Just pointing out his experiences in Japan

he's the son of ex socceroo alan davidson.

What's your point?

http://forum.soccermanager.com/showthread.php?t=58618

And having considered the above suggestions I've come to the conclusion I think it would be fair to question the sexual orientation of the person in question. How one could possibly reach a different conclusion is beyond my comprehension.

Take into consideration decentics knowledge of the academic world and only now claiming the USA education is inferior to australia's.

Take into consideration decentic's knowledge of worlds best practice(KNVB)in football and now his claim that the USA's football system is inferior.

More to this than meets the eye. Dont you think?

I see. So you know some'one' whom this happened to.

It's so obvious i should have tripped over it.

Edited by skeptic: 18/5/2011 01:28:01 PM

just putting it out there as i know someone who this happened to.

The USA college football system is very much a lesbo magnet for up and coming sportswomen.

Where did this come from?

I think it would be fair to question the sexual orientation of the person in question as being a reason for the move overseas.

Was it too prohibitive and discriminatory in little old tassie to display ones sexual orientation hence the need to move overseas?

PS. I have nothing against lesbians.

I think it would be fair to question the sexual orientation of the person in question.

Was it too prohibitive and discriminatory in little old tassie to display ones sexual orientation hence the need to move overseas?

PS. I have nothing against lesbians.

Well I did my best to warn you about 1 & 2, decentric.

And 3 & 4 could have been more easily attained locally without compromising educational aspects.

Edited by judy free: 18/5/2011 09:01:31 AM

There are different ways to evaluate it.

1. Educational benefit from coursework at uni.
2. Football experience.
3. Personal growth development can also be educational in a maturational sense.
4. Fostering independence.

1. The education is most disappointing in the USA. First year uni is a waste of time in USA. Our first year is like their second year.

Paradoxically, a mate, a scientist, says that he knows of two cases where Australian PHDs have been deemed inadequate by US institutions. Unfortunately, my relative appears to have been labelled as a sports scholar with the implication of lacking cerebral qualities. Ironically, journalism, supposedly a major, clashes with soccer. They can't both be taken as subjects at the institution simultaneously.
I don't think good American unis offer sports scholarships.

The relative and one of the fellow Australian players, are considered geniuses in their English class. Americans are so ethnocentric, through blissful ignorance, everything has to be decoded into Americanisms. The relative received high enough marks to qualify for Cornell, one of their Ivy League unis, globally a much higher ranking than any Australian uni.
Luckily, the relative and her five Australian teammates are walking distance from a 55 minutes ferry ride to Vancouver Island, in Canada. Victoria, the capital, is very trendy and interesting.

2. Football experience.
Trains four hours a day. I think It is stupid. 90 minutes weight training per day, 5 days per week. Coaches, have no idea of Raymond Verheijen's periodiasation.
I've checked with an NTC coach, one current senior international coach, one former international senior coach and a former international player. All concur that the four hours is excessive.
There are different ideas about the value of weight training, but the consensus is the amount is excessive. Soccer is like rugby in USA. Very physical!!!

3. This has been extremely beneficial. There has been clarification about future in terms of being a professional athlete (lacks intellectial rigour) compared to pursuing a profession in Australia. Appreciates more things about home and home state. The US teammates seem very nice and welcoming.

4. This has also been particularly beneficial. Relative has thrived.


As far as Krones' child is concerned:

3. and 4. would probably be of great benefit.

1. May be useful too. The Japanese, Chinese, Vietnamese, Korean and Singaporean kids are very good at maths/science.

2. Will depend on the quality of the football programme.

We were going to work in Japan, but opted for more money in the middle-east.

Edited by Decentric: 18/5/2011 12:01:57 AM

By age 14/15 a kid has to be doing something special (eg standout player in top tier comp) to have any chance of progression to pro football.

Look, nothing wrong if people wish to throw money at their averagely talented teenage kid's sockah education - one day it could mean the difference between playing AA7's and AA6's.

suffice to say that would be the norm.

Always exceptions to the rule but the numbers would clearly indicate otherwise and odds stacked against it happening.

Dont forget that all over the world, future pro players are playing regular senior football generally by the time they are 18 unlike in this country where we have gone back in time and hal franchises see more worth in signing up old washed up hacks from overseas rather than giving young talent a go.

maybe yes maybe no.

The idea is not set in stone.
Not sure about tassie but up here kids are being offered all sorts of so called football trips.
As my children have already traveled most of the world if I am going to pay for a football trip I would like it to be really about football.

from my experience by 16/17 reality hits if the kid is good enough or not.

Its at this age that the cream rises and potential is evident as to a players true potential of what level is achievable.

Edited by rabid: 17/5/2011 09:44:27 PM

Edited by rabid: 17/5/2011 09:46:27 PM

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When they feel its the right time

I trust that this sage advice would also apply to anyone considering spending money on one of those dodgy USA so-called scholarships, yeah?

I started looking at it, but I couldn't fast forward it from the anthem to make an instant appraisal. I'll revisit it.

In terms of a three month exchange one will benefit, because international travel is an educational experience, regardless of the football.

The only problem is that a lot of kids in this country are deluded from a young age they have a career in professional football with all the attention given to players in rep sides, etc.

Only about one out of 200 to 300 will play at a higher level at senior level.

Because of this, for many players if they have all the attention, travel and opportunities when they are young, playing senior football can seem a bit of an anti-climax. I'm sure many of these players give the game away prematurely.

According to my FFA sources the Japanese football model is a small part of our FFA curriculum , along with the major part of it being KNVB. There is also some influence of Clairefontaine, which apparently is the biggest of eleven French football academies.

So to sum up, the experience will probably be beneficial for your child in terms of personal development, but long term the child may have little to look forward to as a senior player.

What would the cost be?

Other than that, I hope it works out, Krones.

Edited by Decentric: 17/5/2011 09:11:01 PM

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Hard work, this.

I've seen state coaches at the end of the trip.

The same as school teachers, they look absolutely exhausted.

Whether they pay for it or not, it would be very tiring work.

Scott Chipperfield.

Michael Zullo?

Sasha Ognenovski ?

A a presentation was delivered by our previous state FFA TD. He stated emphatically that only one out of 200 or 300 players go on to play in a league beyond the level of their local leagues.

In Tasmania that extrapolated to the premier league. Whether that equates to state league in other states, I'm not sure.

The point I'm making is that very few make a career out of football.

If they do, the remuneration is inadequate or modest. That is unless one plays in one of the eight or so big leagues in Europe.

Education is a far better investment.

I've known two former Young Socceroos who chose PE teaching over football.

I also know a former Young Socceroo captain who retired at 26 to make a better living. He was playing in the NSL. Although missing out on a Celtic transfer through visa issues, he concluded he wasn't of sufficient calibre to make a decent living out of football.

There is also the issue of what happens at the end of a career.

Whatsoever?

Do they pay for thier airfares and accom out of their own pockets?

Is that Alistair Edwards, one of the senior FFA coaches?

Coaching/teaching staff get no free ride whatsoever.

Taking a group of kids to for an overseas trip is responsibility for 24 hours a day, week in and week out.

It is really hard, unrelenting work. It is the antithesis of overseas holiday travel.

OK.

All the best.

But let me ask you a question........

At what age should a kid cease chasing the pro sockah dream?


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