France V Mexico

And I'd throw Japan v Cameroon in there

Spain v Switzerland much?

What a finish to this group of death after a disasterous 4 goal thrashing start.
One game to go and any of the four teams can get through.

Two draws and its Ghana and Germany
Two wins and Serbia and Germany or Australia and Ghana go through depending on who wins, goal differences, handballs, sending offs and whatever.

And both games are played at the same time!

Socceroos Serbia live on SBS1 and Ghana Germany live on SBS2.
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How do we get out of this? Easy, cheat and try to get players sent off.

Simply put we need to score early (big ask) against Serbia and win. That is the minimum requirement for me. 4 points will see the same result as 2006 and I want to see that happen. Whether it will enough is another thing.

However, if we score early it will put pressure on Serbia to come at us as they will probablyy need to win as well. Hopefully opening the way for more goals.

The other game we can do nothing about. Though I suspect Germany will be pretty pissed after their loss and may have a heap more luck against Ghana than what they had against a very good Serbian defence.

It's quite obvious we need Kennedy Cahill, Holman and Chippers and Bresc all on the field starting at the one time. The serbs are butchers and if they fall behind early will get frustrated and attempt to maim and hack with a penalty a possiblity. There result against Germany was a fluke as germany had all the play. We should throw caution to the wind and either go big or just fucking go home.

people seem to be forgetting we're playing serbia, not america samoa. best chance is ghana beating germany n us getting a 1-0 win

Simple really. Kewell's denied a goal Vidic's didn't.

Zigic is simply over-rated and would be more effective on a basketball court. Can someone please explain how that douchebag Vidic deliberately handballed and was not sent off and Kewell did it accidently and was?. I am a bit vague about the rules!! Please explain

So then with Kewell out and Cahill coming back in will Pim play Kennedy up front or will he put Cahill back there after the Germany failure? I hope he plays Kennedy up front with Cahill behind him. I believe this way we can get the desired result.

lol, zigic is there to do exactly what he done against germany, drop the ball for the oncoming player, lol...hes not shittest but hes the clumsiest lol...but somehow he will score on thursday.

well, looking through that link, perhaps no red card points. so it would be down to drawing lots. but knowing our luck, we'd be a sure bet to go through on that basis.

australia to win 32-0 and break their own world record.

ps if germany win 4-0 and australia win 1-0, then as above we'd be equal to ghana on points, goal difference, goals for and head-to-head. so as far as i'm aware, the next differentiator would be red cards. no so good for us.

ideal scenario; australia win 1-0, ghana trailing 3-0 and down to 9 men in injury time, only to concede a penalty and a red card for a deliberate handball. lose 4-0, with 3 red cards. australia through on card difference!

@white eagle. Zigic is the shittest striker in the tournmanent. Couldn't even get a header on target over Lahm, who has the height of a oompa-loompa.

You don't have to get past Vidic. Just lob the ball above his head and wait.

Totally agree. The Germans have to go for the win and whoever comes in for Klose will be trying their utmost to retain their position in the next game = goals.

No hat. There is a new rule for deciding the winner.

They way I understand it, under your scenario Ghana and Australia will be on the same points and the same number of goals scored and conceded, in which case and because Ghana and Australia are on different stadiums, the two grounds will be linked by video link and Ghana and Australia will take at least 5 alternate shots, one at a time, towards an empty goal from the halfway line, until there's a winner. I think the coach and assistant coach are allowed to have a go first. :^o

couldnt be more true! i cant think of one game this world cup where a team with a better line up on paper has lost to the supposedly weaker team...

It gets even more complicated that this article outlines. See http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/tournament/competition/56/42/69/fifawcsouthafrica2010inhalt_e.pdf
If Germany beats Ghana 4-0 and we beat Serbia 1-0 then as far as I can work out FIFA draws us out of a hat to see who goes through.

I'm sorry you seem to have got the wrong forums. TWGF are that way ---->

Edited by guest: 20/6/2010 01:53:52 PM

Sorry only Australian arrogance and optimism is allowed.

lol, you people are funny.. sorry to spoil the party but australia hasnt got a chance against the serbs... they just dont have the quality to battle with them in attack, i cant see any of the ozzies getting past vidic and ivanovic..plus there is no one on the flanks taking care of krasic and jovanovic, australia will get ripped to shreds down the flank and germanies tallest defender was still to short for zigic, the final score will read something like this.... serbia 3 def australia 0 sorry boys thats just how sour it is...

Germany will beat Ghana and I expect by at least 2 goals. No way Ghana will score unless the ref gives them another penalty.

Fact: all of Ghana's goals have been penalties, both from hand balls.
Fact: every other team in Group D has had a red card, 2 out of 4 of the red cards were against Ghana.
Fact: in both games Ghana has played their opposition has gotten a red card.
Fact: Ghana should have had a red card last night.

Ghana are definitely doing it hard this world cup...

Every game in this group has had red cards, group D = group of red cards. If Serbia cop another one early we could maybe bang in a couple.

And I think it'll be a small miracle if Ghana get the win,they've only scored from the spot and couldn't break down Australia when we had 9 players plus Craig Moore. I'll have to dig my rosary beads out...

Germany has been very impressive. Even with one man down against Serbia they still outplayed them, dominated play and created genuine chances throughout the game. Ghana failed to make any use their one man advantage against us and looked average against Serbia. Furthermore this is not a dead-rubber for Germany, they need to win just as much as all the other teams. A very big German victory is certainly on the cards, we may only need to beat Serbia 1 or 2 nil. Given the Serbs average performances lately and the imminent return of Tim Cahill I think a 1 or 2 nil win is well within our means.

The only result I would wager on is Australia finishing with 10 men or less.

The Germans will be fired up after their loss to Serbia. They wont want to finish second. The media will have torn them a new one after that game.

Knowing our luck we will win 7-0, but then the Germany v Ghana game will be a 4-4 draw and Germany will go through on goals scored.

If Australia don't make it through, I just hope that Ghana don't, as they really haven't earned it (I am of course willing to let them through if it means we get in too though! :)).

Please just win the game against Serbia. Forget about goal difference. If we were going to qualify, we needed to win last night.