Just a pity it was in your hands to start off with you plonker


What do you think about the FourFourTwo article Pim: It's Out Of Our Hands?
PIM Verbeek admits Australia's hopes of qualifying for the second round of the World Cup for the second time in a row are now effectively out of the Socceroos' hands following the 1-1 draw with Ghana.

Have your say.

Well actually Pim, if we go for an all-out assault on Serbia and can get a good goal difference then we give ourselves quite a good chance. Sure it relies on the Germany+Ghana result, but we have to play positive and give ourselves the best chance possible.

It was the negative attitude that f*cked us against the Germans. Give up the negative attitude you twit.

It was out of our hands the minute you decided to send up the white flag against germany.

Technically it's still in our hands... If we beat Serbia 8-0, we're through no matter what happens between Ghana and Germany.

Ok, it's out of our hands.

This guy's soft.
Certainly not worthy of coaching you guys.

He's given up before kickoff again.

Can't wait to see the back of this guy. Our fate was sealed the minute we raised the white flag against Germany and his brain explosion with the team selection and set up. Now he's saying the same thing. Idiot!

That's being a bit presumptuous isn't it?

DONT Be To Harsh ON the GUY , afterall HE has got us to our 3rd WORLD CUP. BUT PIM IS CERTAINLY NO GUS HIDDINK !

To be fair, a retarded monkey could have guided us through Asia to the world cup.

And would have been more entertaining. Flinging poop at Arnie and the like.

Please correct me if i'm wrong, but if we beat Serbia 2-0 & Germany beat Ghana 3-0, then both Aust & Ghana finsh with 4 points and a -2 goal difference....and then don't we progress as we have scored more goals ???

This.




:lol: The mental image of that in my head is funny :lol:

What happens if Germany beat Ghana 2-0 and Australia beats Serbia 2-0. Goal difference is exact.

From what I heard they they do head to head with Ghana. It was a draw and then they go alphbetical? That can't be true.

Ok forget what I wrote: here are the rules.

According to Article 39 of the FIFA rules, the tiebreaker is as follows, in order of preference:

(1) Total points earned
(2) Total goal differential
(3) Total goals scored
(4) Points earned among matches played amongst tied teams (there can be 3 tied teams)
(5) Goal differential among matches played amongst tied teams
(6) Goals scored among matches played amongst tied teams
(7) Drawing of lots

They look at goals scored before head to head, which if your scenario comes about would be us going through as Ghana have only scored two and your scenario would have us scoring 4. After head to head it's drawing lots.

It never goes alphabetical (which we would win anyway, A comes before G).

Edited by notorganic: 21/6/2010 01:01:32 PM

But we have only scored 3 if that comes about. 1 against Ghana and then a hypothetical 2 against Serbia.

You're right.

Still, Ghana have scored 2. 3 would be enough.

latinr33,

If both Germany and us win 2-0, our goal difference will be -2 and Ghana's will be -1. one of the results needs to be 3-0 for us to go through....

http://www.smh.com.au/world-cup-2010/world-cup-news/we-have-to-go-for-it-verbeek-says-australia-will-leave-nothing-in-the-tank-20100620-ypag.html

Something tells me the socceroos will have a more attacking mindset for this game.

Unfortunately, I think the Serbians will be aware of this and will be looking to go for a quick counter at every opportunity.

Edited by socceroossupporter: 21/6/2010 04:50:56 PM

I'm more worried about us scoring 2 than the Germans being able to score 3. If the Germans go ahead, Ghana will chase the game and get picked off on the counter. On the other hand we will struggle to get 2 and more than likely concede. You can put money on the fact at some point in the second half we will be a goal away from going though and it will turn to shit, just the way its been going for us so far.

Yeah, I'm not expecting much from this either. I pretty much gave up on making the round of 16 after the Ghana game. I'm only going to watch his game because the World Cup only comes around once every 4 years.

The Serbians are no push-overs and they will be playing to get into the round of 16 as much as us.

It will take a miracle for us to make the round of 16. The German game really killed us in the end.

Ah well, anyway, it's time to just relax and enjoy our last game at the World Cup. Come on Australia, let's beat Serbia and finish on a high. :)

Time for a gutbusting, nail biting, stranger hugging, balls-to-the-wall stab at glory.

Notorganic I agree with you mate and if anyone can do it we can. We always have to do it the hard way and hopefully this is another one of those times. We have had a bad run of bad luck this WC it has to even out somewhere. COME ON THE ROOS

Can this fuckin prick ever be positive about anything. I am so over him and his attitude. The team has control of its own destiny so just go out and win and win well, show the world show the Serbs. In the words of legendary AFL coach John Kennedy-"Don't think just do!!"

This is a worry. We need to be thinking of winning and going forward not saying lets hope. ITs not over and its not impossible.

Go for the win as big as we can. Forget about Germany and Ghana as we can't fix that result (or can we?). If we beat Serbia 2/3-0 then we have given ourselves the best chance and shown oursleves we deserve to be in the final 16

Draw lots - sounds like a Kiwi or a Pom...

Would love to see us just get off the bottom of the group. Any win gives us a shot. Get in there team!

Notorganic, if we had a retarded monkey in charge he would probably be Dutch or do we already have him there now?

Morocco is an awesome country - how much do I wish you were there 2 weeks ago Pim!
It's been said 10 times already in this thread, but f#ck it, once more won't hurt: You screwed us and our WC dream with the Germany game, and nobody will ever forget it!

Were going through no doubt.

Were going through no doubt.