Good to see an analysis from a cricketer of Williamson.

Southee was bowling the majority of balls at circa 135.

Then a ball from him was recorded at 150 kph.:?

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I don't often condemn players, but given Marsh has a First Class batting average of circa 40, or below , and is an old player, it seems highly unlikely he is going to improve at this late stage of his career.

I've seen both bowl in the Shield recently at Bellerive.

At Bellerive, Behrendorf's teammate, Simon Mackin bowls better. Although Mackin is a grunter, with a very open chested, front on action.

A few weeks ago, Bird wasn't up to Test cricket. He could've improved after the last game when Tassie played NSW and won.

Bird has an over the top action, extracting some decent bounce with his height. He looks like he can bowl some lengthy spells.

Was hoping Bird or Behrendorff would be picked. :(

Shaun Marsh back in the team, collective groan.

-PB

The Marsh brothers wouldn't get a game for NSW or Victoria IMO.

CA have been cotton wooling this guy for so long makes you wonder if he will ever make it

Pattinson isn't ready yet for Test Cricket. I would've brought him in for the Boxing Day test. This game is too early. His got 2 Shield Games before the Boxing Day Test.

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22 wickets at 17, away from home against the number 1 side in the world who had lost only one of their last 19 tests.

Not only was his 12 wickets in the first test a career best but its probably one of the greatest ever bowling performances of the modern era.

But yea whatever mate he was pretty average aye. :oops: :oops: :oops:

drawing bore coming up

Now that I say this we'll prob roll NZ in 20 overs, but could Steve Smith have been any more uninspiring with that declaration. Couldve at least dangled the tiniest carrot to entice them into having a dip.

Showing how little cricket you watch with that statement.

Yup, good one curators @ the WACA.

No wonder you won't get any more international tests.

-PB

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Inside job to get Mitch to retire!

-PB

I know I said it before but I would much rather see a test over and done with in 3 days than a drawn out 5 dayer with no result.

We need proper pitches back. What ever happened to the pacemans paradise of the waca

yeah article In the SUN today going with the retirement angle.

lol Fox running some New Idea styled article about Mitch J supposedly retiring after this test.

Wtf?

-PB

I'm talking about now, not over the course of their careers. I agree that, career-wise, AB De V, Amla and Younis Khan are better (obviously Williamson hasn't been around as long).

But that's not what I'm talking about. I'm asking right here and now who is better?

AB De Villiers and Younis Khan, perhaps. That's about it. Cook isn't in the same class as that lot. Very good Test batsman who has scored some ripping centuries and plays a lovely cut shot and pull shot. But he has had basic weaknesses with his forward defensive stroke in the past. Against Australia, he has had about one good series in about five or six series.

The fuck dude?

-PB

Not sure if serious, I'd say AB de Villiers, Amla, Cook & Y Khan are all ahead of him at this stage on longevity, performances against the top nations (Aus, Eng, Ind & SA) as well as their performances away from home.

I'd say even Matthews deserves to be in this conversation but he plays a very different roles to these guys.

Don't get me wrong I'm a huge fan of Williamson and it will only be a matter of time until he is the greatest imo but he needs to go to Eng, Ind & SA and score more runs first.

So once Mitch retires who is next in line??

its a shame usman is not batting in the second innings

Allah was unable to protect him

Yep. He has a perfect technique.

If you play back both of his hundreds this series, he has smashed boundaries everywhere, but not a single one of them was hit in the air. It's absolutely incredible batting.

Poor form by Smith yesterday arguing the review. Throwing his toys out of the pram.

The DRS is for howlers, like BMac getting given out to a ball missing the stumps by 6 inches, not a ball 1mm off the bat.

When will Australia go back to not having every test with a drop in pitch.

Sydney used to be a spinners wicket. Warne and Stewie McGill used to turn it a mile and have a field day. WACCA used to be a pacemans paradise. Gabba you could swing it and cause trouble.

Id rather a test over in 3 days due to us doctoring pitches than a flat pitch giving us 5 day no results.

England did it for the ashes we need to get back to doing it

I would be surprised if the fastest Andy Roberts bowled was only 151, from what I have heard he is rated as being extremely quick.

Ian Bishop was probably very quick right at the start of his career but he had a lot of back problems and definitely did not maintain that speed throughout his career.

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Who's the best? If Williamson certainly isn't the best, who is then? AB de Villiers?

Other than de Villiers, I'm struggling to think of a better batsman. I don't think Smith is as good as Williamson. His technique is too unorthorodox and there are big question marks next to Smith's ability on wickets that aren't absolute fucking roads. Root is also very good but question marks next to him on when the ball is pitched up properly. Kohli at times, but at other times not that special.

Williamson is basically technically flawless, plays every conventional shot very elegantly, he's detects line and length quicker than just about anyone and thus is in position to time his shots perfectly very early (look at those pull shots he played), his powers of concentration are Dravid-esque and his temperament is superb. He can score big runs on wickets which all our batsmen (except Rogers) looked hopeless on. He scored a beautiful century at Lord's on a tough wicket.

And, of course, Williamson spends his winters playing county cricket in England. None of this T20 bullshit.

This is precisely why our best batsmen should be forbidden from playing in the IPL, they should be "cushioned" from the Big Bash and they should be encouraged to play county cricket.

Take the readings of speed guns with a grain of salt. Even today I suspect they're not always absolutely accurate, and in days gone, they probably were not too accurate.

I think the fastest delivery ever recorded was simply knocked down for an easy single. Something to remember :lol:

But, yes, express pace is an asset. It does need to be used properly.