I'm happy to give him another season. The most important thing for the club is to plan for long-term, sustained success and not go down the "quick fix" route like certain teams in London and Manchester. Winning a single EPL title is not worth it if the following 25 years are just the same as the 25 years after 1990- look at Blackburn's fall from grace after 1995, or even Leeds who have won a title more recently than Liverpool! I'd rather spend another few seasons trophy-less and properly rebuild so that if/ when success comes again, it's consistent. Arsenal went 8 years without a single item of silverware and I was critical of the club sticking with Arsene Wegner that whole time, but their more recent success (and form) suggests that perhaps it's been worth the wait- and Emirates is nearly completely paid off as well!

IF, however, Liverpool start slowly again and BR makes dubious signings and December sees the squad mid-table (or lower) then FSG should make a serious ploy to bring Rafa back. I do still have questions about Rafa's tactics against low-ranking teams, but aside from that he proved himself as being a manager who the players believed in and a manager who made a habit of getting results against title rivals or in big matches. His absence had everything to do with the Hicks/ Gillet clusterfuck and nothing to do with his inability as a manager. He remains very popular amongst the staff, players and supporters at Anfield and returning him as manager would be a smoother transition than pretty much any other decent manager on the market. Furthermore, I think he'd jump at the chance to get another shot.





Edited by Captain Haddock: 23/4/2015 02:24:19 PM

Two very disappointing results. Could have closed the gap to 2 points going into the weekend and at least kept the pressure on the teams above. Seems we've given up on the race for top 4 and have made a head start in the race to avoid the Europa League!

I actually think we need the Europa League next year. I think we've played 15 more games this season than we had at this stage last year and it shows. The squad needs to be able to cope with the extra games if we want long term success.

Not taking the piss (too much) but don't you think this is about where Liverpool belong (in regards to the modern game and teams). With the exception of a freak season last year, 6th or 7th is about right for Liverpool. Have seen Liverpool fans have the debate of a 'par' season and I have to agree that it's about their level.

Can't see Rodgers taking them any further.

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Edited by jlm8695: 29/4/2015 03:09:55 PM

I don't.

We should be fighting for top 4 every season, especially given the money spent in the past 12 months (let alone the years proceeding it).

Hindsight is 20/20 and optimism is free.

We could go through the arsenal thread and re-count the pages of "arsene has to go" followed by "he's a genius" or "Ozil is shite" to "he is the best player in the Prem" but I don't have the time nor the inclination.

This. Liverpool have the resources available to be top 4 most seasons, and serious title contenders perhaps 1 in every 3 seasons. The biggest problem in 2014/15 has been a) Loss of two major goal scorers (Suarez permanently, Sturridge for virtually half a seasons' worth of games) and b) Poor recruiting.

The lack of drive and enthusiasm the past few games has been notable, but I'll wait until December before I make a further judgement on BR's long-term future at the club...

But in the last 15 years Liverpool have only finished in the top two three times, in the four years prior to last season's challenge you had finished 7th, 6th, 8th, 7th but I see so many Liverpool fans on other sites saying they only need a couple of signings to 'get back to the top' and I just don't get it. I think last year Liverpool played above themselves and had a genuine superstar in Suarez, plus they were aided by United having their worst ever PL season, Chelsea were shit by their standards and Arsenal were fairly average too, that was all the pieces coming together for Liverpool and it will be years before they get another chance like that IMO.

I'm not trying to take the piss but I have to agree with Busby, the days of Liverpool being a top four lock were before the rise of City and even Spurs have improved a lot since then, 5-6 seems to be where Liverpool is at these days but I do agree in saying they have the resources to do better than that, for the sake of our rivalry I hope they do too.

No team bar Chelsea has been great this year either really and the top 4 are likely to have less points than last year.

I don't think anyone (on here) is suggesting we should be a lock for top 4 every year but we should at least be fighting for it. If you miss out on the last day of the year then so be it but we shouldn't be out of the race with two months of the season to play for.

Delighted for Gerrard to get one last goal in front of the Kop, and a match winner too. He deserves it.

Only 3 more games. I guess Utd are technically catchable but they'd have to fail to win at Palace next week and then lose to Arsenal. If we won our two games coming it would be on but I doubt we will.

He may yet score one more at home ???????
3 huge games left - when arn't they this time of the season.
Boys have to step up every single minute these games, thats all I want to see from them no matter the result.

So is #RodgersOut a thing yet?

Nope.

BB poking away :lol:

And you had your invisibility cloak on in the United thread.

Just came in to say hi :)

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/memphis-depay-rodgers-claims-liverpool-9213523

Surely he must be sacked? Fuck me sick of this shit.

Depay is in another class to half these muppets.

Although there are reports he was just putting on a brave face, which seems believable given his false promises.

Pressure on BR yet or give him another season?

-PB

There's definitely pressure but he's got more time from me.

I'd assume next season is make or break? Anything but at least top 4 wouldn't be good enough surely?

It depends on how realistic Liverpool's expectations are IMO, the last time Liverpool consistently made the top four was before City joined the party so putting that as the benchmark is a bit tough considering the quality of competition they have.

A committed, in-form Liverpool side would edge out a cashed up City side the majority of the time. The biggest problem City have to counter is that money will buy you many things, but it doesn't buy a culture for the players to buy into. For the things LFC are lacking right now (competent striker, competent defensive players, manager with successful big-game experience) players who come to the club are well aware of the culture that exists at the club and the expectation for success from the supporters.

The problem with City is that they keep chopping and changing managers too often. As a result, the side is too hot-and-cold. This is a mistake Chelsea made for quite a while and only now have they seemed to realise that having a manager like Jose, long-term, helps to establish a culture within the team itself. The biggest thing for Liverpool is getting off to a better start next season. Ultimately, it's what cost them the title in 2013/14 and probably a CL spot this season. I give BR until the next transfer window/ Christmas and if the team aren't aiming up (without exceptional circumstances) then FSG are welcome to begin looking for a new manager as far as I'm concerned...

yep fair enough comment imo as well and in saying that its only to do with $$$$$$ being well spent.
MC have been in the top 4 since 2010 - spent shed loads more than us thats for sure, gains a far better overall player.
Over those 4 yrs we have squandered on quite a number of duds putting it mildly (locals) - that is part of difference.
What this season could have been having not taken Barca's $ for starters.
BR has to recruit farfar better in the off season but just as I know in my business having association with large certain corporates comes down to how much FSG is willing to spend ??? - knowing a certain company here involved heavily in x sport and x team, they could be top 4 every season for eg but they won't put anymore of their $$$'s in (they have the equity believe me) but happy for other co sponsers to kick in more and more than using their own.
In BR we have typically as any team management issues, be it tactics/selections/drafting players etcetc but the big picture is unless the owners are willing to open their bank account every coach/gaffa is the go to person on why have you failed but so has has every team out of the top4 (mind you your compensated finishing 2 3 4 making CL and gaining the $$$ benefit, today that is a win to a degree go figure) - $$$ wins trophys today.
We have been disappointing last 5yrs exception being last where we competed and beat those above so we are close, yes sydcro as long as BR buys better bolsters up our front and backline my expectations are top4, time will tell as always.

WE'RE TOP OF THE [size=1]fair play[/size] TABLE!!



Edited by imnofreak: 11/5/2015 03:36:39 PM

Sterling sounds like he will be gone in the off season.

Rogers has some massive recruiting to do.

-PB

He's a cunt and can fuck off.

We'll sign Lacazette, Kovacic, Icardi and Aubameyang and win the league in 34 rounds!!! \:d/ \:d/

And defend our fair play award!

I read something that made me laugh and cry on the LFC boards



The worst part is it literally wouldn't surprise me :lol:

Sterling gonez.

-PB