U/17 Joeys tour & tournament in England


U/17 Joeys tour & tournament in England

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spathi wrote:
[quote=COYS]nope sorry mate...

i know the ffa listed him as a free agent during the AFF championships but benji said he met markelis in melbourne while he was in australia during the break and markelis said that he signed a new deal with valencia...only then for me to check this out http://www.ozfootball.net/ark/Abroad/index.html and then i double checked the vicenza website and theyve also got him listed as their player now

his reason could range in anything from being not good enough to offered a quicker path to first team football


Funny how that goalkeeper you mentioned Dean Gardikiotis from Middlesborough is not on the list of the link you posted. I wonder how many others are not on the list?


Spathi please mate get off the DG forum, the lad needs a heap of development, and please dont think all the punters or coaches in Australis were wrong. The viewings from the Aust camp showed the lad has a heap of work to do. If I was you I would sit tight and enjoy the experience. Seriously enough already. Just cause your in the UK as a keeper doesnt mean your actually better than whats in Australia. Its a known fact that england produce little in the way of keepers.
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Thanks for your prophetic insight but I think I can ask questions about whoever I like. Thanks for your concern.:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


Edited by spathi: 8/9/2010 09:01:33 PM
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UK, while we are talking truths, I trust you saw the 4 goals conceded against England. The young Aussie keeper was poorly out of position for every goal. If he'd had his angles right he could and should have saved 3, and as for the cross, well he should never have come flapping for it.
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bolter wrote:
UK, while we are talking truths, I trust you saw the 4 goals conceded against England. The young Aussie keeper was poorly out of position for every goal. If he'd had his angles right he could and should have saved 3, and as for the cross, well he should never have come flapping for it.


I dont want to be to critical. Because England are a top class side. Facts are that the lad is to small for this level. You must be 62 now as a minimum. And he doesnt get to play against the quality of the english lads week in week out so he cannot be blamed to much. Warm up games against the girls dont cut it.

For what else I saw there is actually nothing in the age group. Those in the know realise who is the best couple of keepers and where they play, the rest are along way off the pace.

While the FFA continue to pick sub standard players especially in the goalkeeping department players will continue to play for other countries.

It must be very frustrating to make the move OS and then get left out cause the AIS kids need to play, but that life. You got to take it on the chin and move on. What gets up my nose is the fact that the ones that are playing as pros need to be the ones getting the development.

The 17s is the kiss of death for many a career and I can see no doubt that alot of these players will suffer the same fate. The worst case for these players would be to actually qualify for the world cup and get stuck at the AIS for another year.

Lets hope for their future careers they get to leave the AIS and pursue the overseas route than many should have taken.

And alot are good enough to as well.
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UKTruth you are entitled to your opinion but some of your comments are just venomous (I don't believe there are any girls in the NYL or Canberra first grade?). There are some young keepers that have chosen to go overseas to pursue football if they have not been selected here and good luck to them - but it does not make them suddenly better players. The FFA in the last few years have selected overseas players into a squads - just look at the u/20's. The FFA is also independent of the AIS. Players in the 17's age group are constantly changing with growth and development and that has more an influence on career than does selection in a certain team. On this recent tour the overseas goalkeepers were given a chance and I believe the results were mixed. Bolter - Did you actually attend the UK Australia game or are you basing your comments from the highlights video? See if you can find out the actual number of shots on goal? The lad involved will be better for the experience.
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Maybe Markelis thought he was better off being closer to having more chances at the new club. Well with Villa and Silva gone, it left players like Mata, Soldado, Aduriz as the main goal-scoring threats up front for them (well Mata being a winger). With a couple of other forwards around the team - Dominguez and a 21 year old Norwegian.

They also have two young players who some say are like the new Villa and Silva in talent. Alcacer - 17, who went awesome for Spain at u17 level. Isco - 18, who is an attacking winger/am.
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@COYS

Modaffari and Maselli aren't in Vicenza Primavera Team at the moment.
I think they've been released.
Esposito now is on loan at Pro Vercelli (which plays in Italian fourth tier).
In 4 games no minutes for him,maybe he's injured.
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yeah, esposito broke his leg, hell be out for a long time
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COYS wrote:
yeah, esposito broke his leg, hell be out for a long time

Ouch!!! :( Can't get a break this lad, no pun intended. Looks like another talent who may find it tough going.
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StudsUp wrote:
UKTruth you are entitled to your opinion but some of your comments are just venomous (I don't believe there are any girls in the NYL or Canberra first grade?). There are some young keepers that have chosen to go overseas to pursue football if they have not been selected here and good luck to them - but it does not make them suddenly better players. The FFA in the last few years have selected overseas players into a squads - just look at the u/20's. The FFA is also independent of the AIS. Players in the 17's age group are constantly changing with growth and development and that has more an influence on career than does selection in a certain team. On this recent tour the overseas goalkeepers were given a chance and I believe the results were mixed. Bolter - Did you actually attend the UK Australia game or are you basing your comments from the highlights video? See if you can find out the actual number of shots on goal? The lad involved will be better for the experience.


While I agree that some players are not better and are in the UK, there are a handful who are better and for whatever reason have chosen not to turn up or just given it a wide berth. Speaking to two of the parents who left it alone. Both of these players would be a walk up start if they turned up.

In relation to keepers why Australia picks players under 6ft is a joke. You cant get a look in the os market if you under 6 or should be ask Danny Im 62 Vokovic why he is back in Australia.
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I'm not saying the young keeper didn't make some great stops, but his positioning for 3 of the goals was all wrong, on each occassion he shows too much of one side of his goal, basic errors that need to be rectified if he is to have a future in the game, this added to his lack of height creates more barriers to his future success.
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