griffo would of been a prima dona and spat the dummy in lets say 5 mins if the ball didnt get to him ! and vaughn lets hope to god pims does play hkand big jesus and have our lil men near em to spill up the crumbs lol

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Yeah, but we played a high defensive line against the USA and that didn't work, so who would have guessed we needed a PLAN B???? :shock: :shock: :shock:

hahaha MvFC.. Griffo would have cried but at least he would have been A striker extra to bring on that can score goals occasionally in big games... world cup against germany big maybe not.. just highlighting the lack of target men in our(sorry) Pim's team.

There were a number of problems with Australia and many can be blamed on Pim himself. First of all, he never bother to understand football in Australia. It was always a struggle for him, A-League not good enough, relying on old players, Graham Arnold still on the bench (I know he is leaving but he is long overdue), not adopting the 433 formation and destroying the team's spirit. Australia used to be united in play, used to be positive but now they are shambles.

Why after all of those boring matches that gave us results did Pim suddenly experiment? Time for experimenting is OVER. This is it, the World Cup. It's all or nothing. Why not put our best team out? Why not have players where the are most effective?

I am very angry.

over this - next game pls

Worst Socceroos performance I can remember.Lets hope Ruud Guillt doesnt take over from Pim because he has been a failure where ever he has managed. Garcia Moore and Emerton played the best, Lucas looked lost. Zonal marking doesnt suit this team. Half the team are out of form Pim because of you

yep I agree
The Socceroos after that performance should be renamed the Dullsville Rockets!!

After watching Serbia vs Ghana we should test both their (Wigan reserves) keepers out with as many shots as possible

oh ok so bresc was more out of form than garcia who cant even get a game for bloody hull, gees may as well bring vidmar in for next 2 games n play 433

Viddie would probably score a few too... :p

In the 2 friendlies and in this match, Australia have been much better in the 2nd half than the first.

I wonder if this would have anything to do with the personnel. Pim...come in Pim....do you read me Pim?

Any thoughts that the result was caused by an ageing squad with limited talent should be shot down in flames. We don't know to what extent they are true purely because the team and the tactics chosen by Verbeek were the biggest factor.

Give Hiddink or any decent coach control of that squad (or let's face it they would have chose a different squad) and you would have seen a very different 11 and more than likely a different result.

For that reason we will most likely never know how much of a factor age and talent were/ will be for the next few games. The reason being that a inadequate coach has messed it all up with his absolute idiocy.

Shame on you Verbeek, you have crushed the hopes of a nation. And if he turns it around in the next few games I will chop my testes off with a rusty knife.

Pim, you should have played Bresciano and Kennedy instead of Garcia and Valeri, ok Kewell was not fully ecovered so couldnt play fair enough but Bresciano and Kennedy were fine and fit but you didnt play them, we could have at least scored one goal if you had have.

dullsville - Moore was one of our best. What shit are you smoking??!!

One of the biggest things Pim has done is kill the unity of the squad (once referred to asa family), and has totally destroyed what is probably the roos biggest asset. Their attitude!! HIs negativity is complately contrary to our :have a go" "never say die" outlook.

Why on earth did he play Cahill as a lone striker?? They tried that against Japan during the qualifier and that didn't work, so why on earth would it work against a team that is 10x better than Japan??

Oh FFS it must be harder to fuck something up this badly. Need a new coach. Or Guus?

Culina still looked half good playing out of position!

To Pim ,
I would just like to take this oppurtunity to let you know that my earlier coments regarding selection of our defence has now just been justified ( Colosimo and Bosnar ).
Just a bit of advice , if you want toplay the offside trap against a team like GER , GAHNA or SER you need strong , agile and QUICK central def that if we are caught out can actually chase a ball or player down not just stand and watch . AND TO ALL OF YOU THAT GAVE ME A HARD TIME ABOUT MY EARLIER COMENTS ON SELECTION AND OUR DEF BEING OUR WEEK POINT .The proof is in the pudding .

We are at a world cup . We have 3 games to qualify to th 16. our team is made up of unfit, injured , no game time ,no club players . HOW THE F DOSE THAT HELP US GET THERE . pim you are an absolute mong , I as a supporter would have much prefered our in form a-league and asian league players be there and actually have a go and lose than a team of criples....

Failures: 1. Cahill up front 2. Bringing only 3 strikers and not starting any of them 3. Neill insulting his team before match 4. Playing for a draw 5. High back line 6. Throwing the match. I gave Pim the benefit of the doubt for the last year but he has a LOT to do in the next two matches to atone for the matches since South Korea.

lappin 100% of these comments from what i have read are directed at verbeek not sure who you are calling dickheads...

The scary thing about the problem facing the Australian team now is we have to win the next 2 matches. Why is that scary?... Because over the past 3 years... Pim has never shown 1 iota of attacking intent.

We don't have a game plan instilled to attack. There is no plan B. Everyone has been saying we have no plan B for years and now more than ever we need a Plan B.

We haven't got one!!!!!!

well its pretty clear that the whole football community agree's that pims shape sux,4-2-3-1.??? yet the FFA have our technical director hans burger instructing every state association that we need to adopt a 4-3-3 formation of play, so why does pim persist with this shape, maybe he read a coaching manual or a stat sheet that told him that more teams win with this formation, the fact is coaches are trhere to extract the best out of the talent they have , NOT change them, simple way to explain is, when a good looking chick gets a gig as a model its because she is hot, then the wankers tell her your titts arent big enough, ur lips are thin, next thing you know she's lost her natural beauty, same here, Pim has coached the instinct out of the squad, if i had the say, id change the shape, and tell them to ge out there and do what they do best, play football with heart and commitment, then australia will be back in town...

Pim may excuse the players but I daresay if you were the captain of a team getting thumped due to poor tactical nous then would you not take it apon yourself to change something?
the coach can be held responsible but realistically if the team loses that badly you cant go past blaming the players for what was a dismal performance by all.

I know alot of you agree with Pim not putting Harry on but I don't, Harry would of lifted the spirts of the team. Pim chose not to utilise his subs, why not play some of the more inexperienced players so to unerve them. Garcia played a terrific game for a half having to play as a forward. Sure he may not of been our first choice but he did well. Our defensive team should of had changes earlier on to stop the Germans from scoring any more. I wouuld of put on Beauchamp, Carney. Moore shouldn't of even got on the park, and as much as I am not a fan of holman he went on when the game was a debarklle, no one said the game was going to be easy but to go into a game with the mind set of a draw will do isn't good thinking, Lucas didn't have a great game the back line just left to many players open for the Germans to pass back.

pim u should have put harry and jesus on
and ref please what were u thinking cahill didnt deserve a red let alone a fu**ing yellow
PIM YOU FU**WIT!!!!!
get out of here go back to holland u dutch bastard

Just had a horrible thought. There may be a plan B. With Duh Beek's current surprises in tactics formost in my mind, perhaps he will play Kennedy and Kewell as central defenders and Schwartzer as our lone striker. Oh hang on, who would be goalie, can't have mcdonald he's not there .... GRELLA is the new goalie !!!!!!
A great new Duh Beek tactick is uncovered, before you see it first on the world stage.
Wait .... I'm getting a twitter message .... it's from Derm it Brrerreton, he can hop a plane and be there before sat and be new assistant goalie coach........ no, he can be goalie .... "Shut the front Door" that wouldn't be allowed it's against the rules to add aplayer to the squad. Shit .... what will we do ... I know .... ask arnold. Oh shit he's not here, he's off trying to recruit for the mariners ...... where's viddie ???? ....WHER"S VIDDIE????
Too late ...it's too late for viddie ... maybe next WC, I've looked in every WC and he can't be found ....look down at the pub .... moore would have taken them all for a drink with frankie and miller.

My head hurts ... all the shit written on these forums has cooked my brain ...wait ... oh no .... it's all come true.
The moral to the story is that Pim the beek obviously doesn't read the forums, otherwise he would have had a clue about his coaching position and what ozzies expect. He should never have listened to arnold, ever, oh no pity the mariners ?

It looked like a match fixing attempt gone wrong.
Germany were at $26 for four nil result.

Oh hang on ... it didn't go wrong ?????

Ouch!