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paulbagzFC wrote:ozboy wrote:imonfourfourtwo wrote:ozboy wrote:thupercoach wrote:ozboy wrote:Because your mates at Liberal Election Marketing HQ, a.k.a News Corp, deemed it be so. How are Obama's spin doctors going at making Kevvie look presidential? Costing Labor a pretty penny, unlike the free Liberal advertising from News Corp. Then again, I guess News Corp are only preaching to the converted, considering its old people who buy printed news and vote conservative. I'm young and I buy newspapers. Admittedly it is a $15 annual subscription of the digital version, but it's still the same newspaper you find in the newsagents nonetheless. Rather than say 'on average', can't I talk unqualified like batfink? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: -PB how's your day going chester????? glorious weather here in god's country, after those winds last night and a 4 hours power outage
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ozboy wrote:imonfourfourtwo wrote:ozboy wrote:thupercoach wrote:ozboy wrote:Because your mates at Liberal Election Marketing HQ, a.k.a News Corp, deemed it be so. How are Obama's spin doctors going at making Kevvie look presidential? Costing Labor a pretty penny, unlike the free Liberal advertising from News Corp. Then again, I guess News Corp are only preaching to the converted, considering its old people who buy printed news and vote conservative. I'm young and I buy newspapers. Admittedly it is a $15 annual subscription of the digital version, but it's still the same newspaper you find in the newsagents nonetheless. Rather than say 'on average', can't I talk unqualified like batfink? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: -PB
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batfink
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ozboy wrote:imonfourfourtwo wrote:ozboy wrote:thupercoach wrote:ozboy wrote:Because your mates at Liberal Election Marketing HQ, a.k.a News Corp, deemed it be so. How are Obama's spin doctors going at making Kevvie look presidential? Costing Labor a pretty penny, unlike the free Liberal advertising from News Corp. Then again, I guess News Corp are only preaching to the converted, considering its old people who buy printed news and vote conservative. I'm young and I buy newspapers. Admittedly it is a $15 annual subscription of the digital version, but it's still the same newspaper you find in the newsagents nonetheless. Rather than say 'on average', can't I talk unqualified like batfink? you are unqualified alright.....;) :-"
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ozboy
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imonfourfourtwo wrote:ozboy wrote:thupercoach wrote:ozboy wrote:Because your mates at Liberal Election Marketing HQ, a.k.a News Corp, deemed it be so. How are Obama's spin doctors going at making Kevvie look presidential? Costing Labor a pretty penny, unlike the free Liberal advertising from News Corp. Then again, I guess News Corp are only preaching to the converted, considering its old people who buy printed news and vote conservative. I'm young and I buy newspapers. Admittedly it is a $15 annual subscription of the digital version, but it's still the same newspaper you find in the newsagents nonetheless. Rather than say 'on average', can't I talk unqualified like batfink?
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batfink
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imonfourfourtwo wrote:ozboy wrote:thupercoach wrote:ozboy wrote:Because your mates at Liberal Election Marketing HQ, a.k.a News Corp, deemed it be so. How are Obama's spin doctors going at making Kevvie look presidential? Costing Labor a pretty penny, unlike the free Liberal advertising from News Corp. Then again, I guess News Corp are only preaching to the converted, considering its old people who buy printed news and vote conservative. I'm young and I buy newspapers. Admittedly it is a $15 annual subscription of the digital version, but it's still the same newspaper you find in the newsagents nonetheless. well you must be old and vote conservative.....;)
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ozboy wrote:thupercoach wrote:ozboy wrote:Because your mates at Liberal Election Marketing HQ, a.k.a News Corp, deemed it be so. How are Obama's spin doctors going at making Kevvie look presidential? Costing Labor a pretty penny, unlike the free Liberal advertising from News Corp. Then again, I guess News Corp are only preaching to the converted, considering its old people who buy printed news and vote conservative. I'm young and I buy newspapers. Admittedly it is a $15 annual subscription of the digital version, but it's still the same newspaper you find in the newsagents nonetheless.
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batfink
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ozboy wrote:thupercoach wrote:ozboy wrote:Because your mates at Liberal Election Marketing HQ, a.k.a News Corp, deemed it be so. How are Obama's spin doctors going at making Kevvie look presidential? Costing Labor a pretty penny, unlike the free Liberal advertising from News Corp. Then again, I guess News Corp are only preaching to the converted, considering its old people who buy printed news and vote conservative. pmsl
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thupercoach wrote:ozboy wrote:Because your mates at Liberal Election Marketing HQ, a.k.a News Corp, deemed it be so. How are Obama's spin doctors going at making Kevvie look presidential? Costing Labor a pretty penny, unlike the free Liberal advertising from News Corp. Then again, I guess News Corp are only preaching to the converted, considering its old people who buy printed news and vote conservative.
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ozboy wrote:Because your mates at Liberal Election Marketing HQ, a.k.a News Corp, deemed it be so. How are Obama's spin doctors going at making Kevvie look presidential?
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batfink
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same reason they go on about Abbotts suppository gaffe.....they are both as boring as batshit...... wait for it.....the door's open...
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ozboy
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Because your mates at Liberal Election Marketing HQ, a.k.a News Corp, deemed it be so.
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paulbagzFC
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Because the Australian public are becoming as stupid/spoonfed as Americans are and naturally our media outlets look to America for what to do. -PB
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batfink
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paulbagzFC wrote:Why are people still responding to batfink? :lol:
-PB oh look it's chester and spike again.....LOL [youtube]UVNHcob3oJg[/youtube]
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macktheknife wrote:Quote:Does it matter if it's a Federal asset or a state asset.....??????????????? still an asset of the people..............!!!!! What election are we talking about? Federal. So State Governments have nothing to do with this discussion. :shock: :shock: ](*,) ](*,)
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afromanGT wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:Why are people still responding to batfink? :lol:
-PB The same reason you breath in through your nose after you fart. You know it's going to be bad but you're still curious to see just HOW bad. Why were people so quick to bash Rudd for having prepped notes for the debate? What's wrong with the man having done some preparation so he doesn't look like a Jaymes Diaz sized twat? From what I've read when he approached the lectern he had nothing in his hands and he wrote the notes once he got there? -PB
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afromanGT wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:Why are people still responding to batfink? :lol:
-PB The same reason you breath in through your nose after you fart. You know it's going to be bad but you're still curious to see just HOW bad. Why were people so quick to bash Rudd for having prepped notes for the debate? What's wrong with the man having done some preparation so he doesn't look like a Jaymes Diaz sized twat? I'm ok with the notes, the whole debate thing is pretty ridiculous anyway. I think it surprised people though because Rudd is usually so damn slick when he is speaking publicly.
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paulbagzFC wrote:Why are people still responding to batfink? :lol:
-PB The same reason you breath in through your nose after you fart. You know it's going to be bad but you're still curious to see just HOW bad. Why were people so quick to bash Rudd for having prepped notes for the debate? What's wrong with the man having done some preparation so he doesn't look like a Jaymes Diaz sized twat?
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That sig Notor. =d> =d> =d>
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Chris Pyne just :lol: made himself look arrogant on qanda . Also the journi who asked. Rhys Muldoon do you like freedom is very gutter in my opinion
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Leigh Sales was a fucking pussycat with Matt Damon tonight. Shame ABC, Shame!
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Why are people still responding to batfink? :lol: -PB
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batfink wrote:macktheknife wrote:Quote:LNP gain power clean up the mess get the budget back on track and do all the hard yards then They don't do any hard yards, they just sell every public asset they can get their hands on. Imagine how much all the gold Costello sold for rock bottom prices would be worth now. Or how much Telstra would be making for the Government having already built a FTTN network in early 2000 followed by an NBN style FTTP, out of general revenue, if Howard had structurally seperated the wholesale and retail aspects of Telstra instead of fucking it up badly. Or how much all the airports they sold would be raking in right now. uuummmm sell public assests like Anna bligh did????????????????? and bobby carr??????????? every time Labor get in we go to shit in a handbag........simple fact.....deal with it....
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Quote:Does it matter if it's a Federal asset or a state asset.....??????????????? still an asset of the people..............!!!!! What election are we talking about? Federal. So State Governments have nothing to do with this discussion.
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macktheknife wrote:batfink wrote:macktheknife wrote:Quote:LNP gain power clean up the mess get the budget back on track and do all the hard yards then They don't do any hard yards, they just sell every public asset they can get their hands on. Imagine how much all the gold Costello sold for rock bottom prices would be worth now. Or how much Telstra would be making for the Government having already built a FTTN network in early 2000 followed by an NBN style FTTP, out of general revenue, if Howard had structurally seperated the wholesale and retail aspects of Telstra instead of fucking it up badly. Or how much all the airports they sold would be raking in right now. uuummmm sell public assests like Anna bligh did????????????????? and bobby carr??????????? every time Labor get in we go to shit in a handbag........simple fact.....deal with it.... I hate all sales of public assets to private corporations, it destroys the capability of the Government to secure vital infrastructure, to ensure said infrastructure isn't left to rot in the ground by profit driven private corporations, and to build and expand in areas that do not deliver what a private company would consider appropriate returns. Also, Anna Bligh & Bob Carr don't have anything to do with selling Federal Government assets. Labor might send everything to shit according to you, although this Government managed to get us through the GFC unscathed, unlike all the countries using the Liberals preferred policy of austerity, but at least they aren't selling the assets that can make money and/or provide services to the nation. batfink wrote:as far as utilities making money...IF the State Labor party had of built the roads for themselves they would be raking in $350 million a year in NSW, and the resident of sydney would be paying tolls fot a long time less or the very least for reinvestment in further projects....so in bounces both ways MAC Like I said, I hate PPP's on new infrastructure and the selling of existing infrastructure. It does bounce both ways, but the Liberal Government have the track record in this area and it's a very poor one, both in terms of outcomes achieved through sell-offs (EG Completely fucking up the Telstra sale), and in terms of what was gained through the same (EG: Selling our gold at rock bottom prices, or giving up the massive monopoly profits that owning our Airports gave the Government). Does it matter if it's a Federal asset or a state asset.....??????????????? still an asset of the people..............!!!!! ...i would have to say that Labor's record is no better...however i digress...... i would argue that when the ALP are in power these utilities get loaded up with union power and the get heavier and heavier with more and more people required to achieve the same result and that's where the privatising drive comes from because productivity dives in the arse...... i mentioned Bobby Carr trying to sell off the electricity utility in NSW wales some time ago....they also deregulated the industry at the same time...the end result was that at that time deaths in the industry Australia wide were running at around 12-13 a year....after the deregulation the deaths have increased to 4 times that level..... when Carr was preparing the utility for sale he sacked large numbers of inspectors,linesmen,high voltage workers and turner off all of the maintenance to make the utility more attractive on paper for the sale......so what resulted was a massive accumulation of works required to get the network...(poles & wires & transformers) back up to the level prior to the sale attempt.... he failed to sell the utility..........so after this government who came after Carr were left with huge problems getting the network back up to scratch..... so what is required is balance.....yes i know stupid batfink rants about balance all the time...but i run my life and my business on the KISS method....Keep It Simple Stupid...... you drink to much you get a hangover.....balance required... you screw to much you get lovers balls....enjoyable but balance required... was it newtons law???? every action has an equal and opposite reaction????? not sure but something like that......
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batfink wrote:macktheknife wrote:Quote:LNP gain power clean up the mess get the budget back on track and do all the hard yards then They don't do any hard yards, they just sell every public asset they can get their hands on. Imagine how much all the gold Costello sold for rock bottom prices would be worth now. Or how much Telstra would be making for the Government having already built a FTTN network in early 2000 followed by an NBN style FTTP, out of general revenue, if Howard had structurally seperated the wholesale and retail aspects of Telstra instead of fucking it up badly. Or how much all the airports they sold would be raking in right now. uuummmm sell public assests like Anna bligh did????????????????? and bobby carr??????????? every time Labor get in we go to shit in a handbag........simple fact.....deal with it.... I hate all sales of public assets to private corporations, it destroys the capability of the Government to secure vital infrastructure, to ensure said infrastructure isn't left to rot in the ground by profit driven private corporations, and to build and expand in areas that do not deliver what a private company would consider appropriate returns. Also, Anna Bligh & Bob Carr don't have anything to do with selling Federal Government assets. Labor might send everything to shit according to you, although this Government managed to get us through the GFC unscathed, unlike all the countries using the Liberals preferred policy of austerity, but at least they aren't selling the assets that can make money and/or provide services to the nation. batfink wrote:as far as utilities making money...IF the State Labor party had of built the roads for themselves they would be raking in $350 million a year in NSW, and the resident of sydney would be paying tolls fot a long time less or the very least for reinvestment in further projects....so in bounces both ways MAC Like I said, I hate PPP's on new infrastructure and the selling of existing infrastructure. It does bounce both ways, but the Liberal Government have the track record in this area and it's a very poor one, both in terms of outcomes achieved through sell-offs (EG Completely fucking up the Telstra sale), and in terms of what was gained through the same (EG: Selling our gold at rock bottom prices, or giving up the massive monopoly profits that owning our Airports gave the Government).
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batfink wrote:as far as utilities making money...IF the State Labor party had of built the roads for themselves they would be raking in $350 million a year in NSW, and the resident of sydney would be paying tolls fot a long time less or the very least for reinvestment in further projects....so in bounces both ways MAC Agreed. Private Public partnerships just make things far more expensive as the government pays millions (potentially billions) of dollars extra in interest repayments to their private partners. This debate is going on right now in Victoria where the state government is putting all other infrastructure projects on hold for basically a decade while they go ahead with the eastern link to Flemington (hardly the west). Spending billions of dollars on a road that less than twenty percent of Eastern Freeway drivers would use is a huge waste of money and PPP would just make that worse.
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as far as utilities making money...IF the State Labor party had of built the roads for themselves they would be raking in $350 million a year in NSW, and the resident of sydney would be paying tolls fot a long time less or the very least for reinvestment in further projects....so in bounces both ways MAC
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macktheknife wrote:Quote:LNP gain power clean up the mess get the budget back on track and do all the hard yards then They don't do any hard yards, they just sell every public asset they can get their hands on. Imagine how much all the gold Costello sold for rock bottom prices would be worth now. Or how much Telstra would be making for the Government having already built a FTTN network in early 2000 followed by an NBN style FTTP, out of general revenue, if Howard had structurally seperated the wholesale and retail aspects of Telstra instead of fucking it up badly. Or how much all the airports they sold would be raking in right now. uuummmm sell public assests like Anna bligh did????????????????? and bobby carr??????????? every time Labor get in we go to shit in a handbag........simple fact.....deal with it....
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Quote:LNP gain power clean up the mess get the budget back on track and do all the hard yards then They don't do any hard yards, they just sell every public asset they can get their hands on. Imagine how much all the gold Costello sold for rock bottom prices would be worth now. Or how much Telstra would be making for the Government having already built a FTTN network in early 2000 followed by an NBN style FTTP, out of general revenue, if Howard had structurally seperated the wholesale and retail aspects of Telstra instead of fucking it up badly. Or how much all the airports they sold would be raking in right now.
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