Nah, I like Parkway, its just that they find them good, yet Prom Queen bad... Unless thats what you meant? I will have a listen to it eventually.

Bone Thugz and Harmony have been added to the Snoop and Ice Cube tour, and I'm really wanting in on it.

I'm also hyped on the new Kings Of Leon album. Should be good.

That is what I meant yes:p

So you find Prom Queen bad???

Not bad, just...bland...I tried to get into them, but they just didn't do anything for me. That said, I do see your point, the bands are very similar.

Neil Young confirmed for Big Day Out

I suppose its good news, but kinda brings the chance of Metallica, etc to very small one would think.

I'd rather see Metallica at their own show tbh. And if you read further down in the article, he mentions that Metallica are meant to be coming.



Also says that Coachella might be coming down here, which would be huge.
Oh, and GOD FUCKING BLESS THE FRENCH!!

I am very doubtful of it actually happening though...



Did I miss something? :?

A French CD store sold copies of Death Magnetic this morning, a full 10 days before the release date. Of course, its made its way all over the internet, and onto my hard drive. Been blasting it all morning, absolutely love it.

Ah fuck i got rid of Utorrent, I will have to find it. Good news though.

Metallica - The Day That Never Comes

One of the better songs on the New album. As for the album as a whole, absolutely love it. I mean, i know I'm probably looking like a massive fan boy and such, but god damn it, its just go good. I can't believe they managed to do it. Fighting with Slipknot for best album of the year for mine.

Just finished listening to that. Im about half way through the album and your right - its brilliant. Cyanides just kicked in at what seems a perfect point. Very impressive.

Rick Rubin deserves a fucking knighthood for this. He's brought Metallica back.

Sex On Fire - Kings Of Leon. GREAT Leon track. Will be all over JJJ within a month, no doubt.

:lol:I just had a look at my lastfm profile, Metallica have been played 187 times in the past 7 days. Adding to that total as we speak too:p

I've got to download the new album once I get everything else done this weekend. From what I hear it's pretty good asking around a bit.

Declaration by Bleeding Through has already topped it for me... Its not that I don't like Death Magnetic, its just that it doesn't seem to actually be going anywhere, they've just tried to remake their older stuff. Yeah thats all great, but its hardly ground breaking stuff (I can see Munky attacking me for these comments :P).

Nah, that was the general concensus of what I heard too. They were trying to sound like an old album. Which one was the topic of some debate, but they're not doing anything new. Which I guess is ok because it means they're going back to waht they know the did best.

And ofcourse is what all the fans have been screaming for after St. Anger, so I can see why they have done it, and I do like a lot of the songs. Im basically torn on the album tbh.

I'll be good...:twisted:

I agree with you though, they have just re-done what they used to sound like. But thats all they needed to do. I don't think they really need to try something new. Thats where St.Anger fell flat on its ugly face. IMO, they've succeeded in writing a damn good album, and yes it does sound like their old material. But, sounding like old-school Metallica isn't a bad thing:p
If the only criticism people can lay at it is, they sound like when they were really good...well...I'd say they've written a great album.

I think people were expecting Rick Rubin to take things in a big bold new direction while rekindling the old 'magic' so to speak and while the got the old magic happening, there is never going to be anythign even resembling a 'bold new direction' in an album that has been worked on by Rubin.

Yes and No, I think most straight up Metallica fans just wanted old-school Metallica back. They didn't really care about a new direction at all. And as for your other point, I'd say Vol.3 by slipknot had a fairly bold new direction on it. But otherwise, yeah, I agree with you.

I think everybody was wanting that, not just the metallica fans. It would signal a return to parity and level-headedness in the norm for the music industry, rather than the bullshit we've had to put up with courtesy of Metallica the last couple of years.
Rubin's reputation is for doing a lot to being out the traditional sound of a band, and while every now and again things get a little different (vol 3 by slipknot and Ghosts by NIN) you can still argue that there are very clear traditional sounding ties for the bands on both of those albums. His input on Ghosts saw sounds that haven't been heard since Pretty Hate Machine coming back out again. That said, What he did with Linkin Park's Minutes to Midnight was completely different and had few ties to the band's "traditional" sound bar two or three tracks. And U2's new album seems to be yet another 'reinvention' for the band (if you call their sound reinvented).

I'm gonna stick my neck out here and say what Load and Re-Load are both good albums. And I respect what they tried to do on St.Anger...they failed, but at least they tried. And i'd call the difference between Vol.3 and Slipknots previous albums a bit more than different. It has an acoustic track ffs. And as stupid as it sounds, they don't swear on it once. Which, considering some of their finer lyrics (:p), is a big change.

But i think what Rick Rubin is famous for is letting the band do what they want to do, and only giving minor, but highly enlightened input, not bringing about massive changes in a bands sound. Thats what makes him so brilliant...he doesn't try and input his tastes and beliefs on the album, he works around how they want it done.

Load and re-load, not to mention St Anger, were a fiar effort that failed to achieve what they wanted to achieve. If they had've succeeded we'd still be ranting about it probably though.
Volume 3 is subtitled 'the subliminal verses' for a reason after all...you were perhaps expecting it to be in your face and that 'sibliminal' was an oxymoron? AS for the presense of an acoustic track...Snuff is just about acoustic too, so it's not like the idea is a once off. And to be honest, I think if anybody (even rick rubin) tried to tell Corey Taylor how to record his album they'd be wearing some kind of mysical instrument across their face.
And even with his 'minimal input' to the recording process, his albums still bear a destinct "Rubin-esque" aspect to them and you can pick it.
Having said all that. Rubin's input on Linkin' Park's last album was to tell them that they were recording all wrong since they recorded like a Hip-hip artist (Drums, Bass, Rhythm guitars, Lead guitars, electronic instruments, backing vox and then main vox) as opposed to a rock band's recording technique (Drums/bass, Rhythm guitar, Vox/Lead guitar, other instruments). And he sent the band away to put together a massive sound bank before putting it all together in that fashion. Doing this completely changed the band's sound and recording technique.

Edited by afromanGT: 6/9/2008 03:16:29 PM

Load and Re-Load are just good solid rock albums. But they're not Metallica albums, thats the problem. All St.Anger needs is a new snare, some solos and just a tad better songwriting.

Haha, I wasn't expecting anything from Vol.3, considering it came out before i started listening to Slipknot, and was the first album of theirs i listened to. But i know alot of hardcore slipknot fans dislike it because its fairly different to their older stuff.

I wasn't saying that the acoustic track was a once off, just that it showed the different path they were taking with their music, which has been continued with on AHIG.

And yes, thats why I said his input, while minimal, is also enlightened. Alot of bands have talked about how he's only there once a week or so, but when he is, he provides alot of help and advice.

EDIT: I'm kinda lost here, I think we're agreeing with each other, but keep coming up with different points to agree with each other on:p

Edited by Funky Munky: 6/9/2008 03:19:59 PM

Anybody who records an album with that snare on their drum kit needs a good kick. And it's poor form for whomever mastered the album too.

I think it's not a 'different' path to to speak for slipknot to follow so much as a direction and brand that Corey wants to apply to his music because you see a similar sound with StoneSour's tracks Bother, Through Glass and Zzyzx Rd. and then that same contrast that tracks like Psychosocial and Gehenna apply in 30/30-150 and Get Inside. If anything it's a kind of mold that Corey seems to be confining himself to with all his music now. And traditionalists who were fans of stuff like People = Shit are getting all out of joint about it.

:lol: only there once a week but a massive help when he is there...sounds like Drew (one of my teachers). He spent a lot of time working on Minutes to Midnight though, because he was completely re-arranging how the band was used to recording he basically walked them through the process.

They wanted to record it as a 'raw' album, thats why. And Lars just needs a good kick in general.

While I do agree with, I think to say it's just Corey is a bit much. Theres 9 of them ffs, I'd say they've all decided to go down that path, rather than it just being Corey saying what goes. Read in an interview with Mick that discussed this exact point, and he said that its a band decision, and that they're all happy with it.

Yes...to record a 'raw' album you take the most shabby snare drum you can find and flog the fuck out of it. Then record with it with the one microphone trained on it. And then in the mastering stage don't EQ it at all. I'm not the greatest engineer of all time, but that to me is jsut plain retarded.

Tbh, I think Corey's the type of bloke who goes "We're doing it my way or I'm throwing a metrosexual hissy-fit and you can record the album without me". And the band just goes with it because they know how good his creative ideas can be.

I never said they did it well:p...But yeah, i respect that they tried something different.

I dunno, i never really saw Corey like that. But, there's no way we can really tell i spose.

I think anybody who responds to being told they're being weak at a concert by launching a microphone stand at the offender is probably a little highly strung. I mean, even Reznor doesn't respond that poorly to being heckled....

But in the end, he's a very tallented musician and that's all it boils down to. And Joey doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would just take shit and bend over either.