Wanted- tips for coaching seniors - over 30


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Some people here coach senior men's teams.

I've had a few sessions with pretty good female adult senior players, but I haven't touched on senior male players, veterans of mixed ability, over 35s. I will be in a role where I will be taking some sessions with them in a club. The regular coach says they often think they know all there is to the game.

Many of them will be pretty one footed. I don't want to demonstrate and then ask them to perform technical stuff they perceive they are not capable of doing, but I still want them to develop technically as part of TIC.


Any tips from experienced coaches of senior players, particularly playing social football?








Edited by Decentric: 28/3/2012 12:31:59 PM

Edited by Decentric: 28/3/2012 12:45:18 PM

Edited by Decentric: 28/3/2012 06:17:55 PM
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Its social football ffs just let them have there fun.
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DB-PGFC wrote:
Its social football ffs just let them have there fun.




Fun and technical work don't have to be mutually exclusive, particularly if one improves.

It is also productive if a player at any stage of development does something different.

Technical work is done before 4v4 SSGs with specific aims.
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Get them playing games with specific aims. Eg- Two touches, shooting games, possession games etc. And if what you want to see isn't being done in the drill/game then change it up, adding players/changing rules/size of the area etc.

They're probably going to not react well to you attempting to teach them specific techniques, so you have to hide it in more game based stuff that they will enjoy and not view as teaching.
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Over 35's is more about getting away from the mrs, kicking a ball, having a beer and snag sanga after the games. Unless you have a first division team that wants to win champion of champions or a state cup then the footy is more a social gathering.

I played 35's for a few years and use to tell my mrs I went to a BBQ with a few mates and a footy match broke out. Stick to that way of thinking and you will have an enjoyable year.

Dump the serious coach attitude otherwise they will hate you more than hot beer.

Edited by Aussiesrus: 29/3/2012 08:53:06 AM
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Beer and lots of it. These guys are beyond redemption, let them just have some fun mate.
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well i would say to make it fun and keep them interested in training get some naked women involved, plenty of bending and make sure you have decent snags, sauce and COLD beer......
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batfink wrote:
well i would say to make it fun and keep them interested in training get some naked women involved, plenty of bending and make sure you have decent snags, sauce and COLD beer......


Is that before or after you drop the soap in the shower:d
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neverwozza wrote:
batfink wrote:
well i would say to make it fun and keep them interested in training get some naked women involved, plenty of bending and make sure you have decent snags, sauce and COLD beer......


Is that before or after you drop the soap in the shower:d



well i was sorta hoping the chicks would be bending over.....;)

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Thanks guys. I have a lot of useful tips and can avoid making a few mistakes.

I only have to coach them occasionally.


It is just that there is supposed to be some consistency in a whole club approach.







Edited by Decentric: 29/3/2012 06:33:52 PM
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krisskrash wrote:
Get them playing games with specific aims. Eg- Two touches, shooting games, possession games etc. And if what you want to see isn't being done in the drill/game then change it up, adding players/changing rules/size of the area etc.

They're probably going to not react well to you attempting to teach them specific techniques, so you have to hide it in more game based stuff that they will enjoy and not view as teaching.



I have a quite a few specific SSGs for them -shooting, passing, dribbling.


How do you think they'd respond to 1v1 exercises?

How do you think they'd respond to mere suggestions (demonstrations) of certain techniques to use in a 1v1 with limited pressure from defenders?

How do you think they'd respond to structural work, such as the defensive and midfield lines working against the attack?
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Aussiesrus wrote:
Over 35's is more about getting away from the mrs, kicking a ball, having a beer and snag sanga after the games. Unless you have a first division team that wants to win champion of champions or a state cup then the footy is more a social gathering.

I played 35's for a few years and use to tell my mrs I went to a BBQ with a few mates and a footy match broke out. Stick to that way of thinking and you will have an enjoyable year.




:lol:

Did your Mrs wonder why she was never invited?
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Aussiesrus wrote:

Dump the serious coach attitude otherwise they will hate you more than hot beer.



Not if they are Poms. I was just in England and Scotland, beer paradise. Except they serve warm beer.

Some enlightened publicans served chilled beer, but it caused many debates.
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thupercoach wrote:
Beer and lots of it. These guys are beyond redemption, let them just have some fun mate.



I seem to have a lot of friends willing to drink beer and wine without having to get hot and sweaty first!


Mind you one can't share beer with juniors and youth after training.
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batfink wrote:
well i would say to make it fun and keep them interested in training get some naked women involved, plenty of bending and make sure you have decent snags, sauce and COLD beer......



I know a women's split state league senior women's team who I was thinking of organising practice matches against, with the veterans not allowed to tackle.

I think this might motivate the old codgers, although it seems a disproportionate number of the female gender bat for the other side in football.








Edited by Decentric: 29/3/2012 06:36:20 PM
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I would say don't do it.
at best you will only be disappointed.

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as the saying goes, you can only coach whats in front of you. I would concentrate more on phase of play (attack vs defence) and a few set pieces

Europe is funding the war not Chelsea football club

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have a look here if you are short of ideas

http://www.footballcoachingcourses.com/

Europe is funding the war not Chelsea football club

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Hill sprints should work well.
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I'd wary I being too technical Decentric. You'll have some who could really play in their prime and who have nothing to prove or learn. They've been there and done it and as others have alluded to, they're there to have a bit of fun and a beer.

You'll also have terrible players who've never played in their life. My mates convinced me to play div 3 after I'd given up and I couldn't believe a grown man would pass across goals for an opposition player to tap in.

I also couldn't believe regardless of whether it was a 25 meter pass or a 3 meter pass the pace on the ball would be exactly the same haha ... these guys are beyond help.

Edited by JuveJuve: 2/4/2012 08:17:11 AM
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dirkvanadidas wrote:
have a look here if you are short of ideas

http://www.footballcoachingcourses.com/

great website
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JuveJuve wrote:
I'd wary I being too technical Decentric. You'll have some who could really play in their prime and who have nothing to prove or learn. They've been there and done it and as others have alluded to, they're there to have a bit of fun and a beer.

You'll also have terrible players who've never played in their life. My mates convinced me to play div 3 after I'd given up and I couldn't believe a grown man would pass across goals for an opposition player to tap in.

I also couldn't believe regardless of whether it was a 25 meter pass or a 3 meter pass the pace on the ball would be exactly the same haha ... these guys are beyond help.


Edited by JuveJuve: 2/4/2012 08:17:11 AM


You've seen me play then.
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Decentric wrote:
krisskrash wrote:
Get them playing games with specific aims. Eg- Two touches, shooting games, possession games etc. And if what you want to see isn't being done in the drill/game then change it up, adding players/changing rules/size of the area etc.

They're probably going to not react well to you attempting to teach them specific techniques, so you have to hide it in more game based stuff that they will enjoy and not view as teaching.



I have a quite a few specific SSGs for them -shooting, passing, dribbling.


How do you think they'd respond to 1v1 exercises?

How do you think they'd respond to mere suggestions (demonstrations) of certain techniques to use in a 1v1 with limited pressure from defenders?

How do you think they'd respond to structural work, such as the defensive and midfield lines working against the attack?


All jokes aside, what I'd suggest is that you keep it to SSGs and finish with an "all in" game. Occasionally I'd make the game "defence vs attack" to help them with a bit of structure, but otherwise playing is best IMO. Think of them as little kids with a beer addiction - just let them have fun, and it's beer instead of snakes after the game.
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You just don't get it do you, decentric.

Oh my. :lol:
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