You were just waiting for them to crawl out like cockroaches.

Well if u look at it beyond just where the US hegemony approach has led us...

There was a time...and its still possible to recapture it...when the United States was the leading light of liberty and freedom in the world. Now they are seen in many of these countries as warmongers who place the lives of the citizens of muslim countries as less than secondary to their own.

In fact the folks in muslim countries have quite understandably come to see themselves as considered UNPEOPLE by western countries.

The west under the US and NATO have ceded the floor to islamic radicals who these days are seen as standing up for the rights of their people. Which is on some level true, but on another obviously they are much worse than the US on issues of freedom and liberty. But ...when it comes to perceptions in the muslim world...understandably this is no longer seen to be the case.

Given the demographic shift in muslim countries ....which is the opposite to the west...they have massive youth orientated populations...so the opportunity is still there for some sort of liberty based revolutions in these countries. So far things like the Arab Spring have come along at a time when islamic radicals are in the ascendancy ...one can only hope its not gone too far in this direction.

The best thing the US can do for both their own safety and the long term prospects for peace globally, is to withdraw their military to a defensive posture. In fact if their policies continue on as is they are going to need to have more boots on the ground in their home country. I guess this is why they are beginning to now patrol the planet with a mix of drones and the dodgy intelligence that guides them.

I thought humanity had progressed past this. I really did. How anyone could be so stupid... so gullible... makes me weep.

The one thing that annoys me about people like this is that they think they are better than you because they "question" and they do not "mindlessly follow" like the rest of us sheep :roll:

I'm all for thinking for yourself, but this is taking it too far. There's always got to be these assholes who think they are special for questioning events such as Sandy Hook and the Boston bombing. People like Alex Jones and this Chris Spivey guy need to be removed from the public forum. Unfortunately, this will give "truthers" more ammunition to attack their evil government who are trying to take away their rights before some Alien Invasion or something. :roll:

/rant

Edited by 433: 26/4/2013 11:10:58 PM

Yeah! They hate the West cos they're Western and shit, fuck freedom, fuck the USA, down with the white man! :-"

Yeah, because the USA is the real evil in all of this :roll: :roll:

I wonder if they'll like my comment :lol:

Oh my freaking god so much of it is retarded. Like. Jesus.

I don't even. Nope.

I'm not being funny but can we have a bit of a warning about these things before you post them? This isn't the sort of thing I'd like to see ever, let alone before twelve.

Goddamn I hate humanity. I mean, seriously. The fact ANYONE believes stupid shit like this makes me cry.

OK then...the West gets out of Muslim countries and Islam gets out if the West. Fair trade?

In other breaking news: Ireland nation of drunks, America is fat and the sky is blue.

I think we both know that the number dead had nothing to do with the coverage of both of these events. One was a terrorist attack that took place in a global city at a huge event. The other took place took place in a war zone.
I'm not at all trying to say that the bombing in Iraq isn't tragic, in fact I'd say its more tragic given how many casualties there were. However, it isn't worldwide news that a bombing took place in Iraq.

Another conspiracy theory. (Viewer Discretion is advised)
http://www.chrisspivey.co.uk/?p=11184


Edited by shaker: 27/4/2013 02:59:21 AM

Public interest in the West about a Western terrorist attack... I'm sorry, you've picked this moment because you wanted a bit of attention; it is a wholly unfair comment to say that public interest is disproportionate in the wake of a terrorist attack on Western soil. The social and political juxtapositions just don't arise with Middle Eastern attacks.

Blacka, I agree completely, but the motive for the attack, and any resultant discussion on policy, should be saved for a little while yet. I think what frightens me is that one group of people seek to, "fight them so we don't have to," the other thinks we should intervene to the (apparent) benefit of these people because, "we know what's good for you." Let them forge their own path. If a despot has to be removed for murdering its citizens, let international law dictate.

Well anyone who doesnt think that the presence and actions of US, Nato and Israeli military in Muslim countries has an affect on continuing a never ending cycle of bloodshed is deluded. Most of these attacks are a response to something...the why it happened always gets lost in the what and who.

The US needs to withdraw its military to a purely Defensive posture...for decades they have been on an offensive play to borrow their sporting lingo. Smarter would be to pull back and leave the world to its own business.

Lyndon Johnson was right to warn of a military industrial complex...the world is their playground at this point...solutions to problems they create hence the cyclical nature of it all, never ending till some president withdraws either by choice or necessity. Hopefully it doesnt come to the latter...i guess that is the thinking of militants, either try and bankrupt them first or failing that fight the battle on their turf. The reverse of Bush and Obama's response to 'fight them there so we dont have to here'...

It's a fair comment to say that the public interest is disproportionate. The whole 'I'm a better human being' rubbish is RedKat's own hyperbole.

I'm sorry, but anybody who is saying "what about the brown kids" are just seeking attention. "I'm a better human being than you because I feel more sorry for the deaths of a larger number of people." Talk about picking your moments...

Having read the last few pages of this thread, there's so much wrong shit I'm not sure I even want to bother.

Seriously, it's like two kids arguing over who's "the bigger baddie".

Paints a pretty clear picture of the older brother being the main guy, but the younger brother has wrecked his life by helping him. Sad.

Cool story.

I won't hold my breath waiting to hear the same passion from you the next time the state of Israel kills some Palestinian kids.

THIS SO FUCKING MUCH

Erm, I get accused of Islamophobia and racism fairly regularly on ET when I bring up the shittier things that the Muslims are doing in the world.

So who are YOU kidding?

Well aren't you wonderful.

In the past two years as two evil sides in Syria have been killing civilians by the truckload you were silent. When Saddam was gassing Kurds you were silent. When the Iranian regime was killing civilans on the streets you were silent. When Iran, Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia execute people for "adultery" you're silent. When Al Qaida was massacring civilians in Mali - not a peep from you. Not the least bit of concern for the brown people.

But when the Muslims kill innocent civilians in Boston you try and come over all concerned for the brown people.

Who are you kidding?

Yes.

But a couple of Bostonians died, so let's show a little bit of respect. We can show some passing interest in the brown people next month.

You mean one of the 2000 civilians that were killed last month by the government and rebels??

Had a look at some of their posts... they embody everything people hate about America.

The picture isn't that bad... someone on my newsfeed shared a video of this guy being decapitated with a knife...

If you think that's bad, I have a few photos from Syria that you should look at.

They tracked him down and prevented any more fatalities. One day is a relatively short amount of time to find someone on the run who is armed and dangerous.