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South-West misses out in APL bid
SOUTH-WEST has missed out on securing a place in the Australian Premier League Queensland Conference football competitions.

Football Queensland today made the announcement about who were the 12 successful bids and South-West secretary Janelle Sothmann said their bid was unsuccessful.

"We missed out. We're devastated," she said. "I'm trying to think of reasons why.

"I'm devastated for all of the kids and all of the players because I don't know what there is for them."

More to come
http://www.thechronicle.com.au/story/2012/10/03/toowoomba-football-south-west-apl/

Brisbane- Brisbane Cty, Brisbane Strikers, Olympic FC, Redlands United, QAS, Moreton Bay
Gold Coast- Palm Beach Sharks
Sunshine Coast-Sunshine Coast
Tawoomba-Western pride
Townsville-Northern Fury
Cairns-Far North Queensland Bulls
Mackay-Central Queensland FC

Cities without Teams: Bundaberg and Rockhampton.

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Ethnic Teams: Olympic FC(Greek) and Brisbane City(Italian)

Brisbane- Brisbane Cty, Brisbane Strikers, Olympic FC, Redlands United, QAS, Moreton Bay
Gold Coast- Palm Beach Sharks
Sunshine Coast-Sunshine Coast
Tawoomba-Western pride
Townsville-Northern Fury
Cairns-Far North Queensland Bulls
Mackay-Central Queensland FC

Cities without Teams: Bundaberg and Rockhampton.

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Ethnic Teams: Olympic FC(Greek) and Brisbane City(Italian)

Wide Bay gets the boot
BREAKING: Any hope of Fraser Coast becoming the home of a new state league soccer club has been given the boot.

Football Wide Bay Zone's bid for a place in the inaugural Australian Premier League Queensland competition was overlooked by Football Queensland.

The zone's rival licence bid, Bundaberg Spirit, who currently contests the Queensland State League, also missed out on one of the 12 licences granted.

It now means any footballer 12 years and over, who aspire to play at the elite level, must travel to the Sunshine Coast or Rockhampton.

It is possible Wide Bay and Spirit's failure to strike an agreement destroyed any chance of the region being represented in the new competition.

Talks broke down between the two parties last month with the location of where the new club would be based out of believed to be the key sticking point.

It is understood Spirit board members were keen to keep home games in the Rum City, but Wide Bay zone officials wanted the new club to be based in a "centralised location" to give access to all players across the zone.

Next year's competition, which is set to kick-off in March, will replace the existing top-tier competition, Queensland State League, and the Junior Premier League.

Successful applicants: Brisbane City Football Club, Brisbane Strikers, Central Queensland Football Club, Far North Queensland Bulls, Moreton Bay United, Northern Fury, Olympic FC, Palm Beach Sharks, Queensland Academy of Sport, Redlands United Football Club, Sunshine Coast Fire and Western Pride Football Club
http://www.frasercoastchronicle.com.au/story/2012/10/03/wide-bay-gets-boot/

Isn't Central Queensland located in Rockhampton/Gladstone?

Were Palm Beach the GCF backed application or a separate one?

the beautiful game faebook page said it was in the football queensland press release.

You've made a few errors

Ipswich - Western Pride
Rockhampton - CQ FC

Bundaberg, Mackay and Toowoomba missed out.

Very strong state APL.

All clubs broad based except maybe Olympic. Has been a long time since any of my teams played them so they might have changed for the better. As is normally the case in this progressive state of ours.

In any case, the number multi cultural and broad base clubs is simply overwhelming with only one mono cultural club, Olympic which should prevent the spread of any potential cancers.

Plus we have safeguards. Thank goodness.

Edited by paulc: 3/10/2012 01:45:08 PM

Why is it called Australian Premier League = APL.

It's clearly not australia wide...

Why is it called Australian Premier League = APL.

It's clearly not australia wide...

Toowoomba: Population 125,000, 6th biggest population in Queensland, 16th in Australia.
Mackay: 83,000, 7th in QLD, 23rd in AUS.
Bundaberg: 66,000, 9th in QLD, 27th in AUS. Source of Mitch Langerak and Clint Bolton.

Choosing Palmy over the Football Gold Coast bid is a travesty. Instead of uniting the Coast under 1 banner they've handed this massive advantage to one club. How many juniors will decide to move to Palmy with a hope of playing in the APL. Not a good decision IMO, alot of football fans on the GC hate Palmy, myself included.

I obviously haven't been paying enough attention, is Queensland a test case or are they just the first to implement this? Are any of the other state federations in the process of setting this up?

Any idea what swung it ?

This is Brisbanes city logo;)

Any idea what swung it ?

In terms of participation, Bundaberg (and surrounding areas)is very strong so pity they have missed out. The only issue with the selection.

In terms of participation, Bundaberg (and surrounding areas)is very strong so pity they have missed out. The only issue with the selection.

Why is it called Australian Premier League = APL.

It's clearly not australia wide...

I obviously haven't been paying enough attention, is Queensland a test case or are they just the first to implement this? Are any of the other state federations in the process of setting this up?

And why is it called Premier? Aleague is the top tier. Reminds me of england where the third division is called league One lol

May as well stay as state leagues if they are going to be state conferences anyway.

Doesn't setting up an APL just mean they are further separating the a-league from the rest? They may as well stay as state leagues until an aleague division 2 is ready to go.

Or is APL just a roundabout way of sidelining the duplication in the state feds?

CQFC made it over Frenchville Sports Club? :lol:

And why is it called Premier? Aleague is the top tier. Reminds me of england where the third division is called league One lol

May as well stay as state leagues if they are going to be state conferences anyway.

Doesn't setting up an APL just mean they are further separating the a-league from the rest? They may as well stay as state leagues until an aleague division 2 is ready to go.

Or is APL just a roundabout way of sidelining the duplication in the state feds?

This is a competition that brings all of the state leagues IN LINE within the FFA control and modelling. -PB

The word from South Australia is they are going to twelve teams next season as the top two are being promoted from the state's second tier and the bottom two from our top state league weren't relegated. Sounds like most of the main Australian Premier league divisions are going to be 12 teams or eventually get to 12 teams.

do not know what will happen to the other 18 teams that formed the originally three tiers under FFSA. Some may be a lower division while others may go back to amatuer status.

I'm fairly sure the FFSA is going back to 2 leagues next year. Just the Premier League and State league. Not sure if there is going to be a big change though like what was done in Queensland, I could see the big clubs (the ones that pushed for the three tier system) being against giving up a lot of power.

I can't wait

Why with the APL has the only news come out of the Queensland division and from no other states. Will all other states be apart of the APL and when will we hear some news from this front?

I definitely can't wait (being serious).

The APL is something that Fuckly won't be able to fudge.

Gallop will do wonders for the FFA and how can he not? (when you're at the bottom, the only way is up etc).

Be happy for the future BB :)

-PB

And why is it called Premier? Aleague is the top tier. Reminds me of england where the third division is called league One lol

May as well stay as state leagues if they are going to be state conferences anyway.

Doesn't setting up an APL just mean they are further separating the a-league from the rest? They may as well stay as state leagues until an aleague division 2 is ready to go.

Or is APL just a roundabout way of sidelining the duplication in the state feds?

-All corresponding area teams fall under the APL teams which provides the much wanted direct link from local semi-pro clubs all the way up to A-League teams.

Promotion/relegation will come, hints are around 2022.

Another good thing about a strong APL is that it can be expanded relatively easily compared to the HAL and during the next TV deal (5+ years time) you can simply promote from within for HAL expansion.

-PB

Promotion/relegation will come, hints are around 2022.

Another good thing about a strong APL is that it can be expanded relatively easily compared to the HAL and during the next TV deal (5+ years time) you can simply promote from within for HAL expansion.

-PB

I hope they dont expand the APL and just use 12 teams plus pro/rel

The Fury are back :D

Brisbane.

3 October, 2012



Football Queensland has today announced the 12 clubs who have been granted licences to the Australian Premier League (APL), following an application process which saw 22 submissions from football clubs around Queensland.



The clubs were asked to meet detailed assessment criteria as well as submit a business plan, a football plan and five year financial forecast. The clubs who have been successful in their application are:



Brisbane City Football Club
Brisbane Strikers
Central Queensland Football Club
Far North Queensland Bulls
Moreton Bay United
Northern Fury
Olympic FC
Palm Beach Sharks
Queensland Academy of Sport
Redlands United Football Club
Sunshine Coast Fire
Western Pride Football Club
With the national competition, the Hyundai A-League, in its eighth year and continuing to grow, the introduction of the APL looks to further strengthen the junior talented player pathway.



By 2018, it is hoped that at least one of the abovementioned clubs will be successful enough to gain promotion to the A-League, with Football Federation Australia (FFA) looking to introduce a promotion/relegation structure from 2022.



Football Queensland Chief Executive Officer, Geoff Foster, believes today’s announcement is a step forward for football in Queensland and is excited by the opportunities it will afford junior players throughout the state.



“The APL will no doubt strengthen our top tier, the Hyundai A-League, but most importantly it provides a clear pathway for our talented juniors who will receive top quality coaching and develop their skills in a professional environment,” Foster said.



“With clubs having to meet certain criteria to be given a licence, it brings a new level of accountability to the player pathway, not only for the clubs but for Football Queensland and FFA in developing quality coaches and competitions for players to aspire to”.



The new Australian Premier League will kick off in March, 2013 with clubs to field teams from Under 12s to First Team in men’s and women’s competitions.

I dont really understand how it improves pathways to the HAL.

Any idea why they didnt stick with NQF?

According to the Courier Mail website, as well as the senior teams, all 12 clubs will also be expected for field 5 junior men's teams from under 12's to under 20's from next year, and women's under 13, 14, 15 and 18's from 2014

Has me fucked how the logistics of this is meant to work, how are you going to fly under 12's teams all over the state each week? Or will the juniors teams just compete in a couple of carnivals each year??

Also, the Moreton Bay club is being run by Albany Creek, which funnily enough is my old junior club!

According to the Courier Mail website, as well as the senior teams, all 12 clubs will also be expected for field 5 junior men's teams from under 12's to under 20's from next year, and women's under 13, 14, 15 and 18's from 2014

Has me fucked how the logistics of this is meant to work, how are you going to fly under 12's teams all over the state each week? Or will the juniors teams just compete in a couple of carnivals each year??

Also, the Moreton Bay club is being run by Albany Creek, which funnily enough is my old junior club!

Doubt they'd play eachother, perhaps since the teams are mostly existing teams, they'll continue to play in their local comps.

So as a transitional model APL seems like an improvement. But it doesn't get to the issue of building a top to bottom pathway for clubs that want to have a true chance to play for promotion to the top flight. So in that sense it is a separate structure ...i am guessing it is not a long term thing? It just seems they are avoiding for now the real issue of bringing the top and state tiers closer together. And giving regional aspirants a path to the top, on the field i might add not in the boardroom as is the strayan tradition.

Has me fucked how the logistics of this is meant to work, how are you going to fly under 12's teams all over the state each week? Or will the juniors teams just compete in a couple of carnivals each year?

Any idea why they didnt stick with NQF?

Serious question - do all clubs have the funds to travel?

Love the idea btw

Of course any productive gains that may be made with the introduction of an APL throughout the country will be quickly undone by some clubs (if selected}. Clubs that continue to rip of flares and chant Hellas or Cro-art-tzi-ar, in the name of their foreign mother country should be banned from the outset.

If you ever want to see football go in free fall, just observe these events - should they ever break through the safeguards.



Edited by paulc: 3/10/2012 03:33:31 PM

By 2018, it is hoped that at least one of the abovementioned clubs will be successful enough to gain promotion to the A-League, with Football Federation Australia (FFA) looking to introduce a promotion/relegation structure from 2022.

More then likely it was copyrighted by the FFA or other subsidiaries which prevented the use of the name. Kinda like a dead company can't be resurrected.


-PB

I like the way this is being structured. Forcing the successful applicants to have junior and women's teams makes them real clubs not stand alone franchises. I really hope that when the A-League clubs become sustainable they are moved in this direction too

+1

Bulllllllllshit

Anyone wanna tell the HAL owners their license may cover them playing in the state APL.

Lowy will be dead by then and Gallop hasn't picked his desk colour yet.

Who's making this call?

All the HAL club licenses expire in 2022, coincidence?

Has anyone seen mention of this anywhere else before ?

Look up the articles around all the recent license purchases.

Where's the "National Division" ...source ?


Edited by Benny Buckly: 3/10/2012 04:09:24 PM

It's just me making it up, throwing the idea out there

No idea, perhaps FGC thought they were almost guaranteed and didnt impress as much as Palmy, just not a good decision IMO.

Reckon bakries would still be up for a State League club ?

Like to read the fine print on what safe guards are in place to ensure we don't get a replicated NSL culture with damaging self interested mono ethnic clubs that have been itching to do it all over again.

I'm sure there will be protection clauses. It's divide and conquer by the FFA so far. A well executed strategy that has given football hope of prosperity. Just the same I'd like to see the details.

Like to read the fine print on what safe guards are in place to ensure we don't get a replicated NSL culture with damaging self interested mono ethnic clubs that have been itching to do it all over again.

I'm sure there will be protection clauses. It's divide and conquer by the FFA so far. A well executed strategy that has given football hope of prosperity. Just the same I'd like to see the details.

It will be interesting, there are pro's and con's as with everything.

One of the most important aspects is how the juniors are to be setup and coaching qualifications required for junior age groups.

what has been pointed out to me that is diconcerting to many people involved in Victorian Clubs is the lack of any information regarding marketing and promotion of the the APL locally and Nationally.

While the FFV's slant on the NCR with regards to proposals limiting the movement of juniors to and between APL Clubs is causing concern. Dave's 442 Blog brought out a point that is having ramifications here in regards to the jerrymandering of the selection of APL Clubs. For example the limit of two clubs per zone means that in our western zone, that could possibly have as a minimum six clubs capable of filling an APL place could affect elite player development due to restricted places. As compared to the Eastern Zone that may have one club capable if we are lucky and is considered the weakest zone (Elite Talent wise) because the clubs are mostly particapatory.

And with the PPS system the concern is the standard will get worse before it gets better, so will any body a) turn up to watch and b) will business still be prepared to put money in the new comp?

[size=6]Good luck to Queensland, but it looks like it is not much different than what went before with the QSL.[/size]
While NSW should be announcing their comp in a couple of weeks Victoria is looking at starting in 2014.

Edited by Arthur: 3/10/2012 04:33:14 PM

The Fury are back :D