No to Owen. U dont go there and get welcomed back with open arms. Don't care who they are

Owen can GAGF. I'll be appalled if we sign him. Fuck that.

If the rumored team is true then I'm stoked. Hope Sahin has a blinder.

Which is:
Reina; Johnson Skrtel Agger Enrique; Allen Sahin Gerrard; Sterling Borini Suarez.

Edited by spathi: 2/9/2012 09:17:35 PM

Lol did you not see what he did there? "stoked"

My starting lineup is spot on apparently.

Both lineups.

Liverpool Starting XI :Reina, Johnson, Skrtel, Agger, Enrique, Allen, Sahin, Gerrard, Sterling, Borini, Suarez.

Liverpool Subs : Jones, Carragher, Shelvey, Downing, Henderson, Kelly, Coates.

Arsenal Starting XI : Mannone, Diaby, Mertesacker, Vermaelen, Arteta, Podolski, Giroud,Cazorla, Jenkinson, Oxlade-Chamberlian, Gibbs

Arsenal Subs : Koscielny, Santos, Walcott, Gervinho, Ramsey, Coquelin, Martinez

Sigh.

+1 :(

Liverpool actually play really well, they just lacking that finisher.

Yeh thought they were quite good. Same problems though, can't finish and Johnson again, I say it time and time again, too high up the pitch, had no chance of catching Podolski.

Games don't get any easier in the coming weeks for you though.

Wasn't just Johnson. It was Johnson and Enrique being so far up the pitch and leaving Skrtel and Agger in a two-on-two. One or the other, and because the ball was being played on the right when Gerrard lost it, it should have been Enrique.

Having said that, 4-3-3 wasn't going to work against an Arsenal who chose to play it narrow, and starting Sahin in this for his first game wasn't the smartest idea, because he had zero impact. Looked too nervous. Didn't take an obvious shot on when he could have, and that was about all he did. Taking off Borini for Downing when Joe Allen did fuck all wasn't the smartest idea.

Rafa was the best choice for this job, but NESV had to go and make some bizarre decision about a young manager or some bullshit like that. Then to send out Carroll on loan and fuck up the Dempsey transfer, trying to play hardball for a player like Dempsey? What a joke. The damage they'll end up doing if they don't stop thinking they know the club and the league is enormous. We'll go the way of the Red Sox, only without the trophy.

Their decisions are turning out to be like their new kit - falls apart in the wash.

Allen was our best player, and has been in every game he's played. I can't believe you're criticizing him.

Edited by imnofreak: 3/9/2012 10:51:21 AM

I know it is easy to say in hindsight but this draw was not nice for Liverpool. With them trying to play a new style to have your first 3 home games to be against 3 top teams in the first 5 rounds is pretty hard as they haven't had a good chance to build any momentum. The way they have played in the last two games they could have beaten many teams (lower teams would have played very differently at Anfield though) and if they had 6 points from three games there would be heaps of confidence around the club but instead questions are being asked all over the place. I am starting Liverpool at 7th and so far they are playing like a team who will come about 9th so below par but not terrible.

In this game? He was barely present. Sterling had an outstanding first half, but Gerrard was easily our best player through the whole game. Downing had a good game from when he was brought on, but Allen did nothing much more than string a couple of passes together this time.

If Allen was so good, then why did it take bringing Shelvey on to make the midfield come alive properly? Maybe it wasn't Allen's fault - being paired up with Sahin might not have been great for him - but he was fairly anonymous.



Hey - woah. That's English for stop a horse. What's this about new style? There's nothing new about the passing game at Liverpool. There's something new about people suggesting that Liverpool don't play the possession game, but there's nothing new about playing that game at Liverpool.

What we don't have is what we've always head - a Rush, a Fowler, an Owen, a Toshack. One of them. We should try one. Might work wonders.

Edited by Dizzy_Red: 3/9/2012 11:13:09 AM

Really? I thought Gerrard was poor.

Sterling was fantastic but faded in the 2nd half (as he tends to do)

It took Shelvey coming on because Allen is not an attacking midfielder. He does his job (superbly well). His passing completion this season in the EPL games has been 95%, 93%, 93% (I think). He is so cool under pressure, forces turnovers, very nimble and fleet footed, two great feet, honestly he's just brilliant. Best player this season (though he hasn't had much competition unfortunately)

We do need a striker though. I would switch Borini and Suarez. Suarez is better when he can turn and face defenders, not when he's up top on his own.

I knew you were gonna say that - so my question is why were we so poor defensively? We were terrible. It was like Lucas had just gone off, not like Allen had been on from the start. The centre of midfield was a mess. Gerrard's forward runs - followed by Shelvey's forward runs after Sahin went off - were the only appealing aspect of the game. Looked like they tried to rotate, but Allen and Sahin going forward were appalling, and until Shelvey came on and Allen was forced back. Result: Podolski scores.

Nothing worked and Allen and Sahin were at the centre of it failing to work, which is why Arsenal stayed narrow.

Midfield was a mess? You guys dominated the midfield for the best part of 60 minutes (but then heads went down)

Allen played very well - only criticism being that cazorla was left in open space on quite a number of occasions. You can't blame him for the goal though, nor anyon else for that matter - Gerrard gave up the ball easily and Arsenal broke at pace, not much you can do about that when you're in the process of launching an attack in the opposition half.

Sahin will be great. He is as technically good as Allen, but plays a bit higher. Once he gels with the team he will be good value in linking defense & attack.

Arsenal were comfortable when Liverpool had the ball.

There's many good and bad points posted above BUT TBH through the 1st half we did enough to score 2-3 goals, converting would have changed the whole game NO ?
Borini had a couple of genuine opportunities that he didn't even make the keeper work for - then on another good attacking raid nearing the box he had SG to his right perfectly in the clear for a cracker shot and he takes it himself not hitting the ball sweet #-o
All in all we are playing good football but getting caught due to pressing so high which no doubt catchs you once possesion is lost.

Not buying a genuine STRIKER is going to test the boundaries the coming weeks #-o

That was more what I was trying to get at

Speaking as an outsider... Gerrard had a stinker, Allen looks ok so long as he's not required to actually advance the play, zero threat up front (letting Carroll go after you've already off-loaded Kuyt, crazy).

Suspect you'll be signing Michael Owen during this international window. Enjoy.

We wont sign Owen.

Anelka and Drogba have been released from Shanghai... :P

Have they been released though? There's a lot of conjecture but no one seems to know - and cruel fact is, if they were still under contract at the time the transfer window closed, they can't go anywhere in Europe.

Owen on the other hand is a free agent and Brendan Rodgers likes him...

:lol: - mind you this is the SUN ! what a joke though, why hadn't BR bought a striker during the transfer opening ?

BRENDAN RODGERS wants Michael Owen and Didier Drogba in a desperate bid to solve his striker crisis.

Liverpool were short of firepower in yesterday’s defeat by Arsenal.

Boss Rodgers admitted: “I’ve a very small group here, there were 19 players training yesterday with some young players among them.

“Any player I believe can improve the squad, I will look at — there’s absolutely no question about that.

“I cannot say no to anything. I have to look a ways to change the group. We need reinforcements.”

Drogba was released by Chinese club Shanghai Shenhua yesterday.

Former Liverpool striker Owen is a free agent after being let go by Manchester United.

Liverpool allowed £35million striker Andy Carroll to join West Ham on a season’s loan before the transfer window closed on Friday.

Chelsea legend Drogba and Owen can join clubs after the deadline as they are unattached.

Rodgers was asked whether the club’s American owners would meet Drogba’s big wage demands.

He admitted: “I will have to ask the question, won’t I?

“The reality is we need reinforcements. But we have to concentrate on the players who are here.”

Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4517646/Michael-Owen-and-Didier-Drogba-Brendan-Rodgers-in-bid-to-solve-striker-crisis.html#ixzz25N9iTjky


Edited by M.L.: 3/9/2012 01:11:14 PM

Your lot aren't playing bad just can't finish. Also think its time you invested in a new keeper.

They definitely need a keeper who's going to challenge Reina. He was horrible last night. His distribution was shocking and thanks to Webb being generous with the fouls he was let off with a few fumbles.

A lot of praise for Shelvey, and while a lot of it is deserved, he weas good. I think he also deserves some criticism. Our 2nd goal only came about because he gave up tracking Cazorla.

Yeah. He's very poor defensively, but he's an excellent attacking midfielder. I wouldn't mind seeing him played instead of Stevie. He's got goals in him, for sure.

Yeah, that shot he hit near the end that forced a great save from Vito was an absolute rocket.

Yeah. I remember when he went on loan to Blackpool he scored a ton of goals in a short amount of time.

I'd drop Gerrard tbh. He's been very average.

Next game I'd probably go:




Maybe replace Sahin with Stevie. I just think he needs to be dropped, give him a kick up the ass.