Just quickly, old news now which I actually only found out today because I forgot about it, but Brady won the MVP award unanimously, the first player to do so. That is, he collected 50 out of a possible 50 votes. Superb.

You'd want statistically the best quarterback in history in exchange for Johnson? You're fucking mad. Come back when he's the best running back in history and we'll talk.

Flynn could be starting QB at just about any other team in the league (other than Steelers, Eagles and Pats)...wouldn't surprise me if he asked to be traded.

Hes a 3x pro bowl player

NFL scouts are far from ignorant. They're very switched on and know exactly what is required in order to succeed as an NFL punter. They're fully aware that these players were successful at AFL, they're also fully aware that it doesn't necessarily convert to being a successful NFL punter.

Fevola doesn't have the consistency of length to succeed as a punter in the NFL the way Rocca did. It's a big ask to be able to land the punt in a one-yard square time and again from varying field position.

He's a 3x pro-bowl alternate, making him third choice for the pro-bowl. He's never actually played a pro-bowl game. And Shane Lechler was picked ahead of him the last four seasons.

I'd say he's had the most work of any punter in the entire league over the last 4 seasons that's why ! :-s (Note: no checking of statistics was done, opinion purely based on Oakland being shit)

lechler is their only hope at getting decent field position. they also have a good kicker for basically the same reason. they wont get close enough to score a touchdown.

Rocca isnt even that great.

As far as Fevola is concerned it really pisses me off. Afro can you stop talking about Fevola like hes actually a punter. If he does trial he will be an AFL player trying to kick spirals. He is not a punter. He will not get the job. Nick Davis could call himself a punter cause he kinda had an idea what he was doing but Fevola, no. Just no. Its a disgrace and he will disgrace himself.
Anyway whats your source on Fev and the chargers apart from Darren bennett a few weeks ago saying he has a tiny chance?

Fevola like hes actually a punter. If he does trial he will be an AFL player trying to kick spirals. ?

I remember hearing somewhere that one of the reasons AFL players kept getting looked at by NFL scouts was that they don't kick spirals. Apparently the yanks aren't used to the end over end action of a typical AFL kicker and the return man is more likely to fumble when trying to catch a ball spinning end over.

Mathsay is quality, it's the hands team that let him down. The blokers on the hands team don't have the pace to give the return adequate coverage. If Rodgers wasn't such an awesome QB we'd be fucked.

Being a punter is about getting maximum yardage while still being able to land your punt on an area the size of a midget in a hoola hoop.

Mathsay had one of the best punt records from the 2010 season. And when you've got a QB throwing 101.2, that's a mean effort.

This has been eating at me all day, what's it called when the punting team rebounds the ball short and tries to reclaim possession on the 10 yard line? Chicago tried it against Packers in the NFC title game and fluffed it and I can't think what the play was called.

I remember hearing somewhere that one of the reasons AFL players kept getting looked at by NFL scouts was that they don't kick spirals. Apparently the yanks aren't used to the end over end action of a typical AFL kicker and the return man is more likely to fumble when trying to catch a ball spinning end over.

NFL scouts like that kick cause its more accurate. American players are starting to pick it up now to use for directional punts. Green Bays Masthay for instance taught himself how to use it after he saw Chris Byran (aussie) do it in pre-season camp.
Majority of punts though require a spiral because its works in weather that isnt ideal and gets more distance and hang.

So now the Aussie's taught them how to do it, they don't need them anymore? :lol:

exactly.

and they might get aussies in to camps just to kick end-over-end to the punt returners for practice. They might have trouble catching them now but look how easy it is to catch a drop punt for an AFL player.

I'm not expert on AFL, but I don't see hem catch on the chest very often, which is what NFL kick returners do.

look how easy it is to catch a drop punt for an AFL player.

The hands team is the team thats put on to minimise the chances of an effective onside kick... not exactly your punt return team.

Not entirely. Punting is about giving the ball enough hang time to allow your teammates to recover it or to allow a fair catch, etc. To deny get as close to the endzone as possible and not allow the return team to gain good field position. The goal is inside 20.
If you kick it too long and for not enough hang time you give a guy who can run 100m in just over 10 seconds and with the agility of a cat a 20m head start on all your guys. Youre fucked.

No player can come under scrutiny for off field offences at the moment. This could get ugly !

Show them in training though and its as easy as catching a spiral (which for afl players is probably harder cause theyre rare!)

[size=6]NFL star Ochocinco to take part in MLS trial [/size]

MIAMI - Chad Ochocinco, one of the NFL's top wide-receivers, will have a trial with Major League Soccer's Sporting Kansas City next week, the team said on Wednesday.

Six-time Pro Bowl selection Ochocinco, who plays for the Cincinnati Bengals, responded to news of the NFL's lockout of players on Saturday by suggesting on Twitter he would like to switch sports and play for Sporting.

The team have responded by inviting him for a four-day trial starting on Tuesday.

"Due to the NFL lockout I am excited to be able to follow my childhood dream of playing for a Major League Soccer team," the 33-year-old said in a statement released by Sporting KC.

Ochocinco has previously posted pictures of himself with Brazilians Ronaldinho and Kaka on the internet, visited Real Madrid and regularly comments on soccer games.

Sporting coach Peter Vermes said he was interested to see how Ochocinco would turn his athleticism into ability on the soccer field.

"We are always searching for players who can help our team and bringing in new talent. We know that Chad is an exceptional athlete and loves the sport of soccer and he did play a lot when he was younger.

"We are excited to see how his skills will translate once he arrives next week and begins training with our team," he said.

The team said they would decide after the trial whether or not to extend Ochocinco's time with the club.

He was born in Miami as Chad Johnson but changed his name in 2008 to reflect a Spanish language version of his shirt number 85.

The NFL and the players' union are heading to court on April 6 where an anti-trust case will be heard following the breakdown in talks over a new collective agreement.
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