Oh, I REALLY hope not!


What do you think about the FourFourTwo article Le Guen Poised for Exit?
Cameroon boss Paul Le Guen has confirmed he will leave his post when his contract runs out this summer after failing to guide the team to the World Cup knockout stages.

Have your say.

wat do u not hope ?

Really would like someone on a winning roll to take over..

I guess I was hoping for somebody with a higher profile (i.e. a marketing dream with the media/public) and a couple of people that have been mentioned fit into that category (Frank Rijkaard for example).

I immediately thought that this was a 'cheap option by the FFA "because I didn't know anything about him he must be crap" (by my own admission), but he does have a reasonably good track record. He won 3 French League titles with Lyon and apart from a disastrous stint at Rangers, so he 'may' have the credentials IMO.

From what I have read about him, he can make some tough decisions like changing the captain and dropping star players. That could be good however, from what I have about his time at PSG and Rangers, not many of the players liked him.
I hope he isnt some erratic Frenchman who only French people can understand the idiosyncricities of.

He made big decisions which largely backfired on him spectacularly.

lets get diego! a one man marketing machine and someone who loves the beautiful game played beautifully! cue retorts re: drugs, cheating, bling, fidel castro....

No NO NO!

Pim would run rings around this bloke! Would be a definite step backwards.

PLEASE NOT LE GUEN, PLEASE

Lets see hes French - and they finished where this world cup?
Hes coached Cameroon in this world cup - and they finished where - bottom and possibly the worst team at the world cup
His past record is - Mmmm average
Well Done FFA - hes our man

Please not Le Guen.THIS GUY IS AN IMPOSTER! he took Rangers to a new low spending a heap of money on crap crap players and his team was voted the worst team in Rangers history! He also took a proud club like PSG and almost got them relegated! Please id rather the new coach be Mr Potato Head than him!

lets be serious about this, what do we want from a new coach?
i would say someone who understand the difficulties of the job(player travel, club releasing players, running 2 national teams as asian dates arent fifa dates), someone who appreciates that we want to see good football and that we are supportive of our national team(unlike many countries) and someone who spends long enough in australia to become a seriously marketable figure who is recognisable throughout the footballing and non footballing community.

anyone care to add to that?

Lets speculate even more and dream about having Pep Guardiola. Now we know that wont happen. So who would we really prefer, its easy to say who we dont want. Lets have a forum for once that doesnt slide into the ultra negative and start slagging each other off. That seems to be some peoples reason for coming on here.

MY thoughts exactly JohnnyD1

I agree with you JohnnyD1.
I'm going out on a limb here, and always thinking of an Australian coach. Surely there must be one somewhere, even if only a potential.

NO THANKS LE GUEN! If you can't handle Cameroon, Rangers and PSG, you can't handle the socceroos!

I'd MUCH rather see someone else who's team just exited from the World Cup take the job, maybe someone who coached another African nation, someone like the man who did so well with the South African team, one Carlos Alberto Parreira!!!! Yes please!!!

id love to go aussie too frank, but the best we have are frank farina and john kosmina and while i like them both i cant see them being popular choices. my wife reckons fozzie should be given a crack, but shes english and has been told to get back in her box!hahaha

zorro i mean! not frank!ha

t3x8 carlos alberto parreira may well be interested..those who have read sheilas wogs and poofters will know that he offered to take the socceroos for free in the mid 90's, johnny warren took the proposal to the ASF, and they rejected it! crazy hey. makes you appreciate how far weve come under frank lowy

What makes you all think that Mr Lowy has not done a job on Rick Herbert and he may be our new coach? I'ts a big step up for Rick and I for one would be quite happy with him.
Algreco

Nooooo

I dont think he is a bad coach but i dont think he is the right man for the job.

Personally i think Dutch coach suit us, we just need one that doesnt just defend and knows how to select a team.

Based on the way the national curriculum is set up I'd be very surprised if the new coach wasn't Dutch...

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO.

It's now been proven that Pim wasn't good enough, this guy would only be a giant step backwards.

The FFA appear to have looked at the jobs he's had, rather than how he's done them.

I would prefer Le Guen To Ricky, and I would still rather coat my balls in honey and dangle them over an ants nest than have Le Geun.

This guy is a liability!! The Lyon team he won 3 title with was MILES ahead of anyone else in France at that time. They won 7 titles in a row, some of them at a canter. Winning titles is nothing to sneeze at, but most managers would have done the same with that squad. He does have a record of promoting and developing youth, and bringing players from obscurity to prominence, but he also has a record for making good teams shit. He has the record of having the shortest managerial tenure in Glasgow Rangers history, a history that goes back 137 years!!)

Aside from all of that, his Cameroon side at this cup have been the worst team at the tournament. Eto' on right mid/wing??!!

Yes, there are worse coaches out there, but we dont want them for the Roos either.

PLEASE FFA!!!! LOOK HARDER!!!!!

Edited by villaboy: 25/6/2010 10:56:10 AM

I honestly believe we should stick with the Dutch option but and attacking Duchman Ie a Van Gaal or someone of that nature it would be a shame if FFA has gone through all this implementing the 433 system through the younger ranks and then at the top level having a coach that doesnt support the system

It will be Carlosh 100%.

@Loyalist

433 apparently isn't implemented through the youth ranks to specifically play them at senior level. From my understanding it is thought that the 433 system is the best for developing talent and also creates highly versatile footballers that can then adapt to any system which is implemented at senior level.

What's with the change in tone davstar?:-k :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I thought you said Le Guen was a master tactician with vast European success because he won a few titles? Seems like everyone in this thread disagrees with your piss poor and uneducated input :idea:

Fact is, this guy is a failure and while he would be better than nothing(ie, appointing GA as manager again) but hes no where near the best choice to take us to 2014

Please no!! Questioning the people behind the hiring of the new national coach.

Carlos Bilardo wanted to coach the roos and he was knocked back, what more do they want!!! So no confidence at all in the decision makers.

i feel we could attract somebody a lot better and qualified.

FFA needs to dig a little bit deeper

Surely part of the idea of getting some big name foreign coach is to get someone with a winning history who knows what he's doing, not someone who knows how to get a team ready to take a hammering!

This should be funny......

EXACTLY!!!!!

I just hope this is all a big joke. Going from one dud to another hell no. Johan Van Neesken, Carlos Billardo, Rijkardt (sorry spelling) umm Mark Van Basten even!!!

Maybe Lowey should talk to David Traktovenko. He seems to know a thing or two about finding quality coaches! Who knew who Vitja was before his appointment at Sydney? But he's been absolutely brilliant! Maybe he's got some other contacts there that could be brilliant for the Socceroos job!

How long before we need a coach in place for the next serious match eg. asian qualifiers. Is it September or there abouts? The new coach must have some respect for the A-league and understands where football sits and where we want it to sit in the sporting minds of people in this country too.

we have a major competition in january...the asian cup! huge chance for us to win the tournament and some silverware for the roos!

I think we have a friendly before then as well. But I am sure the new coach, whoever it is ,will organise some more games leading into the Asian Cup. But nothing has been locked in yet as far as I am aware. Most players will come back from the cup and have a holiday before the European club season starts, so I dont expect much until later in the year.

what about just putting in an aussie coach for the asian cup. y'know, someone who knows the players and the situation.

graham arnold anyone?
hahahahaha

I'm stunned that the FFA can even consider a non-Dutch, or at least Dutch-educated, coach. It seems rediculous that we've established a Dutch mentality at the top with consecutive national coaches, and a Dutch coaching system at the AIS with Dutch coaches, and that we would then turn around and go in a different direction. The FFA's "long term planning" in developing youth is completely pointless if the playing mentality doesn't go from top to bottom.

And as I said on another thread - the FFA are making the decisions at Fury and Adelaide - it seems dumb that they wouldn't bring in Dutch coaches there too (hopefully the Fury coach has a 'Dutch' philosophy) - and that when they were in charge of Perth a few years back they opted to hire Mitchell, rather than easing in the new 'Dutch' age at A-League level when they had the chance. For me, the only positive from the FFA having control of A-league sides is the opportunity it gives them to create an uniform playing culture through the top level of the game here. And if they go for Le Guen, they ain't doing that.

Paul Le Guen would be a big mistake, his Record at Rangers was awful and he managed to alienate pretty much the whole squad.

Anyone but La-goon!!

why are we getting linked with such AWFUL potential managers. if we have ANY ambition at all we will hold out until the right man comes along.

Im not going to argue with you but if you actually read what i said the other day (assuming you can read COYS) you would see 'i think he is the best candiate' we have atm which i said before. I also said he 'wasnt the best man for the job' did i not? However i said that we didnt have anyone better in the line the lesser of two evils i guess you could say.

So i didnt change my tone matter of fact i've been saying wat everyone has been saying all along.

I think this guy would do a much better job then Herbert, another Verbeek or a coach that i currently unable to get a job? dont you?

Also, i've been saying i think the FFA should try get Marcelo Bielsa the current coach of Chile who imo knows how to up bring a young squad and plays attacking football.

please read my comments before you slander my name, then use your brain (assuming you have one) to process what im saying if you did that im sure you will see what i say mkes sence.

Cheers Mate =) maybe one day you will be right COYS...maybe...


Edited by Davstar: 25/6/2010 05:22:57 PM

If hasn't been said already, PLEASE NO!!!!!!!!!!!

who is going to replace Ricki Herbert, nix and AW? Surely a few years in aussie then step onto greater things.... :)

what about ernie merrick?

Ricky will not be the Aussie coach. As for Merrick, if you really want him, please take him

nah Herbert is off to Liverpool

is this not the same thing that you castrated Pim for Kevin?
I think this guys a step down.

I agree. I really hope the hype is all coming from Le Guen and not the FFA. I've already said there are far better options out there.

Edited by Kevin Airs: 25/6/2010 07:40:35 PM

Out of interest, who do you see as better options?

john neeskens will be a better choice then le guen! hell if the ffa apporach domench ill be fucken screaming!!

don't you fucking dare FFA

this x1000

+1

Yeah, it has...













...and by many others, more eloquently, in this thread and others. ;) :p




Well fair enough you pull me up on this, given my clear lack of reasoning, but I reasoned about it at length in another article about it and I feel since my post a few have covered in a little more detail, just a few reasons atleast why he would not be the best candidate, let alone best appointment for our NT job.

Then again, maybe I misunderstand your question - 'wat do u not hope ?' Well I suppose it's clear, if you read the article, as to what I and others, like those I quoted above, hope is not the case... hope it will not happen... rather hope not... please don't happen... we beg the FFA for this not to happen... we wish for this not to happen... etc... Get the gist? Or, gist u get not? :D

Edited by GloryPerth: 26/6/2010 03:02:46 AM