The Australian Politics thread: Prime Minister Anthony Albanese


The Australian Politics thread: Prime Minister Anthony Albanese

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Enzo Bearzot - 17 Apr 2024 7:09 PM
tsf - 17 Apr 2024 8:43 AM

Yea that's because you're too fucking stupid.

To dumb it down so you're peanut brain can understand, the earlier central point was that the justice system has been politicized.  Our Judges who are supposed to be  above the politics, the media, their own biases and prejuduces and are anything but. Pell's wrongful imprisonment was an example.

You insinuated that it wasthe political right that was responsible for the Catholic Church failures to protect children from pedo priests

Well, Marxists hate religion and the Austalian MSM hates Christians (Muslims are too risky and Jews are a protected group, until a few months ago).  It was the Marxist Victorian government, the most leftist outside of the shithole known as Canberra that failed to protect 109 children from 4 pedo state teachers.  Where was the media frenzy and the outrage of this gross failure of secularism, where are the Court cases, where are the jail sentences? 

Same crime, different justice.

If you can't keep up, then log off.

I am not insinuating anything. I am stating clearly that you are trying to justify the paedo network.
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Enzo Bearzot - 17 Apr 2024 6:53 PM
tsf - 17 Apr 2024 8:41 AM

You're a fucking disgrace.

from someone who oes in to bat for cretins and enablers of child abuse I take that as a compliment. 
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There isn’t any evidence that Pell knowingly protected paediphiles. When he was a priest in Ballarat the Commission found that it was “implausible” that he did not know of a particular offending priests crimes involving young boys, but as he was just a low ranking priest at the time he himself was not personally responsible for relocating that priest to another archdiocese. But of course implausible things happen all the time, and Pell always maintained his innocence with respect to this matter, as he did with regards to the Victorian criminal case that was brought before him, successfully prosecuted to a jury and upheld by the court of appeals, only to be fully exonerated by the Highest court in the land. In fact the Commission dismissed almost all of the allegations made against him, and largely exonerated him of being anything other than a good man and faithful servant of his community.

I know all of this because I had heard on the grapevine that he was this terrible person who spent his life protecting and relocated and covered up the crimes of dozens of offending priests, but of course when I did research I found that it was all a bunch of baloney pushed by anti Catholic zealots using paedophile victims to wage a cultural war on the church. 

So when TSF and others rant about Pell and his imaginary crimes, rest assured that the driving force of this isn’t moral indignation and concern for young molested boys, it’s their anti Catholic bigotry. If Pell was a Muslim or a Jew or a teacher or a doctor or a member of the progressive wing or the Labor party then wouldn’t care on iota. 

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Yeah the catholic church are the real victims here. 

Amazing the mental gymnastics here to simply not take accountability for child abuse. 

And the only thing here that is imaginary are your sky faiiries

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tsf - 18 Apr 2024 1:49 PM
Yeah the catholic church are the real victims here. 


Thank you for acknowledging this
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Enzo Bearzot - 17 Apr 2024 7:09 PM
tsf - 17 Apr 2024 8:43 AM

Well, Marxists hate religion and the Austalian MSM hates Christians (Muslims are too risky and Jews are a protected group, until a few months ago).  It was the Marxist Victorian government, the most leftist outside of the shithole known as Canberra that failed to protect 109 children from 4 pedo state teachers.  Where was the media frenzy and the outrage of this gross failure of secularism, where are the Court cases, where are the jail sentences? 

Wait, what did Canberra have to do with that?

Or am I supposed to be reading that as 'Canberra is a shithole' and 'that happened in Victoria'?
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Enzo Bearzot - 17 Apr 2024 7:09 PM

Wait, what did Canberra have to do with that?

Or am I supposed to be reading that as 'Canberra is a shithole' and 'that happened in Victoria'?

Sounds like something a typical marxist would say. Fuck you marxist.


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Just a friendly reminder that Lehrmann has a committal hearing in Toowoomba in June for 2 counts of alleged rape.

But you know, nothing to see here.


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tsf - 18 Apr 2024 12:00 PM
Enzo Bearzot - 17 Apr 2024 7:09 PM

I am not insinuating anything. I am stating clearly that you are trying to justify the paedo network.

Then I am clearly saying you are still a fuckwit, fuckwit.

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NicCarBel - 18 Apr 2024 2:22 PM
Enzo Bearzot - 17 Apr 2024 7:09 PM

Wait, what did Canberra have to do with that?

Or am I supposed to be reading that as 'Canberra is a shithole' and 'that happened in Victoria'?

Both are left wing shitholes, full of left wing shitheads.  Where was the Socialist People's Republic of Victoria protecting the 109 (that afre known of) abused school children within its government school system.

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tsf - 18 Apr 2024 1:49 PM
Yeah the catholic church are the real victims here. 

Amazing the mental gymnastics here to simply not take accountability for child abuse. 

And the only thing here that is imaginary are your sky faiiries

So The Simple Fan is that like when the secular government allowed hundreds of school children to be abused for decades and only took accountability last year?  That sort of mental gymnastics?

Where's your and Muzzies outrage?  Where is the media outrage?  Where are the jaile sentences for those leaders in the government under whose watch it all happened?

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roosty - 18 Apr 2024 1:26 PM
There isn’t any evidence that Pell knowingly protected paediphiles. When he was a priest in Ballarat the Commission found that it was “implausible” that he did not know of a particular offending priests crimes involving young boys, but as he was just a low ranking priest at the time he himself was not personally responsible for relocating that priest to another archdiocese. But of course implausible things happen all the time, and Pell always maintained his innocence with respect to this matter, as he did with regards to the Victorian criminal case that was brought before him, successfully prosecuted to a jury and upheld by the court of appeals, only to be fully exonerated by the Highest court in the land. In fact the Commission dismissed almost all of the allegations made against him, and largely exonerated him of being anything other than a good man and faithful servant of his community.

I know all of this because I had heard on the grapevine that he was this terrible person who spent his life protecting and relocated and covered up the crimes of dozens of offending priests, but of course when I did research I found that it was all a bunch of baloney pushed by anti Catholic zealots using paedophile victims to wage a cultural war on the church. 

So when TSF and others rant about Pell and his imaginary crimes, rest assured that the driving force of this isn’t moral indignation and concern for young molested boys, it’s their anti Catholic bigotry. If Pell was a Muslim or a Jew or a teacher or a doctor or a member of the progressive wing or the Labor party then wouldn’t care on iota. 


Or if it happened under the secular public shool system.  These zealots care not one iota for the abuse. What matters is the political mileage they can get from it.

But TSF and Mu know better than SEVEN hgh Court Justices.

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Enzo Bearzot - 23 Apr 2024 9:25 PM
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Or if it happened under the secular public shool system.  These zealots care not one iota for the abuse. What matters is the political mileage they can get from it.

But TSF and Mu know better than SEVEN hgh Court Justices.

Wait what? Since when did I say abuse in secular institutions was OK? I know it suits you to say I said that, even though I never did, because it frames me where you want to put me.

Don't put words in my mouth you silly little man.


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Munrubenmuz - 23 Apr 2024 10:00 PM
Enzo Bearzot - 23 Apr 2024 9:25 PM

Wait what? Since when did I say abuse in secular institutions was OK? I know it suits you to say I said that, even though I never did, because it frames me where you want to put me.

Don't put words in my mouth you silly little man.

Well where is where is your outrage?  A White Knight like you surely you'd be leading from the front and demanding justice?  How can the leaders of secular instutions not be held accountable?  None have been jailed, and aknowldgement occured just this year.  Why aren't you as angry that no-one has been charged let alone jailed?

So here's your chance. Do you know more than SEVEN High Court Justices about Pell's case.  Did the SEVEN High Court Justices get it wrong on overturning Pell's conviction?

 Or are you- as becoming patently obvious-just another boring pretentious ;leftard hypocrite?

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Enzo Bearzot - 23 Apr 2024 10:31 PM
Munrubenmuz - 23 Apr 2024 10:00 PM

Well where is where is your outrage?  A White Knight like you surely you'd be leading from the front and demanding justice?  How can the leaders of secular instutions not be held accountable?  None have been jailed, and aknowldgement occured just this year.  Why aren't you as angry that no-one has been charged let alone jailed?

So here's your chance. Do you know more than SEVEN High Court Justices about Pell's case.  Did the SEVEN High Court Justices get it wrong on overturning Pell's conviction?

 Or are you- as becoming patently obvious-just another boring pretentious ;leftard hypocrite?

I'd rather be a white knight than a selfish, narcissistic misanthrope.

So disappointed I didn't get the 'Marxist' insult you usually dole out. Will have to live with 'leftard'.

 You need to start to learn to read chump. When and where did I saw the 7 high court judges were wrong. I didn't. Not once. Ever.

As for 'where's my outrage?' Ooh that is a gotcha by you isn't it? Pull up stumps, we're done because I'm not outraged by something I didn't even know about until the other day.

Got me.





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Munrubenmuz - 23 Apr 2024 10:50 PM
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I'd rather be a white knight than a selfish, narcissistic misanthrope.

So disappointed I didn't get the 'Marxist' insult you usually dole out. Will have to live with 'leftard'.

 You need to start to learn to read chump. When and where did I saw the 7 high court judges were wrong. I didn't. Not once. Ever.

As for 'where's my outrage?' Ooh that is a gotcha by you isn't it? Pull up stumps, we're done because I'm not outraged by something I didn't even know about until the other day.

Got me.



So you agree that the  High Court Judges were right to find that Pell was falsely convicted and jailed?  And that the THREE lower Court Judges who convicted him were wrong?   They fucked up- like I said earlier in this thread.

Do you question WHY those THREE Judges came to the incorrect decision that they did in Pell's case? What  might have influenced them to GET IT SO COMPLETELY WRONG that not ONE of the High Court agreed with them?  Not for a fucking a minute, because the decision suits your utter hate for religion, and if it means the leaders are falsely jailed, then that is even better.

Like all SJW's you don't give a fuck about Justice.  Its all about the politics for people like you.  That's why you're so contemptable.

And now like the other SJW's, you're jizzing all over your curtains that a Judge (experienced in defamation and not criminal law) found Lehrman guilty of a crime, to the civil not criminal standard, mind.  In your mind, there is no possibility that he too could have fucked up and be influenced by extraneous factors. Like the three that wrongly convicted Pell.

Oh FYI there is at least one legal expert who believes his lawyers would be stupid not to appeal.



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Albo, Plibersek  and his Minister of Truth Inman Grant on a war path with X owner Elon Musk for daring to keep uplaoaded the video of the stabbing of a Christian Priest by a muslim 15 year old.

This is a private international business, but Australia thinks it can decide on behalf of the world.

Silent when social media has been doing the Left's bidding tough.

Just as in Orwell's book this goivernment wants decide what is misinfofrmation and disinformation through censorship

At the same time Australians own ABC has multiple videos uploaded on its youtube channels showing the video up to the point of the stabbing.

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Enzo Bearzot - 24 Apr 2024 8:24 AM
Albo, Plibersek  and his Minister of Truth Inman Grant on a war path with X owner Elon Musk for daring to keep uplaoaded the video of the stabbing of a Christian Priest by a muslim 15 year old.

This is a private international business, but Australia thinks it can decide on behalf of the world.

Silent when social media has been doing the Left's bidding tough.

Just as in Orwell's book this goivernment wants decide what is misinfofrmation and disinformation through censorship

At the same time Australians own ABC has multiple videos uploaded on its youtube channels showing the video up to the point of the stabbing.

twitter? the same twitter that has already censored and removed content on behalf of the likes of belarus, hungary, Saudi arabia, turkey and russia? lol yeah your warrior of free speech right there

you know there are already laws around violent and sexual imagery etc being broadcast, or are you one of those weirdo libertarians that want to use it as a mask to be able to see even worse/sick content while screaming 'free speech'...

"At the same time Australians own ABC has multiple videos uploaded on its youtube channels showing the video up to the point of the stabbing." lol, so they don;t show it? way to prove the point 


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Enzo Bearzot - 23 Apr 2024 11:06 PM
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So you agree that the  High Court Judges were right to find that Pell was falsely convicted and jailed?  And that the THREE lower Court Judges who convicted him were wrong?   They fucked up- like I said earlier in this thread.

Do you question WHY those THREE Judges came to the incorrect decision that they did in Pell's case? What  might have influenced them to GET IT SO COMPLETELY WRONG that not ONE of the High Court agreed with them?  Not for a fucking a minute, because the decision suits your utter hate for religion, and if it means the leaders are falsely jailed, then that is even better.

Like all SJW's you don't give a fuck about Justice.  Its all about the politics for people like you.  That's why you're so contemptable.

And now like the other SJW's, you're jizzing all over your curtains that a Judge (experienced in defamation and not criminal law) found Lehrman guilty of a crime, to the civil not criminal standard, mind.  In your mind, there is no possibility that he too could have fucked up and be influenced by extraneous factors. Like the three that wrongly convicted Pell.

Oh FYI there is at least one legal expert who believes his lawyers would be stupid not to appeal.



I admire passion in people, but when it's to rabidly defend a paedo or at best a paedo enabler, it's rather concerning. 
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Enzo Bearzot - 23 Apr 2024 9:15 PM
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Both are left wing shitholes, full of left wing shitheads.  Where was the Socialist People's Republic of Victoria protecting the 109 (that afre known of) abused school children within its government school system.

Yep, I'm one of the minorities here
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tsf - 24 Apr 2024 9:11 AM
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twitter? the same twitter that has already censored and removed content on behalf of the likes of belarus, hungary, Saudi arabia, turkey and russia? lol yeah your warrior of free speech right there

you know there are already laws around violent and sexual imagery etc being broadcast, or are you one of those weirdo libertarians that want to use it as a mask to be able to see even worse/sick content while screaming 'free speech'...

"At the same time Australians own ABC has multiple videos uploaded on its youtube channels showing the video up to the point of the stabbing." lol, so they don;t show it? way to prove the point 


Enzo probably thinks child porn should and snuff videos are OK because 'censorship', 'George Orwell', 'Marxists', 'leftards' etc..

It's funny to see Enzo defending twitter now because it's a PRIVATE COMPANY, because when twitter, A PRIVATE COMPANY, banned Trump they lost their shit.

And then he has the hide to call the left hypocrites.

Weird and delusional. As usual.





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Enzo Bearzot - 23 Apr 2024 11:06 PM
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So you agree that the  High Court Judges were right to find that Pell was falsely convicted and jailed?


No I don't 'agree' because I'm not a high court judge, I didn't sit in the case and I don't have 40 years experience in the legal profession.

If they say he was falsely convicted then that's enough for me. 

I don't need to issue a dissenting decision based on the 'vibe' or what I thought was going through the judges mind's when they made their decision.

Something you think you can do.


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Munrubenmuz - 24 Apr 2024 10:00 AM
tsf - 24 Apr 2024 9:11 AM

It's funny to see Enzo defending twitter now because it's a PRIVATE COMPANY, because when twitter, A PRIVATE COMPANY, banned Trump they lost their shit.



lol true. same guy who lost it over Woolworths (a private company) not selling Australia day merchandise 
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Munrubenmuz - 24 Apr 2024 10:03 AM
Enzo Bearzot - 23 Apr 2024 11:06 PM

No I don't 'agree' because I'm not a high court judge, I didn't sit in the case and I don't have 40 years experience in the legal profession.

If they say he was falsely convicted then that's enough for me. 

I don't need to issue a dissenting decision based on the 'vibe' or what I thought was going through the judges mind's when they made their decision.

Something you think you can do.

I admire passion in people, but when it's to rabidly defend a paedo or at best a paedo enabler, it's rather concerning. 

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Munrubenmuz - 24 Apr 2024 10:00 AM
tsf - 24 Apr 2024 9:11 AM

Enzo probably thinks child porn should and snuff videos are OK because 'censorship', 'George Orwell', 'Marxists', 'leftards' etc..

It's funny to see Enzo defending twitter now because it's a PRIVATE COMPANY, because when twitter, A PRIVATE COMPANY, banned Trump they lost their shit.

And then he has the hide to call the left hypocrites.

Weird and delusional. As usual.



I'm not defending Twitter you dickhead,

I'm highlighting the hypocrisy that both you and The Simple Fool lack the self-awareness to recognize.

And quit with the disgusting insinuations because I can take it there, wanker.
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tsf - 24 Apr 2024 10:42 AM
Munrubenmuz - 24 Apr 2024 10:00 AM

lol true. same guy who lost it over Woolworths (a private company) not selling Australia day merchandise 


And of course a simpleton like you misses the point entirely.
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Munrubenmuz - 23 Apr 2024 10:50 PM
Enzo Bearzot - 23 Apr 2024 10:31 PM

I'd rather be a white knight than a selfish, narcissistic misanthrope.

So disappointed I didn't get the 'Marxist' insult you usually dole out. Will have to live with 'leftard'.

 You need to start to learn to read chump. When and where did I saw the 7 high court judges were wrong. I didn't. Not once. Ever.

As for 'where's my outrage?' Ooh that is a gotcha by you isn't it? Pull up stumps, we're done because I'm not outraged by something I didn't even know about until the other day.

Got me.





On the bolded bit...the fact that you or anybody else didn't know about IS THE FUCKING POINT.

WHY isn't it front page of all the MSM?  Where is the outrage?  Where are the criminal charges?  Where are the jailings?. This has been going on for decades with the secular school system why only has this been admitted by the government as having happened

Same crime.  Different justice.

Leftards don't give a flying fuck about justice for the victims child sexual abuse if there is no political advantage or worse harms it.
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Enzo Bearzot - 23 Apr 2024 11:06 PM
Munrubenmuz - 23 Apr 2024 10:50 PM

So you agree that the  High Court Judges were right to find that Pell was falsely convicted and jailed?  And that the THREE lower Court Judges who convicted him were wrong?   They fucked up- like I said earlier in this thread.

Do you question WHY those THREE Judges came to the incorrect decision that they did in Pell's case? What  might have influenced them to GET IT SO COMPLETELY WRONG that not ONE of the High Court agreed with them?  Not for a fucking a minute, because the decision suits your utter hate for religion, and if it means the leaders are falsely jailed, then that is even better.

Like all SJW's you don't give a fuck about Justice.  Its all about the politics for people like you.  That's why you're so contemptable.

And now like the other SJW's, you're jizzing all over your curtains that a Judge (experienced in defamation and not criminal law) found Lehrman guilty of a crime, to the civil not criminal standard, mind.  In your mind, there is no possibility that he too could have fucked up and be influenced by extraneous factors. Like the three that wrongly convicted Pell.

Oh FYI there is at least one legal expert who believes his lawyers would be stupid not to appeal.



Small point of contention there Enzo.. The judge did not rule that little grubby rapist GUILTY of any crime... it was a defamation case he was ruling on... 


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Monoethnic Social Club - 24 Apr 2024 2:19 PM
Enzo Bearzot - 23 Apr 2024 11:06 PM

Small point of contention there Enzo.. The judge did not rule that little grubby rapist GUILTY of any crime... it was a defamation case he was ruling on... 


and unfortunately because of a highly suspicious move by a jury member the criminal case was aborted 
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