A) We win and Ghana wins
or
B) We win and Germany wins with the total goal margin making up 5 goals (e.g Germany wins 3-0 and we win 2-0)

My lineup would be-

4-2-3-1-

GK- Mark Schwarzer

DR- Luke Wilkshire
DL- David Carney
DC- Lucan Neill
DC- Michael Beauchamp

DM- Mile Jedinak
DM- Carl Valeri

AMR- Brett Emerton
AML- Mark Bresciano
AMC- Tim Cahill

ST- Joshua Kennedy

i dunno. i think i'd swap ruka in instead of kennedy, leaving the latter as an impact player. apart from that, the only question would be culina-v-jedinak. otherwise, agree wholehartedly.

tonight just totally proved how the 4-2-3-1 can be a very aggressive formation when used appropriately. about time we saw pim bring it out.

Cullina killed us today. He lost possesion way too much today and didn't show enough ergency the whole match. Today showed Chipperfield and Grella should no longer start anymore. I'd leave Rukavytsa till the last 20min when the defense has tired although his speed could possibly get Vidic sent off like how Torres always does it to him :P.

Culina for mine and would be a temptation to play Chippers in place of Bresciano. Ruka is a definite chance as the Serbs did not cope with Podolski's pace the other night and Ruka is quicker than him.

4 goals should be enough I think
Say AU 2-0 and DE 2-0 (AU scored 3 goals, Ghana 2)
or AU 3-0 and DE 1-0. (AU scored 4 goals, Ghana 2)

a 1-0 and 3-0 would mean Ghana go through I think. Perhaps I am wrong, if anyone knows the rules better please correct me :)

Edited by canehdrian13: 20/6/2010 02:32:44 AM

Wait no I am wrong, sorry

Edited by canehdrian13: 20/6/2010 02:34:22 AM

Technically there is an option C)-

Germany and Ghana Draw and Australia wins by 8 goals :P

Chipperfield can start if up forward though, but agree he is no good at the back anymore.

Doesn't seem too far of the question... Except option c. Lol. If we keep playing like we did tonight it doesn't have to be over.

Ghana has a goal difference right now of +1. We hav a goal difference of -4 so they're ahead by 5. We need to make up that 5.

Yes I just noticed, sorry :)

4 will be enough because we would be equal GD but we will have scored more, meaning we go through.

EG- Ghana lose- they are at least 0 GD, If we win 4-0 our GD goes to 0 but we have 5 GF so we go through.

Edited by torana_a9x: 20/6/2010 02:42:19 AM

Culina was no doubt, the worst player for us. He continues to stifle our transitional game. poor decision making with his insistence on opting to pass backward nullified our effectivness going forward and places unnecessary pressure on the defence to pass out again or just give the ball to Shwarz to bomb up field with only a 50/50 chance of regaining possession. we could've had 3 or 4 excellent attacking positions in their half if it weren;t for his dreadful decision making. he lost the ball deep, in dangerous areas, dwelled on the ball far too long, and his composure on the ball has evaporated. lumping the ball in the air to no one in particular instead of taking a touch, and giving the ball away just placed us under persistent pressure. as a screener, he rally isn't very good. I think we can do better. either play him at rb, or not at all imo


Edited by cool_cat2007: 20/6/2010 02:46:51 AM

He should've taken off Cullina instead of Wilkshire for Rukavytsa. Valeri was very good.

It goes Points, GD, Goals scored, H2H. So basically, if we can score 2 goals and Germany win 2-0, we're through.

An 8 goal win will guarantee qualification no matter what the result in the other match. Should the other match end in a draw we would then go through on goal difference at the expense of Germany.

No. If we win 2-0 and Germany win 2-0 our goal difference would be -2 and Ghana's would be -1. They'd go through not us.

loved the end interview with pim

Int: So we need to score goals next game against Serbia, how do you plan on doing that"
PV: We go out there and we get the goals. Simple.

*sigh* If only picking up women was as simple as going out there and getting them :lol:

Lol at the interview.

^^I'm blaming the time of morning and my consumption of alcohol for any maths errors made :)