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			    secrethymn wrote:Interested to hear South fans' take on young Ibrahim. Where's he been played?  needs to learn when to release the ball to a player in a better posistion                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Lost 5-0 again ay? What's going on??                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Did remarkably well last week considering the injury/suspension issues...  Without O'Dor, Milicevic, Recchia, Petrovic, Krncevic and Taseski.  Same again this week, plus Trent Waterson.  Another outstanding performance was obviously too much to hope for.
  At least we did a little bit better than Springvale...  Dropped 9-0 by Heidelberg.                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Benjamin wrote:At least we did a little bit better than Springvale...  Dropped 9-0 by Heidelberg.  I'm not familiar with the current form of these 2 clubs. Was it like a 1st v Last match-up? What was the reason for such a heavy drubbing?                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Springvale 2nd bottom, 1 win this season. Heidelberg just outside the top 5.                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Does Ljubo know about this thread?                
			     				
			    The thing about football - the important thing about football - is its not just about football.  - Sir Terry Pratchett in Unseen Academicals For pro/rel in Australia across the entire pyramid, the removal of artificial impediments to the development of the game and its players. On sabbatical Youth Coach and formerly part of The Cove FC
                       
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Our outs all together are as follows:
  Ljubo Milivevic Carl Recchia Steve O'Dor Jesse Krncevic Sebastien Petrovic Trent Waterson Kliment Taseski Joe Keenan Yianni Galanos
  we went into Sundays game with 9 outs, 4-5 of which would walk into any other team.
  Ljubo and krncevic are meant to be back this week and hopefully O'Dor so should be competitive against Green Gully.
  But the big news is the players that South have lined up in the transfer window, some big names expected to move across as of Monday.                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    How many Greeks are in the South Melb team?
  and not including reserve players.                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Minimalistix wrote:How many Greeks are in the South Melb team?
  and not including reserve players.  Why? and does it really matter. It's all about winning and nothing else. Even with 11 Greeks playing, greek coach, greek music at h/t,  greek this, greek that etc etc won't make an iota of difference to our crowds. The VPL is for the 'hard core' supporters only.  I'd probably give it away if they started serving pies, cheap snags etc rather  than Greek souvlaki though!!                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    u didn't answer the question bro.                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Only 4 Greeks in the entire first grade :oops: :oops: :oops: 
                  
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    i think Jesse had 4 rounds suspension and he has 1 left 
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			    looks like jesse and ljubo are back this week o'dor and taseski maybe as well                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    fingers crossed
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			    fingers crossed
  hopefully we get some returns this week
  some big signings coming up
  atleast 3                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    any of them Greek?                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Minimalistix wrote:any of them Greek?  Is it relevant?  We are a football club, we look to field the best side possible, not the Greekest side possible. Signing only Greek players, or selecting Greek players ahead of others for no reason other than ethnicity, would be an enormous backward step.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    I still think South Melbourne could still be a competitive Club and still have more then 4 Greek players who are all bench warmers anyway.                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Minimalistix wrote:I still think South Melbourne could still be a competitive Club and still have more then 4 Greek players who are all bench warmers anyway.  But what would be the point? If South Melbourne, Oakleigh, Bentleigh, Northcote and Heidelberg all decide to pick only/majority Greek players, due to the lack of quality Greek players, you would create a false economy where average Greek players were paid more than good non-Greek players (not unlike the situation in which Australian players are often paid more than non-Australian players to play in the A-league because every team MUST have a set quota of Australian players). Again, why obsess over having 11 good Greek players, rather than 11 good players.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Olympic doesn't have 11 Greek players, we have 9, and 6 or 7 are starting XI and we are top of the table. It's disappointing that this was the biggest Greek Club this country has had, and now theyre reduced to 4 Greek players in the 1st grade and non of which are Starting XI.                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Minimalistix wrote:Olympic doesn't have 11 Greek players, we have 9, and 6 or 7 are starting XI and we are top of the table. It's disappointing that this was the biggest Greek Club this country has had, and now theyre reduced to 4 Greek players in the 1st grade and non of which are Starting XI.  Mate there are 5 Greek clubs in VICPL as opposed to 1 in the NSWPL.  So you guys get the cream.  Anyhow in your last match on the weekend v Bankstown, only 4 started.  Sydney Olympic: 1 Paul Henderson 2 Emmanuel Giannaros 5 Richard Luksic 3 Brett Studman 7 Phil Makrys 8 Chris Triantis (78’ 23 Takayuki Omi)  11 Robbie Mileski 19 David Gullo (65’ 9 Hussein Akil) 18 Jerry Kalouris 16 Peter Triantis 14 William Angel (87’ 4 Ibrahim Haydar)  Do you see my point? The best players should play irrespective of racial background.  If you want to see Greek players go back to Greece and watch the league live.  By the way, congrats on an excellent start to the season.  Edited by ralerasic: 13/5/2011 02:03:41 PMEdited by ralerasic: 13/5/2011 02:05:15 PM                
			    				
			                        
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    William Angel is Greek as well ;)
  5/11 players I'm happy with. 
  Thanks, we got a big game on Sunday against Syd Cro though.                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    At the end of the day bringing players from Greece is very expensive - as for those players born of greek Heritage in Australia - they are Australian with a greek heritage
  in football terms - all of smfc's list are all Australians,with a  Brazilian and Scott
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			    Do I really have to specify that it's bad u only have 4 bench warmers who are 'australian of Greek heritage'                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Minimalistix wrote:Do I really have to specify that it's bad u only have 4 bench warmers who are 'australian of Greek heritage'  How many Australians of Greek heritage in the current Socceroos? A-league? The talent pool for Australians of Greek heritage isn't huge.  I am sure SMFC are doing their best with what they have mate.  You can't just pick a player over a better player because of their heritage. Edited by ralerasic: 13/5/2011 04:41:18 PM                
			    				
			                        
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Minimalistix wrote:Do I really have to specify that it's bad u only have 4 bench warmers who are 'australian of Greek heritage'  What is more important to you for your club, winning trophies or having Greek players?                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    It's a balance. You're telling me in all of Melbourne, with it's huge Greek population, they can't just get a measely 8 or 9 players who are good enough to challenge for titles?                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Minimalistix wrote:It's a balance. You're telling me in all of Melbourne, with it's huge Greek population, they can't just get a measely 8 or 9 players who are good enough to challenge for titles?  I guess winning comes before politics to SMFC, and credit to them for that. It's what has made them one of Australia's most succesful clubs.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Bad loss yesterday. Played like crap tbh.
  Two penalties weren't penalties either imo. Second one was very soft.                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    We have definately hit a flat period I am sure we will bounce back On another note we are headed to Singapore again this year 1st game is in the second week of June http://www.espnstar.com/football/other-football/news/detail/item621858/RHB-renews-Singapore-Cup-deal/Geylang United vs Tampines Rovers  Home United vs Woodlands Wellington  Etoile vs Tanjong Pagar United  Gombak United vs Balestier Khalsa  Singapore Armed Forces vs Phnom Penh Crown  South Melbourne vs Albirex Niigata  Hougang United vs Harimau Muda A  Pattaya United vs Okkthar United Edited by chris: 15/5/2011 11:02:24 PM                
			    				
			                        
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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