Funky Munky
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This story is going to get worse before it gets better.
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The Doctor
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Quote:Peter, we hardly knew you, but you told the game like no other Greg Baum November 14, 2011
Tragedy far greater than 47 all out has struck cricket, and this should be a Roebuck column. But it isn't one, and can't be one, and never will be one again because the tragedy is Peter Roebuck. He is dead.
Two days ago, on the last morning of that bizarre Test at Newlands, he was at the coffee urn, talking intently with Allan Border about solutions for Australian cricket. Their coffees were cold. When the match ended, he filed his column and, since lunch was laid, he sat down to eat it and to mull over intractable problems in South African cricket with Tony Irish from the SA Cricketers' Association. He seemed his usual self, whatever that was.
The second-last person to see him alive was the ABC's Jim Maxwell, who had grown as close to him as anyone did. The last person was a policeman.
In these glimpses there were clues to Roebuck, cricketer, writer, broadcaster, coach, philanthropist, educator but above all, mystery. Clues must do; it is doubtful if anyone on earth knew him intimately. He chose it to be that way.
It is possible to say where he came from, but not where he belonged. After moving from England he kept houses in Bondi and Pietermaritzburg. He lived in three worlds because it suited him not to be tied down in one.
He was English by birth; in fact he captained England A once. He was an Australian citizen who cherished his work for Fairfax and the ABC. He played the Pom in Australia and the maverick in England. But he perhaps found his life's work in South Africa, where he created a community of 40 underprivileged South African and Zimbabwean boys and spent pretty much every cent he earned putting them through school. He talked endlessly about them. They were on his mind at the end.
Roebuck was eccentric. He was a tall, spare, fit man who lived an austere, almost ascetic life, not indulging in such fripperies as deodorant. His trademark was a tatty straw hat with a wide brim. It was one of few possessions found in his hotel room. On anyone else, that hat would have been an absurd affectation.
He was complex, intense, taut, edgy, opinionated, a little manic, mostly cheerful, sometimes broody. He was a contrarian, not for the sake of it, but because he always had another view. He spoke quickly, in a clipped tone, needing to get the thoughts out so that more could follow; his broadcast voice was his street voice. He did not do small talk, ever.
Cricket was his metier, but it did not confine him. He was widely read and supremely intelligent. He was also self-possessed, yet drew people to him. Women liked him, but often he was awkward in their company.
He was warm in his own way. Speaking to Fairfax's Chloe Saltau one day, he pointed to Shane Brown, the MCC's communications manager, and said: ''He has a nice face. You should marry him.'' She did.
He was social in cricket hours, solitary out of them. When the cricket caravaners headed out at night, mostly he would go to a cafe by himself, sit in a corner and read a book. He had the Pimpernel's ability to absent himself from a party suddenly without anyone seeing him leave.
He was a loyal friend who felt the pain of others as acutely as only the highly intelligent do. But he did not express empathy easily. He was flawed; of course he was. He fought to reconcile himself to his flaws, and it was the central drama of his life. He was tormented as only genius can be. The circumstances of his death attest to it.
He was estranged from his family and rarely mentioned them. He played for and captained a Somerset team that included such strong-willed luminaries as Viv Richards, Joel Garner and Ian Botham. He fell out with Botham, bitterly, and the repercussions lasted years. He excited spite towards him as only those who are different can. Botham delighted in marshalling malign forces in England against him. He was a dedicated but dour opening bat. He made a century against the all-conquering 1989 Australians, but it took him all day.
Intermittently, he was touted as England captain. He did captain an English XI one day, in a match against the lowly Netherlands - and lost. There was a second match and England won it, he always pointed out.
He understood cricket and cricketers. He would spot the deficiency in a field setting, or a kink in a batsman's technique, and explain it. He wrote columns and books on cricket while still playing it. His writing was distinct: fluent, perceptive, vibrant, sometimes whimsical, almost a genre. He was stinging in his critiques, but affectionate in his appreciations and wise in his perspectives. He wrote much, yet no two pieces ever were alike.
For years, he wrote his stories on the back of scrap paper in a longhand scrawl that was illegible even to him. The shape of the story would become apparent to him as he dictated it down the phone to a copytaker.At least twice, to meet urgent deadlines, he filed off the top of his head, after a fractious World Cup semi-final between India and Sri Lanka in Kolkota in 1996, and when Ian Healy hit a six to deliver Australia victory in a tight Test at Port Elizabeth in 1997. Both were instant masterpieces. Eventually, but long after everyone else, he acquired a laptop and a mobile phone. He was pleasantly surprised by them.
And suddenly, impossibly, he is no more. In the small hours of Sunday, in the foyer of a hotel in Newlands, while police and forensic experts went about their business, there was a wake. It consisted of Maxwell, Drew Morphett, Geoff Lawson, this reporter and another. We talked about the part of his life we knew, because about Roebuck, everyone knew only a part. We babbled, really, because we didn't understand. We never will. But dimly, we already knew this: covering cricket will never be the same again.
* Support is available for anyone who may be distressed by calling Lifeline 131 114, Mensline 1300 789 978, Kids Helpline 1800 551 800.
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/peter-we-hardly-knew-you-but-you-told-the-game-like-no-other-20111113-1ndvn.html
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Heineken
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footballfreak wrote:Decline of cricket in this country is great news. Hopefully the public will lose interest and start going to watch the football.:cool: You're an idiot. #-o
WOLLONGONG WOLVES FOR A-LEAGUE EXPANSION!

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Heineken
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That's a massive tragedy for Cricket fans across the world. A fantastic commentator and pundit. Really going to miss him this summer. Very strange, suspicious circumstances. I agree with Funky, I think there's more to this then what meets the eye. I don't think it was just a random suicide. Read an interview in the paper today with Jim Maxwell and he was the most shocked out of all - he had been with him earlier in the day and he hadn't shown an inkling of being suicidal, just another bubbly Roebuck at the cricket. But like I mentioned earlier, I feel there's more to this then what meets the eye. South African Police are not exactly the worlds most efficient law enforcement agency in the world. I'm not going to start conspiracy theories or anything, but its a massive shame nevertheless. Listening to the cricket on 702 this summers going to feel like something's wrong. RIP.
WOLLONGONG WOLVES FOR A-LEAGUE EXPANSION!

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RJL25
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skipppy wrote:The Doctor wrote:Roebuck, confirmed suicide... i just don't know what to say, i was listening to the cricket on thursday night was being interviewed by police for a sexual assault than jumped from the sixth story confirmed or hearsay? Sadly, I fear Funky Munky might be right, this story isn't pretty...
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RJL25
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footballfreak wrote:Decline of cricket in this country is great news. Hopefully the public will lose interest and start going to watch the football.:cool: Don't like cricket? Thats fine mate, but you need to learn a little something about timing! Have a look at what is being discussed at the moment... fool
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sydneycroatia58
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RJL25 wrote:skipppy wrote:The Doctor wrote:Roebuck, confirmed suicide... i just don't know what to say, i was listening to the cricket on thursday night was being interviewed by police for a sexual assault than jumped from the sixth story confirmed or hearsay? Well that's what being reported.
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Heineken
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"Highlights" of the thrashing in the first test against South Africa - these are the 2nd day wickets. Rather embarrassing. It starts off OK, 4 off the second ball. Hughes gets luck with a dropped catch...then it all goes majorly south from there [youtube]8wJag6AUZbY[/youtube] Anybody know when the second test is?
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Gooner4life_8
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My shit would have gone to a place I would never find it again if it wasn't for Lyon and Siddle. :lol:
Was talking to my mate about a how many times before in a history a number 11 batsmen has top scored in an innings or that a last wicket partnership has scored more than the rest of the team combined. :lol:
2nd test starts Thursday Heineken.
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The Doctor wrote:Roebuck, confirmed suicide... i just don't know what to say, i was listening to the cricket on thursday night i do. he was a sick fuck
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buddha69
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GOt both openers out in the first session Watson off with an injury
Patrick Cummins is making his test debut
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Funky Munky
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He's played 3 First Class games, and averages 46. What the fuck has Cummins done to deserve Test Cricket.
Oh wait..He's from NSW. Nvrmind.
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buddha69
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TBH Funky. I agree 100% He has raw pace but will be found out at Test level. Can think of 5 bowlers at least who should be ahead of him. Yes that includes Victorians
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Funky Munky wrote:He's played 3 First Class games, and averages 46. What the fuck has Cummins done to deserve Test Cricket.
Oh wait..He's from NSW. Nvrmind. Good call. But he doesn't look out of his depth tonight which is a great sign of things to come
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Good start by Australia in the first hour with 3 wickets and the big one of Amla. Lead currently 236
And for a guy with next to no first class experience Pat Cummins isn't doing himself any harm. 1/38 off 15 in the first innings. 3/54 off 23 in the 2nd innings.
Edited by sydneycroatia58: 20/11/2011 08:23:18 PM
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sydneycroatia58
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Bam, first ball after lunch Cummins gets Philander. Lead's 284
EDIT: DOUBLE BAM. Cummns has a 5 wicket haul and is on a hattrick after he cleans up Morkel's stumps.
Edited by sydneycroatia58: 20/11/2011 10:19:46 PM
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sydneycroatia58
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Have to say I agree with this comment from Cricinfo
"I think Cummins has single-handedly spelled the end of Johnson's test career."
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sydneycroatia58
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Make that 6 wickets for Cummins. Excellent performance on his debut.
310 to win, and it will have to be record breaking since the highest successful run chase at the Wanderers is 292 by Australia in 2006.
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sydneycroatia58
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Well done Watto, just the start we needed. Gone 2nd ball.
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sydneycroatia58
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:lol: Can always trust Phil Hughes to fuck it up.
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RedKat wrote:Is this the last time we see Ponting bat for Australia? I think regardless of what happens tonight, the least he deserves is a send off at a home series.
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skipppy
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Phil Hughes caught edging it to the slips, never thought I would see the day
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Kruse_Terrace
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Just a tad nervous. Damn rain, delaying the start of the game.
Cummins to hit the winning runs, to even further piss off Funky Monkey ;)
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sydneycroatia58
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Under 100 to go now.
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sydneycroatia58
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Tea: 6/222. 88 runs to win. Haddin 24* Johnson 6*
Edited by sydneycroatia58: 22/11/2011 12:33:43 AM
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Kruse_Terrace
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I think we're beaten, but stranger things have happened.
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ryan2008
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65 runs to win with 4 wickets remaining.
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Kruse_Terrace
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Only 50 now. GET IN
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sydneycroatia58
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Racing towards the target now.
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Kruse_Terrace
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If we lose a wicket now, we could be in trouble though...
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