Sadly Ange's arrogance has outgrown his ability. Now it's one thing to play Barthelona esque football in the A league when you have control of the team 24/7 and the speed of the game is 1 mph, its another to do it in a crucial world cup qualifier playing against quality opposition when your cattle has the first touch of an elephant. Ange persists playing suicidal football from the back in the imaginary hope that someday it will suddenly click and we transform into Barthelona out there. How many goals and shaky moments do we need to concede before Ange realises his arrogant tactics are killing us and have jeapordised our chances of world cup qualification? My guess is there is no amount of goals because Ange is convinced he's a coaching demigod and is incapable of admitting he his philosophy, while ambitious, his implementation of it is deeply flawed and doesnt reflect the capabilities of the players. Only an idiot would continually play suicidal football from the back when we keep conceding goals and giving away possession and there literally nothing to be gained other than looking like a try hard Barthelona. We also look stilted in the final third, Ange seems to think if we just knock the ball around like Barthelona eventually a space will open up and we will score goals, the only time we look threatening is when we play direct.

Part of me hopes we dont automatically qualify, hopefully Ange will get sacked and we can get someone whose head isnt in their @rse and will get us playing football conducive to our strength. If we go to the world cup with Ange as our coach we will get absolutely slaughtered.

Completely agree.

Tony Popovic would be far better suited to the rigors of Asian WC qualifying. A strong defence, no bullshit passing out from the back at every opportunity and play on the counter. That's how you beat these teams.

Arnie In

Yup.

No Australian coach is currently good enough to be the NT coach. 

This. 

This. 

Australian national team coach is one of the best paying National team coach positions in the world we should be going for world class or just below that nothing less

Lol great minds think alike 

Agreed.
We need to go back to a foreign coach, one that can work with what they've got without being either of the two extremes (Holger or Ange).
Pim and Holger deservedly get criticism from their times in charge, but at least they got us to automatic qualification to the world cup.

I'm a goalkeeper coach in Holland ill voulenteer to teach Ryan positioning?

Does the positioning involve him being moved to the bench?

The interview with Ange just sums it up. He has no idea what went wrong and what to do. Just cause Arnie done alright Sydney doesn't mean he even close to the roos. He hasn't change at all since his CCM days and roos Asian cup.

Arnie would be a better choice than Ange at the moment. 

If Pim of Holger were in this position they would of been sacked 

I hated Pim and thought Holger was under qualified to coach Australia but they were both leagues ahead of Ange 

Next coach needs to be someone with Euro pedigree imo.

We've tried the Aussie made, home grown Vegemite way and it got us an Asian Cup but sadly we're teetering on the edge of not making the next WC now.

Time for fresh insight.

-PB

I'm with you as well.  It's nice to have a local if there is one good enough but there isn't. 

Anyway Ange will be there until the end of the world cup or until we fail to qualify probably 

Ahhh the daggers are out..
On the post game interview Ange looked like he was at breaking point .
It's sad it's come to this.He has done a lot for football in Australia.But his inflexibility looks like being his downfall.
We could easily have stacked the defence this game with fast wingers and Macca waiting for counter attacking opportunities,which would have come with Japan needing to win.We only needed a draw.
I can't say I'm looking forward to Arnie being National coach though.His style is very dutch and defensive.We will be getting monstered most games ,waiting for the one or two counter attacking opportunities.

I didn't see the post game interview, say anything interesting?

:)

spain has ruined ryan

Well said OP, pretty much sums it up.

Ange is as arrogant a coach as i have ever seen. He thinks he is Mourinho but in reality he is Steve Mcclaren.

No fecking idea on how create a team out of the players he has, he expects the players to suit his Barca type of setup which a total of zero of the players do for their clubs.
Sorry Postanoclue but you are a fraud

Ange makes our best players play badly.

City Sam,
He basically said he was dissappointed with the way we played,he took full responsibility for the result,looked down at the ground and seemed like he wanted to cry. The gravity of the situation seemed to catch up with hime.Before he kept saying we were going to qualify amd now it's out of our hands.So he couldn't continue with the same mantra and was left speechless as to what next.Simon Hill left it at that.

He looked shocked at the result and completely unable to comprehend what went wrong.

Is he the coach to take you guys through the play offs? 

Bozza for coach

I was crucified for bringing this up a few years back. Truth is the Asian cup (of which they beat average teams at home, and did lose to sk in group games anyway) papered over ange's cracks ewwwww but you get my point.

im in no way convinced saudi can pull off a winagainst japan with the pressure on, still alot of mind games to play out

I agree. I didn't notice it at the time, but lately I have been thinking the Asian Cup win was the worst thing that could have happened to Australia football at the time.

Ah okay, thanks for that.