No way Ramsey will be loaned out. Flamini has burnt his bridges here and I would much prefer Arteta over him anyway. Pogba won't leave Juve imo, and is more Song than Viera anyway.

Can't see that. Already rubbed the Liverpool owners the wrong way with the 40,000,001 pound offer and after Henry's reply I cannot see him going back to accept that amount so you would have to offer 5-10m more for even chance of signing him (not saying he won't go for 40m just if he does it will probably be overseas). Then you have Fellaini who will apparently cost about 22m (reported Man U offer) and you have already reached your 70m before adding the extra say 9m for the remaining two.

He's not World Class OR a DM :lol:

Perhaps I'm being too lose with the term "World Class".

But I see him as probably the best DM in the premier league when he plays there. Being the best in a position in the best league in the world qualifies as world class by my definition.

:lol: my point exactly.

Wow.

You guys are dicks :lol:
I used the word DM because I was comparing him with Ginter who would occupy the same spot if regarded as a DM by Wenger.

Arsenal doesn't have a typical DM role but he would play along side Arteta taking turns of being the deep most midfielder.
I think he's close to if not THE best at that sort of role in the league.

A role he hasn't actually played in for a year and a half?

Please dont make us name the best PL dm's/ deep midfielders...

Edited by vaughn2111: 5/8/2013 01:26:28 PM

The best DM...Seriously? Ramires, Yaya, Barry, Carrick, Wilshere, Arteta, Gerrard, Lucas, Sandro, Javi Garcia, Diame, Schneiderlin... need I go on?

I woudn't call a few of those 'DM's' but they're as much a DM as Fellaini is.

He can't tackle very well and his reading of the game defensively isn't that great. He's more an AM than a DM.

Couldn't help myself :P

Just my opinion. I think Fellaini is underrated as a central midfielder.

Fellaini >>> Gustavo

It is spelled Kondogbia. I cannot see you getting Pogba unless that is the only player you sign and even then I doubt Juve or Pogba will want the deal to go through

I'd say he's more a CM. Still, I don't know whether or not he would be an upgrade on Arteta.

Arteta is a better passer, is more adjusted to our system and better at seeing and closing down passing lanes.

Fellaini is not an as good passer as Arteta is, but this isn't so much a factor when most of Arteta's passes are to the simple option. Fellaini adds physicality to lightweight midfield- Fellaini-Wilshere-Cazorla, Fellaini-Arteta-Wilshere etc. If paired with Arteta I think he could do a very good job, but that role would be much more like Songs/Arteta's than Flamini/Gilberto.

As a DM, Gustavo>> Fellaini by a long way. As part of a midfield pivot, then Fellaini>Gustavo.

With this apparent war chest at your disposal, I would've thought you would be setting your sights a little higher than an overpriced, out of position Fellaini.

From an Everton point of view, Fellaini is easily at his best as an AM.

Well that conversation just expolded out of nowhere... It probably reflects the mood of us Gooners that just want business to get done. Hence my reference to David Dein.

Disappointed we didn't tie up Higuain or Jovetic - strangely we're playing/played them both this pre-season. Suarez will end up as a waste of time/energy cos Liverpool are adamant they won't sell to a rival. Which leaves us with... Rooney or more Wenger 'plucking from obscurity' tactics... which the fans have clearly grown tired of.

The fans demand (and the club needs to deliver on it promise of) World Class talent. Not World Class prospects or Big fish from small ponds. A proven top scorer from a proven top club in Spain, Germany, Italy or England. Not even Benteke, Lukaku or players of that ilk would cut it.

Higuain or Jovetic would have fit the bill perfectly.
All the remaining options that I'm aware of seem too like for like with Giroud.

At this point I wouldn't even mind if we just waited till the next transfer window and hope some better talent becomes available.
Till then just invest heavily in other positions and hope that Giroud has a better second EPL season like most strikers new to the league seem to do.

In FIFA maybe. But in the real world Fellaini is a much better option. Fellaini is suited to the EPL, handles the physicality well and can play anywhere in midfield he's asked to. He plays the DM role perfectly and he's superior in the air.

Fun fact: Gustavo has missed more Bundesliga games through yellow card accumulation suspensions than any other player in the last 4 seasons.

Opinions. I think Gustavo is a much better tackler and would be more suited as a dm in our system.

Would of thought you wouldn't be posting in an arsenal forum

Well it's a football forum, just an arsenal thread.

Besides, there isn't enough traffic in the Spurs thread :cry: :lol:

YOU CAN ONLY COMMENT ON THREADS PERTAINING TO THE CLUB YOU SUPPORT!

:lol:

Now linked with 18 yo "next Cristiano Ronaldo" and UAE youngster :-k
Wenger still loves the projects. Same old transfer window 8-[

Then it might surprise you that Fellaini made more tackles per game last season despite playing in a more advanced position (where it's generally harder to make alot of tackles).

And got booked less as well :-k

¿por qué no tenemos las dos cosas?

Because Arsenal won't spend that kind of money. Duh.