learn off Pim has backfired a little also, hopefully the next NT coach shows him some good stuff.

If we draw/lose this match we must play our youngsters in the final group match and give them some experience and let them show the world what they can do. I'm guessing our second string XI would have managed a better effort against Germany... seriously, I have only Neill starting from our normal starting XI plus Harry, in their normal formation. This is what I would like to see in the 3rd match if it's a dead rubber.



Federici

Milligan Beauchamp Neill Carney

Jedinak Valeri

Vidosic Holman Kewell

Kennedy/Ruka




Vidmar has learnt heaps. HOW NOT TO COACH AN AUSTRALIAN TEAM.
GO


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