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+x+x+x+x[quote]I would be one to give Fowler more time. He f*cked up with his recruitment big time. This next transfer window will show what he's made of. If he fails to swing the axe in at least a couple of places and inject better quality, then he should be sacked. Having said that, I blame the club, starting with the owner and down as to why we are in this ridiculous predicament. We need a new owner. I work closely with the club on various aspects and I can see no evidence that the Bakries are actively engaged in the direction the club is taking. Mind you, WSW have engaged owners and find themselves in a similar predicament so maybe it’s not that - just as long as they pay the bills. When Mulvey left it marked the lowest point for this club - despite his championship win behind the scenes was in turmoil, the club was in debt to numerous organisations including ATO, QRU, Suncorp Stadium, the FFA plus numerous local suppliers. The crash came a year later with the 2015 financial crisis - that was the time for the FFA to act but we all know they bottled it. Dobson-Pourre-Cobb-Kingsman-Pourre has been 5 CEO’s in 4 years. And only two were any good (Kingsman R.I.P. and Pourre). This is Season I think we’ve paid for that with no recognised marquees - Roar regularly spent $1.25m+ on two marquees until this year when we’ve none (although it sounds like they are using the exemption rule to at least up spending). The move to Dolphin was another cost cutting measure and will likely leave the financials better off by $750k. I can only see more games there next season. Commercially though Roar are doing really well - they have a record number of commercial partners and record revenues (apparently) - that shows how messed up the club was when they were champions in three out of four seasons and they couldn’t convert that commercially. What this all means for Fowler in this transfer window is anyone’s guess - mine would be the Bakries have financial targets on the club which will limit Fowler’s ability to spend so any new players coming in will have to be balanced by players leaving. We can only hope. But thankfully I still maintain he doesn’t need much - two good midfielders will probably do it. He has Mells Jnr . Fortuna Sittard signed him even when he was injured. But could not get him right. It appears now he is firing on all cylinders. 10 goals 8 assists. Should at least be given a chance. It may well turn out well. I was never overly impressed with him at Adelaide, but maybe the injuries were an issue. But I agree, he is obviously doing something in the youth league, so what have we got to lose by at least giving him a go and seeing where he is at.
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Considering how poorly fowler recruited for the season, are we really expecting him do any better now in the transfer window?
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+xConsidering how poorly fowler recruited for the season, are we really expecting him do any better now in the transfer window? Evidence from around the football world says there’s no reason why not - it’s not AFL or NRL
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Waz
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+x+x+x+x[quote]I would be one to give Fowler more time. He f*cked up with his recruitment big time. This next transfer window will show what he's made of. If he fails to swing the axe in at least a couple of places and inject better quality, then he should be sacked. Having said that, I blame the club, starting with the owner and down as to why we are in this ridiculous predicament. We need a new owner. I work closely with the club on various aspects and I can see no evidence that the Bakries are actively engaged in the direction the club is taking. Mind you, WSW have engaged owners and find themselves in a similar predicament so maybe it’s not that - just as long as they pay the bills. When Mulvey left it marked the lowest point for this club - despite his championship win behind the scenes was in turmoil, the club was in debt to numerous organisations including ATO, QRU, Suncorp Stadium, the FFA plus numerous local suppliers. The crash came a year later with the 2015 financial crisis - that was the time for the FFA to act but we all know they bottled it. Dobson-Pourre-Cobb-Kingsman-Pourre has been 5 CEO’s in 4 years. And only two were any good (Kingsman R.I.P. and Pourre). This is Season I think we’ve paid for that with no recognised marquees - Roar regularly spent $1.25m+ on two marquees until this year when we’ve none (although it sounds like they are using the exemption rule to at least up spending). The move to Dolphin was another cost cutting measure and will likely leave the financials better off by $750k. I can only see more games there next season. Commercially though Roar are doing really well - they have a record number of commercial partners and record revenues (apparently) - that shows how messed up the club was when they were champions in three out of four seasons and they couldn’t convert that commercially. What this all means for Fowler in this transfer window is anyone’s guess - mine would be the Bakries have financial targets on the club which will limit Fowler’s ability to spend so any new players coming in will have to be balanced by players leaving. We can only hope. But thankfully I still maintain he doesn’t need much - two good midfielders will probably do it. He has Mells Jnr . Fortuna Sittard signed him even when he was injured. But could not get him right. It appears now he is firing on all cylinders. 10 goals 8 assists. Should at least be given a chance. It may well turn out well. No reason not to give him a go. The caveat is Inman - killed it in preseason but can’t bring that form to the HAL. Time to find out if Mells can?
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+x+x+x+x+x[quote]I would be one to give Fowler more time. He f*cked up with his recruitment big time. This next transfer window will show what he's made of. If he fails to swing the axe in at least a couple of places and inject better quality, then he should be sacked. Having said that, I blame the club, starting with the owner and down as to why we are in this ridiculous predicament. We need a new owner. I work closely with the club on various aspects and I can see no evidence that the Bakries are actively engaged in the direction the club is taking. Mind you, WSW have engaged owners and find themselves in a similar predicament so maybe it’s not that - just as long as they pay the bills. When Mulvey left it marked the lowest point for this club - despite his championship win behind the scenes was in turmoil, the club was in debt to numerous organisations including ATO, QRU, Suncorp Stadium, the FFA plus numerous local suppliers. The crash came a year later with the 2015 financial crisis - that was the time for the FFA to act but we all know they bottled it. Dobson-Pourre-Cobb-Kingsman-Pourre has been 5 CEO’s in 4 years. And only two were any good (Kingsman R.I.P. and Pourre). This is Season I think we’ve paid for that with no recognised marquees - Roar regularly spent $1.25m+ on two marquees until this year when we’ve none (although it sounds like they are using the exemption rule to at least up spending). The move to Dolphin was another cost cutting measure and will likely leave the financials better off by $750k. I can only see more games there next season. Commercially though Roar are doing really well - they have a record number of commercial partners and record revenues (apparently) - that shows how messed up the club was when they were champions in three out of four seasons and they couldn’t convert that commercially. What this all means for Fowler in this transfer window is anyone’s guess - mine would be the Bakries have financial targets on the club which will limit Fowler’s ability to spend so any new players coming in will have to be balanced by players leaving. We can only hope. But thankfully I still maintain he doesn’t need much - two good midfielders will probably do it. He has Mells Jnr . Fortuna Sittard signed him even when he was injured. But could not get him right. It appears now he is firing on all cylinders. 10 goals 8 assists. Should at least be given a chance. It may well turn out well. No reason not to give him a go. The caveat is Inman - killed it in preseason but can’t bring that form to the HAL. Time to find out if Mells can? If it makes you feel better noone was killing it preseason especially ffa cup now he is as quiet as a mouse
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Mr B
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+x+xConsidering how poorly fowler recruited for the season, are we really expecting him do any better now in the transfer window? Evidence from around the football world says there’s no reason why not - it’s not AFL or NRL How about the evidence right in front of us? :laugh:
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Mr B
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Doubt the majority of fans think this way, 461 people is not exactly a lot considering our crowd support.
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+xDoubt the majority of fans think this way, 461 people is not exactly a lot considering our crowd support. What you’re saying is a sample size of 461 is not representative of the larger support base. These surveys are not conducted with enough rigour to argue the point one way or another so it’s not a debate I would get in to, I just wouldn’t dismiss it. 461 is a huge number in real terms so I wouldn’t be dismissing it nor thinking the wider support base thinks differently - there’s no evidence to suggest they do and this survey matches what’s been said on line - there is no “angry mob” wanting change. I’m not sure that’s a good thing - it could point to apathy. What it does (for the RSF which is the sole purpose of the survey) is inform the tone we use with the club. Personally it would be easier if it were the other way around ... but it’s not
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Waz
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+x+x+xConsidering how poorly fowler recruited for the season, are we really expecting him do any better now in the transfer window? Evidence from around the football world says there’s no reason why not - it’s not AFL or NRL How about the evidence right in front of us? :laugh: What evidence? or are you saying every manager in world football should get the sack if they get signings wrong once?
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The problem with Roar has to involve both the players recruited and the coach.
I dont think anyone would disagree that despite what appeared to be good preseason form,although mainly against NPL teams,there was one festering sore we all saw.A glaring weakness!
That weaknesses is now the crux of most of our woes.
We were shockingly vulnerable to fast play down the wings.To the extent some NPL teams cut us to pieces.
So is that a coach or player problem or both?
I dont think a couple of midfielders will solve the problem.
We know our FB's are not great.We know our midfielders are not great.We know our CB's are not great....etc.etc...
Is the coach expecting too much from the players he has?
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Waz
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+xThe problem with Roar has to involve both the players recruited and the coach. I dont think anyone would disagree that despite what appeared to be good preseason form,although mainly against NPL teams,there was one festering sore we all saw.A glaring weakness! That weaknesses is now the crux of most of our woes. We were shockingly vulnerable to fast play down the wings.To the extent some NPL teams cut us to pieces. So is that a coach or player problem or both? I dont think a couple of midfielders will solve the problem. We know our FB's are not great.We know our midfielders are not great.We know our CB's are not great....etc.etc... Is the coach expecting too much from the players he has? To me it’s just a “football problem” - it’s fine margins between top and bottom of the table. With the exception of Sydney who are a good 10% above their nearest competitors. The Back 3 is okay - everyone bangs on about (lack of) pace but the three players there aren’t slow and even if they were faster they could never could never cover the gaps that three at the back creates. Suncorp Stadium pitch width looks about 75m, maybe a bit less, but a back three is meant to occupy about 30-40 meters of that - or about half of the width. So so every time you see the back three exposed for pace/space the failing is in the midfield not the back 3. The whole point of a 5 man midfield is to overwhelm your opponents with superior numbers in midfield in both defence and attack. To make that wirk you need at least one midfielder who can routinely block out the passing lanes through the midfield and several who can move forwards at pace to overload opponents defence. Roar have neither. So either sign someone that can or change formation - if Robbie has failed big time it’s as you say: in the first game vs B/City and the last v P/Power his side was troubled by pace - when that happens your back 3 (who will be doing zonal marking) are screwed and the teams collective learned response is for everyone to sit deeper (isolating the forwards) and become reluctant to go forwards (so pass side ways and backwards a lot). Its a coaching thing, he should be doing better.
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I think the players could certainly be better, but I think there is absolutely an issue with the coaching, and this shows when you see how disorganised we look. No players know where to run or who to pass to. That to me is the coaches job to work out, and drill into the players so they can play as a cohesive unit.
The players in the most dangerous teams all have a shared understanding of where they, and the ball will be at any given time, and that is why they can so easily dismantle opposition teams.
I wonder if Robbie is now wishing he'd done a proper apprenticeship as an assistant before deciding he'd take on a head coach role. He's under a lot of pressure and seems absolutely flummoxed as to why the team isn't performing. He (with Grant) should know exactly where things are failing and be able to put in place measures to fix it. At the moment, he seems very willing to change up his selections, but to me it seems like he is just guessing, putting in different players and hoping it works, rather than doing so with any real intention or purpose.
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+xI think the players could certainly be better, but I think there is absolutely an issue with the coaching, and this shows when you look at how disorganised we look. No players know where to run or who to pass to. That to me is the coaches job to work out, and drill into the players so they can play as a cohesive unit. The players in the most dangerous teams all have a shared understanding of where they, and the ball will be at any given time, and that is why they can so easily dismantle opposition teams. I suppose the next question should be , what players would make the move in January after watching Fowler’s first 9 games ,clearly he is out of his depth and his 2 offsiders look clueless , yes he may turn it around but the games v Jets , WSW and City will make or break him I think.
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+x+xI think the players could certainly be better, but I think there is absolutely an issue with the coaching, and this shows when you look at how disorganised we look. No players know where to run or who to pass to. That to me is the coaches job to work out, and drill into the players so they can play as a cohesive unit. The players in the most dangerous teams all have a shared understanding of where they, and the ball will be at any given time, and that is why they can so easily dismantle opposition teams. I suppose the next question should be , what players would make the move in January after watching Fowler’s first 9 games ,clearly he is out of his depth and his 2 offsiders look clueless , yes he may turn it around but the games v Jets , WSW and City will make or break him I think. I suppose it depends on what Fowler is willing to say/do. If there are some promising youngsters not getting game time and he gives a promise of game time, they may be convinced. Not sure that is what we need, however. I can't imagine any of the senior players would be willing to leave without having their contract paid out, which is pretty pointless.
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+x+x+xI think the players could certainly be better, but I think there is absolutely an issue with the coaching, and this shows when you look at how disorganised we look. No players know where to run or who to pass to. That to me is the coaches job to work out, and drill into the players so they can play as a cohesive unit. The players in the most dangerous teams all have a shared understanding of where they, and the ball will be at any given time, and that is why they can so easily dismantle opposition teams. I suppose the next question should be , what players would make the move in January after watching Fowler’s first 9 games ,clearly he is out of his depth and his 2 offsiders look clueless , yes he may turn it around but the games v Jets , WSW and City will make or break him I think. I suppose it depends on what Fowler is willing to say/do. If there are some promising youngsters not getting game time and he gives a promise of game time, they may be convinced. Not sure that is what we need, however. I can't imagine any of the senior players would be willing to leave without having their contract paid out, which is pretty pointless. Not hearing that any offers have been made to pay players out but would doubt very much our esteemed owner’s would entertain giving cash away .
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+x+x+x+xI think the players could certainly be better, but I think there is absolutely an issue with the coaching, and this shows when you look at how disorganised we look. No players know where to run or who to pass to. That to me is the coaches job to work out, and drill into the players so they can play as a cohesive unit. The players in the most dangerous teams all have a shared understanding of where they, and the ball will be at any given time, and that is why they can so easily dismantle opposition teams. I suppose the next question should be , what players would make the move in January after watching Fowler’s first 9 games ,clearly he is out of his depth and his 2 offsiders look clueless , yes he may turn it around but the games v Jets , WSW and City will make or break him I think. I suppose it depends on what Fowler is willing to say/do. If there are some promising youngsters not getting game time and he gives a promise of game time, they may be convinced. Not sure that is what we need, however. I can't imagine any of the senior players would be willing to leave without having their contract paid out, which is pretty pointless. Not hearing that any offers have been made to pay players out but would doubt very much our esteemed owner’s would entertain giving cash away . Also nearly all players are on 2 yr deals which means this yr and next payouts no chance
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+x+x+x+x+xI think the players could certainly be better, but I think there is absolutely an issue with the coaching, and this shows when you look at how disorganised we look. No players know where to run or who to pass to. That to me is the coaches job to work out, and drill into the players so they can play as a cohesive unit. The players in the most dangerous teams all have a shared understanding of where they, and the ball will be at any given time, and that is why they can so easily dismantle opposition teams. I suppose the next question should be , what players would make the move in January after watching Fowler’s first 9 games ,clearly he is out of his depth and his 2 offsiders look clueless , yes he may turn it around but the games v Jets , WSW and City will make or break him I think. I suppose it depends on what Fowler is willing to say/do. If there are some promising youngsters not getting game time and he gives a promise of game time, they may be convinced. Not sure that is what we need, however. I can't imagine any of the senior players would be willing to leave without having their contract paid out, which is pretty pointless. Not hearing that any offers have been made to pay players out but would doubt very much our esteemed owner’s would entertain giving cash away . Also nearly all players are on 2 yr deals which means this yr and next payouts no chance This is the biggest worry of all - that we are contractually locked into a wooden spoon battle not just this season, but next as well. I really had high hopes for Fowler's appointment, but he's got pretty much everything wrong.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xI think the players could certainly be better, but I think there is absolutely an issue with the coaching, and this shows when you look at how disorganised we look. No players know where to run or who to pass to. That to me is the coaches job to work out, and drill into the players so they can play as a cohesive unit. The players in the most dangerous teams all have a shared understanding of where they, and the ball will be at any given time, and that is why they can so easily dismantle opposition teams. I suppose the next question should be , what players would make the move in January after watching Fowler’s first 9 games ,clearly he is out of his depth and his 2 offsiders look clueless , yes he may turn it around but the games v Jets , WSW and City will make or break him I think. I suppose it depends on what Fowler is willing to say/do. If there are some promising youngsters not getting game time and he gives a promise of game time, they may be convinced. Not sure that is what we need, however. I can't imagine any of the senior players would be willing to leave without having their contract paid out, which is pretty pointless. Not hearing that any offers have been made to pay players out but would doubt very much our esteemed owner’s would entertain giving cash away . Also nearly all players are on 2 yr deals which means this yr and next payouts no chance This is the biggest worry of all - that we are contractually locked into a wooden spoon battle not just this season, but next as well. I really had high hopes for Fowler's appointment, but he's got pretty much everything wrong. Farks sake, calm down. Theres 7 players coming off contract plus not all the visa players are here on two year deals. And theres one senior player spot free on the roster roster so they can sign one player in January without moving anyone out
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think the players could certainly be better, but I think there is absolutely an issue with the coaching, and this shows when you look at how disorganised we look. No players know where to run or who to pass to. That to me is the coaches job to work out, and drill into the players so they can play as a cohesive unit. The players in the most dangerous teams all have a shared understanding of where they, and the ball will be at any given time, and that is why they can so easily dismantle opposition teams. I suppose the next question should be , what players would make the move in January after watching Fowler’s first 9 games ,clearly he is out of his depth and his 2 offsiders look clueless , yes he may turn it around but the games v Jets , WSW and City will make or break him I think. I suppose it depends on what Fowler is willing to say/do. If there are some promising youngsters not getting game time and he gives a promise of game time, they may be convinced. Not sure that is what we need, however. I can't imagine any of the senior players would be willing to leave without having their contract paid out, which is pretty pointless. Not hearing that any offers have been made to pay players out but would doubt very much our esteemed owner’s would entertain giving cash away . Also nearly all players are on 2 yr deals which means this yr and next payouts no chance This is the biggest worry of all - that we are contractually locked into a wooden spoon battle not just this season, but next as well. I really had high hopes for Fowler's appointment, but he's got pretty much everything wrong. Farks sake, calm down. Theres 7 players coming off contract plus not all the visa players are here on two year deals. And theres one senior player spot free on the roster roster so they can sign one player in January without moving anyone out who is not on a 2 year deal? Aldred is, Gilesphie is, Rod is, im pretty sure AAH and JOS are too
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think the players could certainly be better, but I think there is absolutely an issue with the coaching, and this shows when you look at how disorganised we look. No players know where to run or who to pass to. That to me is the coaches job to work out, and drill into the players so they can play as a cohesive unit. The players in the most dangerous teams all have a shared understanding of where they, and the ball will be at any given time, and that is why they can so easily dismantle opposition teams. I suppose the next question should be , what players would make the move in January after watching Fowler’s first 9 games ,clearly he is out of his depth and his 2 offsiders look clueless , yes he may turn it around but the games v Jets , WSW and City will make or break him I think. I suppose it depends on what Fowler is willing to say/do. If there are some promising youngsters not getting game time and he gives a promise of game time, they may be convinced. Not sure that is what we need, however. I can't imagine any of the senior players would be willing to leave without having their contract paid out, which is pretty pointless. Not hearing that any offers have been made to pay players out but would doubt very much our esteemed owner’s would entertain giving cash away . Also nearly all players are on 2 yr deals which means this yr and next payouts no chance This is the biggest worry of all - that we are contractually locked into a wooden spoon battle not just this season, but next as well. I really had high hopes for Fowler's appointment, but he's got pretty much everything wrong. Farks sake, calm down. Theres 7 players coming off contract plus not all the visa players are here on two year deals. And theres one senior player spot free on the roster roster so they can sign one player in January without moving anyone out who is not on a 2 year deal? Aldred is, Gilesphie is, Rod is, im pretty sure AAH and JOS are too ROD is defiantly in a two year deal but not expected to be a visa player. The others are less clearcut but besides: Aldred. Gilesphey o’Shay are perfectly serviceable HAL players. Holloway could be if he ever gets fit/motivated.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think the players could certainly be better, but I think there is absolutely an issue with the coaching, and this shows when you look at how disorganised we look. No players know where to run or who to pass to. That to me is the coaches job to work out, and drill into the players so they can play as a cohesive unit. The players in the most dangerous teams all have a shared understanding of where they, and the ball will be at any given time, and that is why they can so easily dismantle opposition teams. I suppose the next question should be , what players would make the move in January after watching Fowler’s first 9 games ,clearly he is out of his depth and his 2 offsiders look clueless , yes he may turn it around but the games v Jets , WSW and City will make or break him I think. I suppose it depends on what Fowler is willing to say/do. If there are some promising youngsters not getting game time and he gives a promise of game time, they may be convinced. Not sure that is what we need, however. I can't imagine any of the senior players would be willing to leave without having their contract paid out, which is pretty pointless. Not hearing that any offers have been made to pay players out but would doubt very much our esteemed owner’s would entertain giving cash away . Also nearly all players are on 2 yr deals which means this yr and next payouts no chance This is the biggest worry of all - that we are contractually locked into a wooden spoon battle not just this season, but next as well. I really had high hopes for Fowler's appointment, but he's got pretty much everything wrong. Farks sake, calm down. Theres 7 players coming off contract plus not all the visa players are here on two year deals. And theres one senior player spot free on the roster roster so they can sign one player in January without moving anyone out who is not on a 2 year deal? Aldred is, Gilesphie is, Rod is, im pretty sure AAH and JOS are too The following are the BR players off contract at the end of the season. All the rest have at least another season on their contracts. - Daniel Bowles
- Jack Hingert
- Jacob Pepper
- Izaack Powell
- Aaron Reardon
- Kai Trewin
- Jamie Young
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think the players could certainly be better, but I think there is absolutely an issue with the coaching, and this shows when you look at how disorganised we look. No players know where to run or who to pass to. That to me is the coaches job to work out, and drill into the players so they can play as a cohesive unit. The players in the most dangerous teams all have a shared understanding of where they, and the ball will be at any given time, and that is why they can so easily dismantle opposition teams. I suppose the next question should be , what players would make the move in January after watching Fowler’s first 9 games ,clearly he is out of his depth and his 2 offsiders look clueless , yes he may turn it around but the games v Jets , WSW and City will make or break him I think. I suppose it depends on what Fowler is willing to say/do. If there are some promising youngsters not getting game time and he gives a promise of game time, they may be convinced. Not sure that is what we need, however. I can't imagine any of the senior players would be willing to leave without having their contract paid out, which is pretty pointless. Not hearing that any offers have been made to pay players out but would doubt very much our esteemed owner’s would entertain giving cash away . Also nearly all players are on 2 yr deals which means this yr and next payouts no chance This is the biggest worry of all - that we are contractually locked into a wooden spoon battle not just this season, but next as well. I really had high hopes for Fowler's appointment, but he's got pretty much everything wrong. Farks sake, calm down. Theres 7 players coming off contract plus not all the visa players are here on two year deals. And theres one senior player spot free on the roster roster so they can sign one player in January without moving anyone out who is not on a 2 year deal? Aldred is, Gilesphie is, Rod is, im pretty sure AAH and JOS are too - Daniel Bowles
- Jack Hingert
- Jacob Pepper
- Izaack Powell
- Aaron Reardon
- Kai Trewin
- Jamie Young
About 2 years ago Roar stopped reporting publicly when contracts are up so take that list as the minimum.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think the players could certainly be better, but I think there is absolutely an issue with the coaching, and this shows when you look at how disorganised we look. No players know where to run or who to pass to. That to me is the coaches job to work out, and drill into the players so they can play as a cohesive unit. The players in the most dangerous teams all have a shared understanding of where they, and the ball will be at any given time, and that is why they can so easily dismantle opposition teams. I suppose the next question should be , what players would make the move in January after watching Fowler’s first 9 games ,clearly he is out of his depth and his 2 offsiders look clueless , yes he may turn it around but the games v Jets , WSW and City will make or break him I think. I suppose it depends on what Fowler is willing to say/do. If there are some promising youngsters not getting game time and he gives a promise of game time, they may be convinced. Not sure that is what we need, however. I can't imagine any of the senior players would be willing to leave without having their contract paid out, which is pretty pointless. Not hearing that any offers have been made to pay players out but would doubt very much our esteemed owner’s would entertain giving cash away . Also nearly all players are on 2 yr deals which means this yr and next payouts no chance This is the biggest worry of all - that we are contractually locked into a wooden spoon battle not just this season, but next as well. I really had high hopes for Fowler's appointment, but he's got pretty much everything wrong. Farks sake, calm down. Theres 7 players coming off contract plus not all the visa players are here on two year deals. And theres one senior player spot free on the roster roster so they can sign one player in January without moving anyone out who is not on a 2 year deal? Aldred is, Gilesphie is, Rod is, im pretty sure AAH and JOS are too ROD is defiantly in a two year deal but not expected to be a visa player. The others are less clearcut but besides: Aldred. Gilesphey o’Shay are perfectly serviceable HAL players. Holloway could be if he ever gets fit/motivated. I don't believe Gillesphey is an A League standard player, I'm not happy that he might be at Brisbane until the end of next season. And Aldred is borderline for me.
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Waz
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think the players could certainly be better, but I think there is absolutely an issue with the coaching, and this shows when you look at how disorganised we look. No players know where to run or who to pass to. That to me is the coaches job to work out, and drill into the players so they can play as a cohesive unit. The players in the most dangerous teams all have a shared understanding of where they, and the ball will be at any given time, and that is why they can so easily dismantle opposition teams. I suppose the next question should be , what players would make the move in January after watching Fowler’s first 9 games ,clearly he is out of his depth and his 2 offsiders look clueless , yes he may turn it around but the games v Jets , WSW and City will make or break him I think. I suppose it depends on what Fowler is willing to say/do. If there are some promising youngsters not getting game time and he gives a promise of game time, they may be convinced. Not sure that is what we need, however. I can't imagine any of the senior players would be willing to leave without having their contract paid out, which is pretty pointless. Not hearing that any offers have been made to pay players out but would doubt very much our esteemed owner’s would entertain giving cash away . Also nearly all players are on 2 yr deals which means this yr and next payouts no chance This is the biggest worry of all - that we are contractually locked into a wooden spoon battle not just this season, but next as well. I really had high hopes for Fowler's appointment, but he's got pretty much everything wrong. Farks sake, calm down. Theres 7 players coming off contract plus not all the visa players are here on two year deals. And theres one senior player spot free on the roster roster so they can sign one player in January without moving anyone out who is not on a 2 year deal? Aldred is, Gilesphie is, Rod is, im pretty sure AAH and JOS are too ROD is defiantly in a two year deal but not expected to be a visa player. The others are less clearcut but besides: Aldred. Gilesphey o’Shay are perfectly serviceable HAL players. Holloway could be if he ever gets fit/motivated. I don't believe Gillesphey is an A League standard player, I'm not happy that he might be at Brisbane until the end of next season. And Aldred is borderline for me. Gillesphey has his moments agreed. But I’m less harsh on him maybe because the back three exposes all defenders .... but he has a killer left boot, can tackle and his series stats are up there with the best. The only thong with Aldred for me is he doesn’t look like a captain.
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With a bye this round, it will be interesting to see if it does turn around our form and inspire us to get results. I think the bye round has come at a good time and will give the players some time to unwind and not have to worry about getting another result straight away.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think the players could certainly be better, but I think there is absolutely an issue with the coaching, and this shows when you look at how disorganised we look. No players know where to run or who to pass to. That to me is the coaches job to work out, and drill into the players so they can play as a cohesive unit. The players in the most dangerous teams all have a shared understanding of where they, and the ball will be at any given time, and that is why they can so easily dismantle opposition teams. I suppose the next question should be , what players would make the move in January after watching Fowler’s first 9 games ,clearly he is out of his depth and his 2 offsiders look clueless , yes he may turn it around but the games v Jets , WSW and City will make or break him I think. I suppose it depends on what Fowler is willing to say/do. If there are some promising youngsters not getting game time and he gives a promise of game time, they may be convinced. Not sure that is what we need, however. I can't imagine any of the senior players would be willing to leave without having their contract paid out, which is pretty pointless. Not hearing that any offers have been made to pay players out but would doubt very much our esteemed owner’s would entertain giving cash away . Also nearly all players are on 2 yr deals which means this yr and next payouts no chance This is the biggest worry of all - that we are contractually locked into a wooden spoon battle not just this season, but next as well. I really had high hopes for Fowler's appointment, but he's got pretty much everything wrong. Farks sake, calm down. Theres 7 players coming off contract plus not all the visa players are here on two year deals. And theres one senior player spot free on the roster roster so they can sign one player in January without moving anyone out who is not on a 2 year deal? Aldred is, Gilesphie is, Rod is, im pretty sure AAH and JOS are too ROD is defiantly in a two year deal but not expected to be a visa player. The others are less clearcut but besides: Aldred. Gilesphey o’Shay are perfectly serviceable HAL players. Holloway could be if he ever gets fit/motivated. I don't believe Gillesphey is an A League standard player, I'm not happy that he might be at Brisbane until the end of next season. And Aldred is borderline for me. Gillesphey has his moments agreed. But I’m less harsh on him maybe because the back three exposes all defenders .... but he has a killer left boot, can tackle and his series stats are up there with the best. The only thong with Aldred for me is he doesn’t look like a captain. Amazing thing is if the local boys make a mistake they are “never to play for roar again” However if one of the pommie backpacking boys let in a few goals it’s all good because he has a “killer left boot”
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Waz
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think the players could certainly be better, but I think there is absolutely an issue with the coaching, and this shows when you look at how disorganised we look. No players know where to run or who to pass to. That to me is the coaches job to work out, and drill into the players so they can play as a cohesive unit. The players in the most dangerous teams all have a shared understanding of where they, and the ball will be at any given time, and that is why they can so easily dismantle opposition teams. I suppose the next question should be , what players would make the move in January after watching Fowler’s first 9 games ,clearly he is out of his depth and his 2 offsiders look clueless , yes he may turn it around but the games v Jets , WSW and City will make or break him I think. I suppose it depends on what Fowler is willing to say/do. If there are some promising youngsters not getting game time and he gives a promise of game time, they may be convinced. Not sure that is what we need, however. I can't imagine any of the senior players would be willing to leave without having their contract paid out, which is pretty pointless. Not hearing that any offers have been made to pay players out but would doubt very much our esteemed owner’s would entertain giving cash away . Also nearly all players are on 2 yr deals which means this yr and next payouts no chance This is the biggest worry of all - that we are contractually locked into a wooden spoon battle not just this season, but next as well. I really had high hopes for Fowler's appointment, but he's got pretty much everything wrong. Farks sake, calm down. Theres 7 players coming off contract plus not all the visa players are here on two year deals. And theres one senior player spot free on the roster roster so they can sign one player in January without moving anyone out who is not on a 2 year deal? Aldred is, Gilesphie is, Rod is, im pretty sure AAH and JOS are too ROD is defiantly in a two year deal but not expected to be a visa player. The others are less clearcut but besides: Aldred. Gilesphey o’Shay are perfectly serviceable HAL players. Holloway could be if he ever gets fit/motivated. I don't believe Gillesphey is an A League standard player, I'm not happy that he might be at Brisbane until the end of next season. And Aldred is borderline for me. Gillesphey has his moments agreed. But I’m less harsh on him maybe because the back three exposes all defenders .... but he has a killer left boot, can tackle and his series stats are up there with the best. The only thong with Aldred for me is he doesn’t look like a captain. Amazing thing is if the local boys make a mistake they are “never to play for roar again” However if one of the pommie backpacking boys let in a few goals it’s all good because he has a “killer left boot” That comment makes no sense. Don’t bother trolling my comments any more - it’s getting fucking tiresome dick head.
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Roy O’Donnovon to be an Aussie citizen by Australia Day 2020 freeing up a visa spot.
I know that will upset a few anti-Roar supporters and the odd dick head that are squatting on these pages lately, but tough.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think the players could certainly be better, but I think there is absolutely an issue with the coaching, and this shows when you look at how disorganised we look. No players know where to run or who to pass to. That to me is the coaches job to work out, and drill into the players so they can play as a cohesive unit. The players in the most dangerous teams all have a shared understanding of where they, and the ball will be at any given time, and that is why they can so easily dismantle opposition teams. I suppose the next question should be , what players would make the move in January after watching Fowler’s first 9 games ,clearly he is out of his depth and his 2 offsiders look clueless , yes he may turn it around but the games v Jets , WSW and City will make or break him I think. I suppose it depends on what Fowler is willing to say/do. If there are some promising youngsters not getting game time and he gives a promise of game time, they may be convinced. Not sure that is what we need, however. I can't imagine any of the senior players would be willing to leave without having their contract paid out, which is pretty pointless. Not hearing that any offers have been made to pay players out but would doubt very much our esteemed owner’s would entertain giving cash away . Also nearly all players are on 2 yr deals which means this yr and next payouts no chance This is the biggest worry of all - that we are contractually locked into a wooden spoon battle not just this season, but next as well. I really had high hopes for Fowler's appointment, but he's got pretty much everything wrong. Farks sake, calm down. Theres 7 players coming off contract plus not all the visa players are here on two year deals. And theres one senior player spot free on the roster roster so they can sign one player in January without moving anyone out who is not on a 2 year deal? Aldred is, Gilesphie is, Rod is, im pretty sure AAH and JOS are too ROD is defiantly in a two year deal but not expected to be a visa player. The others are less clearcut but besides: Aldred. Gilesphey o’Shay are perfectly serviceable HAL players. Holloway could be if he ever gets fit/motivated. I don't believe Gillesphey is an A League standard player, I'm not happy that he might be at Brisbane until the end of next season. And Aldred is borderline for me. Gillesphey has his moments agreed. But I’m less harsh on him maybe because the back three exposes all defenders .... but he has a killer left boot, can tackle and his series stats are up there with the best. The only thong with Aldred for me is he doesn’t look like a captain. Amazing thing is if the local boys make a mistake they are “never to play for roar again” However if one of the pommie backpacking boys let in a few goals it’s all good because he has a “killer left boot” That comment makes no sense. Don’t bother trolling my comments any more - it’s getting fucking tiresome dick head. I agree that the comment makes no sense, but ffs Waz, the rest of it is way over the top.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think the players could certainly be better, but I think there is absolutely an issue with the coaching, and this shows when you look at how disorganised we look. No players know where to run or who to pass to. That to me is the coaches job to work out, and drill into the players so they can play as a cohesive unit. The players in the most dangerous teams all have a shared understanding of where they, and the ball will be at any given time, and that is why they can so easily dismantle opposition teams. I suppose the next question should be , what players would make the move in January after watching Fowler’s first 9 games ,clearly he is out of his depth and his 2 offsiders look clueless , yes he may turn it around but the games v Jets , WSW and City will make or break him I think. I suppose it depends on what Fowler is willing to say/do. If there are some promising youngsters not getting game time and he gives a promise of game time, they may be convinced. Not sure that is what we need, however. I can't imagine any of the senior players would be willing to leave without having their contract paid out, which is pretty pointless. Not hearing that any offers have been made to pay players out but would doubt very much our esteemed owner’s would entertain giving cash away . Also nearly all players are on 2 yr deals which means this yr and next payouts no chance This is the biggest worry of all - that we are contractually locked into a wooden spoon battle not just this season, but next as well. I really had high hopes for Fowler's appointment, but he's got pretty much everything wrong. Farks sake, calm down. Theres 7 players coming off contract plus not all the visa players are here on two year deals. And theres one senior player spot free on the roster roster so they can sign one player in January without moving anyone out who is not on a 2 year deal? Aldred is, Gilesphie is, Rod is, im pretty sure AAH and JOS are too ROD is defiantly in a two year deal but not expected to be a visa player. The others are less clearcut but besides: Aldred. Gilesphey o’Shay are perfectly serviceable HAL players. Holloway could be if he ever gets fit/motivated. I don't believe Gillesphey is an A League standard player, I'm not happy that he might be at Brisbane until the end of next season. And Aldred is borderline for me. Gillesphey has his moments agreed. But I’m less harsh on him maybe because the back three exposes all defenders .... but he has a killer left boot, can tackle and his series stats are up there with the best. The only thong with Aldred for me is he doesn’t look like a captain. Meanwhile, in a universe far, far away...
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