No, the argument is 'won' because everything you've come up with to try and prove it shouldn't be a penalty, has been completely shut down.

-You claimed Reina got the ball. That's just laughable.
-You claimed he has a right to go for the ball. He does. That doesn't give him the right to trip Odemwingie up, without getting the ball.
-You claimed Odemwingie had the lost the scoring opportunity. Completely irrelevant.
-You claimed Odemwingie had lost possession. Also irrelevant.

Too good Funky. I am now thinking Afro really has been taking the piss. I mean Reina won the ball? :lol:

Keeper comes out, misses ball, makes contact with striker.
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By all of your logic, this is a penalty.

Is Afro on drugs?

I'm not sure what's worse. That you're seriously trying to compare something that happened in a professional EPL match, to something shot on a camcorder at a local match...Or that in that video, the keeper collides with one of his own players and doesn't touch an opponent anyway.

:lol: :lol: :lol: Tears in eyes.

I don't think Afro sees the players in black on the post. He must think the black team is attacking.

1) The rules are the rules, regardless of the level. But this is an example of the scenario, not an example of the rule.
2) :roll: Fucking watch it again, he makes contact with the player who stands over him on the way down.

Edited by afromanGT: 6/4/2011 08:21:45 PM

I don't even know why you're bringing up corners. That's irrelevant. Here's something that is relevant:


Fin.

Page 32 of FIFA's rules of the game is Law 11, the offside rule.

But what you're saying is that the 'keeper isn't entitled to play the ball if he doesn't make contact with it. You're saying taht if the above video had happened in the EPL then it would be a penalty, under Law 12, section 1.3 "jumps at an opponent".

Page 32 of this link: http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/generic/81/42/36/lawsofthegame_2010_11_e.pdf is Direct Free Kicks and Penalties. I'll happily screenshot it to show you.

But a keeper at a corner is jumping for the ball, not at the player.

EDIT: Which again, is completely irrelevant to Reina tripping Odemwingie, but if you want to keep arguing this, i'm happy to oblige.

Edited by Funky Munky: 6/4/2011 09:21:04 PM

Reina clearly jumped at the ball. Your differentiation of the tackle is whether or not he remains perpendicular to the ground? What?

Edited by afromanGT: 6/4/2011 09:30:33 PM

#-o

That's not what I said at all. Forget it. I don't care anymore. You're just going to drag this around in circles and completely skip over the original point at hand. Under the laws of the game, Reina tripped an opposing player in the box, without touching the ball. That's a penalty. Full Stop. End of. Whatever other crap you want to drag in to this is meaningless, and I'm not going to waste my time responding to it.

I'm not taking it in circles, you haven't told me the difference between the two scenarios. Reina and the keeper in the aforementioend video both jump at the ball, miss and make contact with an opposition player. Not only did you never answer the original question (Is that a penalty?) but you haven't differentiated the two scenarios.

The corner has absolutely nowt to do with this argument.

1. Did Reina trip, or attempt to trip the player - YES

You can't argue that point. Stop bringing anything else into it.

Did Reina trip, or attempt to trip the player - YES.

Can you argue that point? Can you seriously say that Reina did not trip or attempt to trip Odemwingie?

Afro. Cast your mind back a few weeks. The Carragher tackle and the Evans tackle, you said they are two different incidents. Keep to that train of thought mate.

Also, have you changed your mind on the incident?

For the past few days you have argued Reina didn't touch him...

The contact was incidental. Reina is entitled to play the ball, as long as he doesn't play the man there typically isn't an issue. Why there is here is ridiculous.

What is the difference between the corner and Reina?

Reina didn't make contact with Odemwingie, Odemwingie made contact with Reina. Contact from Reina to Odemwingie was incidental. Odemwingie to Reina was intentional.

Easy, the corner video wasn't a foul, Reina's was.

I don't really see why there's any debate. The ball goes past Reina who then kicks out at Odemwingie's leg.

No it wasn't. The ball goes past Reina and only AFTER the ball is past him does he kick out at Odemwingie.

It was a penalty, get over it

This. I really don't see how there can be any debate over such a clear cut penalty.

I'll admit I hadn't watched a replay until today, and going by Afro's ranting on it I was expecting some really contentious 50/50 call not some 100% nailed on pen :lol:

Agger ruled out for the rest of the season with a knee injury.

He doesn't 'kick out' at odemwingie. He's sprawled on the pitch when Odemwingie 'trips over' him.

Incidental contact is made with the opposition player when the keeper is playing the ball in both cases. So I ask you again, what is the difference?

Peachy. Kyrgiakos at CB the rest of the season. We could still end up in a fucking relegation battle with him out there.

Go to bed Afro, you are not helping your case.

And you're not answering my question. You claim I've got no idea what I'm on about "Because the ref says so" or "Because this happened", but you're not actually rebutting any of my rhetoric.

Geez everyone obviously afro is right. Afro is never wrong everyone else is wrong :roll:

Guest, if you don't have anything worthwhile to say, don't bother saying anything at all. Baiting for a fight is just going to get you a long holiday.

It's okm it's only his third 'warning' this week. He's got another two left in him.

I'm a little confused with this LeBron James thing, does he actually get any kind of voting say in things or what?