Where does Riley McGree fit into the Socceroos line up


Where does Riley McGree fit into the Socceroos line up

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Since McGree is becoming the stand out player this year in the ALeague I can see him moving on to a european side next year and becoming a great player but where does he fit into the Socceroos line up? 
Is he back up to Rogic? Or Mooy? As attacking mid?
we still have Arzani to squeeze in over the next year and Hrustic as well.... these players look to become beast if they continue there form! 
Who gets pushed out over the next few years before World Cup?
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I think he could perhaps be a role player and slot into that Irvine kind of role when he played AMC. Like Irvine he is not a typical number 10. But funnily enough Arnold's sides have generally looked better when stuck with less creativity on the park and more of a disciplined/create pressure and convert efficiently type of style. If that makes sense haha. 

I think if he keeps on progressing, he could make that spot his and benefit from a player like Arzani out wide who will demand the ball, and blistering speed of Boyle on the other. 
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D_manu - 25 Nov 2019 11:12 AM
I think he could perhaps be a role player and slot into that Irvine kind of role when he played AMC. Like Irvine he is not a typical number 10. But funnily enough Arnold's sides have generally looked better when stuck with less creativity on the park and more of a disciplined/create pressure and convert efficiently type of style. If that makes sense haha. 

I think if he keeps on progressing, he could make that spot his and benefit from a player like Arzani out wide who will demand the ball, and blistering speed of Boyle on the other. 



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I see him more as a goal scoring box to box midfielder than attacking midfielder. He could play alongside Mooy or sub on for Mooy depending on the opponent or tactics.
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Tbone - 25 Nov 2019 1:35 PM
And Ikonomidis is another one to fit Into the forward 3! 
Forgot about him! 

Hard to see Ikon making it in with players like Hrustic, Mabil, Leckie, Boyle, Arzani and Borrello. 
He needs to make the next step up. 

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I see him more as a goal scoring box to box midfielder than attacking midfielder. He could play alongside Mooy or sub on for Mooy depending on the opponent or tactics.

I don't think this would work. Needs to be higher up. We need a player next to Mooy that takes a load off his shoulders in possession. Wouldn't mind seeing O'neil get a shot alongside Mooy against Nepal or Chinese Taipei.


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D_manu - 25 Nov 2019 1:59 PM
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Hard to see Ikon making it in with players like Hrustic, Mabil, Leckie, Boyle, Arzani and Borrello. 
He needs to make the next step up. 

Bocca - 25 Nov 2019 12:19 PM

I don't think this would work. Needs to be higher up. We need a player next to Mooy that takes a load off his shoulders in possession. Wouldn't mind seeing O'neil get a shot alongside Mooy against Nepal or Chinese Taipei.

Which O'neil?



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robbos - 25 Nov 2019 2:13 PM
D_manu - 25 Nov 2019 1:59 PM
Which O'neil?



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D_manu - 25 Nov 2019 1:59 PM
Tbone - 25 Nov 2019 1:35 PM

Hard to see Ikon making it in with players like Hrustic, Mabil, Leckie, Boyle, Arzani and Borrello. 
He needs to make the next step up. 

Bocca - 25 Nov 2019 12:19 PM

I don't think this would work. Needs to be higher up. We need a player next to Mooy that takes a load off his shoulders in possession. Wouldn't mind seeing O'neil get a shot alongside Mooy against Nepal or Chinese Taipei.


IMO its a battle between Ikon, Mabil and Arzani for the starting roles in wide areas. Ikon scores more goals than the other two.

Hrustic is probably next in line while the other 3 need to re discover their club form to genuinely challenge
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New Signing - 25 Nov 2019 2:14 PM
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IMO its a battle between Ikon, Mabil and Arzani for the starting roles in wide areas. Ikon scores more goals than the other two.

Hrustic is probably next in line while the other 3 need to re discover their club form to genuinely challenge

Matthew Leckie, 28 years old, 63 caps for Socceroos says hello.

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robbos - 25 Nov 2019 2:25 PM
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Matthew Leckie, 28 years old, 63 caps for Socceroos says hello.

technically not even near Arzani or Hrustic.. once his pace has gone it will difficult for him..

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New Signing - 25 Nov 2019 2:14 PM
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IMO its a battle between Ikon, Mabil and Arzani for the starting roles in wide areas. Ikon scores more goals than the other two.

Hrustic is probably next in line while the other 3 need to re discover their club form to genuinely challenge

Where is Ikon scoring ? I must have missed that
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lukerobinho - 25 Nov 2019 3:25 PM
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Where is Ikon scoring ? I must have missed that

Scored 9 from 18 league games last season and had 2 goals so far this season.
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D_manu - 25 Nov 2019 1:59 PM
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Hard to see Ikon making it in with players like Hrustic, Mabil, Leckie, Boyle, Arzani and Borrello. 
He needs to make the next step up. 

Bocca - 25 Nov 2019 12:19 PM

I don't think this would work. Needs to be higher up. We need a player next to Mooy that takes a load off his shoulders in possession. Wouldn't mind seeing O'neil get a shot alongside Mooy against Nepal or Chinese Taipei.


Ikon better than Borello. McGree better than Borello.
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Balin Trev - 25 Nov 2019 6:48 PM
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Ikon better than Borello. McGree better than Borello.

This^ ppl just spouting borello based on "oh but hes playing in top 5". So did Richard garcia....
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In the hole so he can repeatedly attack the box with his penetrating movements.


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I dont watch much of Adelaide is Mcgree a genuine talent who could play in the EPL or is he more an industrious type of player like Irvine who runs around a lot and occasionally pops up to score a few goals?
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rusty - 25 Nov 2019 12:49 PM
I dont watch much of Adelaide is Mcgree a genuine talent who could play in the EPL or is he more an industrious type of player like Irvine who runs around a lot and occasionally pops up to score a few goals?

I have been surprised by his creativity this year. Yes, very industrious (good word) but has that bit extra over someone like Irvine. May lack in heading ability vis a vis Irvine, but that can be addressed, as we have seen with Maclaren. Roar supporter if you haven't seen my posts.
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not an area we need to desperately improve... better off letting him grow up abit... its clear his issue at Brugge wasn't his talent but a mentality thing.... they play youngsters regularly... looks at Charles De Ketelaere.

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I don't he will be considered until the next round of qualifiers. He has the Olympics in July - August 2020 if we qualify.
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He works well when he is joined by mutilple players in the box and can work collectively to unlock the hole 
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Could he play a defensive midfield spot for the Socceroos making great runs into the box and rocket kicks outside?

if Europe can convert him to more a defensive mid with attacking qualities it would be the defensive mid we are looking for!!
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And Ikonomidis is another one to fit Into the forward 3! 
Forgot about him! 

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I would say nowhere for the next 9 months!
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kaufusi - 25 Nov 2019 2:06 PM
I would say nowhere for the next 9 months!

Pretty much. 
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I look forward to seeing him play for the Olyroo's .
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I think either as an advanced No.10 where he forward runs into the box would be dangerous along with his ability to score with his left foot OR as a No.8 with a playmaker next to him.

I like to see try his luck in Holland where they can teach him good movement off the ball like they did Holman as he reminds me of him when he was younger.
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probably on the bench or in the youth team

 




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Will need to keep the form up in a stronger league before he has any genuine claim to a squad spot. Unfortunately for Mcgree midfield is the one place we have plenty of options.
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I genuinely hope he gets chosen for a Socceroos squad at the end of his ban. Really don't want Amini or Luongo there yet again.


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hames_jetfield - 25 Nov 2019 9:23 PM
I genuinely hope he gets chosen for a Socceroos squad at the end of his ban. Really don't want Amini or Luongo there yet again.

Dont get the luongo hate on here... guy was best player in his championship side last 2 yrs and has started dominating with his new team 
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McGree is just amother reason why Irvine and leckie need to be converted to CF and right back respectively. We just have so many options now at CM, AM, and Wing. I think both those guys could be top international standard in those positions 
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Bunch of Hacks - 26 Nov 2019 9:23 AM
McGree is just amother reason why Irvine and leckie need to be converted to CF and right back respectively. We just have so many options now at CM, AM, and Wing. I think both those guys could be top international standard in those positions 

Currently, his position is left right out with the suspension from all national team activity.

And he won't be anything but a bench-warmer until he returns to Europe and proves himself. He returned to the A-league after failing in Europe.
He may take on minnows and do well but his shortcomings would be found out by any south American team and the likes of Japan and South Korea. 
So left right out is the correct position
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Paul01 - 26 Nov 2019 11:20 AM
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Currently, his position is left right out with the suspension from all national team activity.

And he won't be anything but a bench-warmer until he returns to Europe and proves himself. He returned to the A-league after failing in Europe.
He may take on minnows and do well but his shortcomings would be found out by any south American team and the likes of Japan and South Korea. 
So left right out is the correct position

Aha you really don't like him do you

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Davide82 - 26 Nov 2019 1:55 PM
Paul01 - 26 Nov 2019 11:20 AM

Aha you really don't like him do you

No. I don't believe that he currently skillful enough to compete with top class players until he is playing regularly in Europe.

The only goal against a top 4 opposition this season against Melbourne City.
The other goals against Newcastle, Central Coast and Melbourne Victory (who this season seem to leaking goals)
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Paul01 - 26 Nov 2019 2:34 PM
Davide82 - 26 Nov 2019 1:55 PM

No. I don't believe that he currently skillful enough to compete with top class players until he is playing regularly in Europe.

The only goal against a top 4 opposition this season against Melbourne City.
The other goals against Newcastle, Central Coast and Melbourne Victory (who this season seem to leaking goals)

I've just noticed you commenting on him a lot lately (calling for bigger punishments etc) that's all.

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Davide82 - 26 Nov 2019 2:54 PM
Paul01 - 26 Nov 2019 2:34 PM

I've just noticed you commenting on him a lot lately (calling for bigger punishments etc) that's all.

He should have got the same ban as the others plus as Captain he should have known better.
But Arnie let the boys off the leash.
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Paul01 - 26 Nov 2019 2:56 PM
Davide82 - 26 Nov 2019 2:54 PM

He should have got the same ban as the others plus as Captain he should have known better.
But Arnie let the boys off the leash.

How could you possibly argue that when you don't know exactly what happened or the extent that each player was involved?
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Bunch of Hacks - 26 Nov 2019 9:23 AM
McGree is just amother reason why Irvine and leckie need to be converted to CF and right back respectively. We just have so many options now at CM, AM, and Wing. I think both those guys could be top international standard in those positions 

Leckie has played right back for the Socceroos previously I'm pretty sure. 
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ErogenousZone - 26 Nov 2019 12:28 PM
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Leckie has played right back for the Socceroos previously I'm pretty sure. 

He played RWB under anges 3421 system and was probably our best player during this period. Likewise has been used there on occasion for Hertha also with great success.
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Pick him as the backup 10. Irvine can be a back up to Mooy while Hrustic can pay on the right. It is possible to be able to include all of McGree, Rogic, Irvine, Hrustic, Arzani and Mabil in the squad but we would have to only pick two striker and not three.

This is the squad I'd select:

Ryan
Grant Degenek Sainsbury Smith
Mooy Jeggo
Leckie Rogic Arzani
Taggart

With a second XI of:

Vukovic/Langerak
Risdon Wright Jurman Elder
Irvine Luongo
Hrustic McGree Mabil or Ikon
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sub007 - 26 Nov 2019 9:28 PM
Pick him as the backup 10. Irvine can be a back up to Mooy while Hrustic can pay on the right. It is possible to be able to include all of McGree, Rogic, Irvine, Hrustic, Arzani and Mabil in the squad but we would have to only pick two striker and not three.

This is the squad I'd select:

Ryan
Grant Degenek Sainsbury Smith
Mooy Jeggo
Leckie Rogic Arzani
Taggart

With a second XI of:

Vukovic/Langerak
Risdon Wright Jurman Elder
Irvine Luongo
Hrustic McGree Mabil or Ikon
Maclaren



Agree with this. He can certainly be included but it will require a reshuffle of either Irvine to DM or to CF, Arzani to LW and Hrustic to RW. Mcgree thereby would be backup AM to Rogic. To be honest my 4 CM/DM's at this point would be Mooy and Irvine starters, with Luongo and Holland as backups. McGree backup no10 as mentioned above.  
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sub007 - 26 Nov 2019 9:28 PM
Pick him as the backup 10. Irvine can be a back up to Mooy while Hrustic can pay on the right. It is possible to be able to include all of McGree, Rogic, Irvine, Hrustic, Arzani and Mabil in the squad but we would have to only pick two striker and not three.

This is the squad I'd select:

Ryan
Grant Degenek Sainsbury Smith
Mooy Jeggo
Leckie Rogic Arzani
Taggart

With a second XI of:

Vukovic/Langerak
Risdon Wright Jurman Elder
Irvine Luongo
Hrustic McGree Mabil or Ikon
Maclaren



My squad would be:

Starting:
                   Ryan
Leckie  Dege  Sains   Smith
            Mooy  Irvine
Boyle        Rogic      Arzani
               Taggart

In squad backups:
            Vukovic/ Langers
Grant    Milligan   Jurman     Behich
             Holland   Luongo
Hrustic         McGree           Mabil
                    McLaren

Emergencies to squad:
                     Dunno
  Risdon, Wright, Meredith, Elder 
               Jeggo, B Oneill,   
  Borrello        Ikon           Goodwin
                    Dykes


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Bunch of Hacks - 27 Nov 2019 6:10 AM
sub007 - 26 Nov 2019 9:28 PM

My squad would be:

Starting:
                   Ryan
Leckie  Dege  Sains   Smith
            Mooy  Irvine
Boyle        Rogic      Arzani
               Taggart

In squad backups:
            Vukovic/ Langers
Grant    Milligan   Jurman     Behich
             Holland   Luongo
Hrustic         McGree           Mabil
                    McLaren

Emergencies to squad:
                     Dunno
  Risdon, Wright, Meredith, Elder 
               Jeggo, B Oneill,   
  Borrello        Ikon           Goodwin
                    Dykes


There are no real DMs in here except for O'Neill, Jefgo at a pinch and Milligan who you have as a CB. Most of the players you have nominally as DMs operate more as box to box midfielders.

Notably 2 of those don't make your squad and the other is a coveribg CB.
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patjennings - 5 Dec 2019 5:00 PM
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There are no real DMs in here except for O'Neill, Jefgo at a pinch and Milligan who you have as a CB. Most of the players you have nominally as DMs operate more as box to box midfielders.

Notably 2 of those don't make your squad and the other is a coveribg CB.

no one really watches luongo huh... he was playing a deep lying 6 for ages.. barely got over the half way line
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An interesting prospect of Arzani and Mcgree backed up by Mooy and Irvine.

Could be a quality midfield
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Who does McGree remind you all of? 

I can't readily think of a player he is like. He is a great dribbler, very solid/aggressive over the ball, not quick but very agile/sharp with turning with the ball a bit like Hrustic, and has a booming shot. 
I think i'd have to say the closest player he reminds me of is Joe Cole. Maybe Bresch as well, who Hrustic also reminds me off prob more so than McgRee. Maybe a bit of Steven Gerrard too with the aggression and the shooting

What do you guys think?  
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Bunch of Hacks - 27 Nov 2019 7:05 AM
Who does McGree remind you all of? 

I can't readily think of a player he is like. He is a great dribbler, very solid/aggressive over the ball, not quick but very agile/sharp with turning with the ball a bit like Hrustic, and has a booming shot. 
I think i'd have to say the closest player he reminds me of is Joe Cole. Maybe Bresch as well, who Hrustic also reminds me off prob more so than McgRee. Maybe a bit of Steven Gerrard too with the aggression and the shooting

What do you guys think?  

He's actually really quick. 
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jeggohouse - 5 Dec 2019 4:21 PM
Bunch of Hacks - 27 Nov 2019 7:05 AM

He's actually really quick. 

Given he's quicker than Mileusnic, he's probably Australia's quickest footballer.
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Leave Grant out and play Irvine as a right back with Leckie as back up to him. That way you still gain the advantages Irvine offers with his aerial ability, strong running, speed etc
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.Riley McGREE (knee) anyone know how long he is injured till? 
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irvine as a RB or a #6? no. no. nope.

irvine's a 10. or a very attacking 8. he would be more suited as a second striker - probably even a #9 - than as a RB or #6

he did a job as a #6 for the NT and there was nothing but moaning about him on this forum. 

imo irvine should be treated like a cahill. probably similar to a "Raumdeuter"  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZsJo7ZKdjQ




 




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inala brah - 5 Dec 2019 4:47 PM
irvine as a RB or a #6? no. no. nope.

irvine's a 10. or a very attacking 8. he would be more suited as a second striker - probably even a #9 - than as a RB or #6

he did a job as a #6 for the NT and there was nothing but moaning about him on this forum. 

imo irvine should be treated like a cahill. probably similar to a "Raumdeuter"  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZsJo7ZKdjQ



Yep
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inala brah - 5 Dec 2019 4:47 PM
irvine as a RB or a #6? no. no. nope.

irvine's a 10. or a very attacking 8. he would be more suited as a second striker - probably even a #9 - than as a RB or #6

he did a job as a #6 for the NT and there was nothing but moaning about him on this forum. 

imo irvine should be treated like a cahill. probably similar to a "Raumdeuter"  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZsJo7ZKdjQ

Similar to Toivonen, really. Second striker, rather than number 10.
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Riley McGree should model his game on Saul from Atletico Madrid, left footed, box to box and with a lot of energy.
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