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Condemned666 wrote:The problem with expanding to North queensland is the climate there at the time of the year, its cyclone season up there, and when there isnt a cyclone its hot and humid Boo-hoo. I like the Fury, and they seem to be on the right track. My only problem with them is that I don't see them bringing a great deal to the league short-medium term, other than just being an ordinary regional team which doesn't really excite people. Good for longer term when the game should be in a much stronger position. I think a Brisbane/Gold Coast/Ipswich triangle has better potential. Genuine local derbies where fans can actually travel away in numbers.
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The problem with expanding to North queensland is the climate there at the time of the year, its cyclone season up there, and when there isnt a cyclone its hot and humid
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williamn wrote:so how does this work, mariners need 3k to profit at north sydney oval, yet northern spirit were forced out of the ground due to excessive costs? Couldn't charge A-League prices for the NSL.
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Perhaps Sydney FC could play a pre-season game against the Mariners @ NSO and see what happens then.
WOLLONGONG WOLVES FOR A-LEAGUE EXPANSION!

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and just with the general enthusiasm and nostalgia brought with having football back at north sydney oval it would be good if sydney had an a-league club in north sydney, but i guess it will never be viable since it would either kill of mariners or would lack support as most of the people either support sydney fc or ccm. it was good however to see that group of spirit fans together in the stands.
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so how does this work, mariners need 3k to profit at north sydney oval, yet northern spirit were forced out of the ground due to excessive costs?
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6755 at North Sydney tonight, Mariners only needed 3k to turn a profit.
Edited by iridium1010: 20/12/2013 12:32:44 AM
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Quote:Australian Football heavy hitter Bonita Mersiades joins Northern Fury's A-League push
THE Northern Fury's bold A-League ambitions have received a significant national boost after the appointment of high-profile football figure Bonita Mersiades.
Mersiades, a one-time head of corporate and public affairs for Football Federation Australia, was once regarded as one of the most powerful women in Australian sport.
With her Australia-wide contacts, Fury management believe they have taken a big step forward.
Mersiades will press Northern's case for future admission into the top-flight competition with local, state and federal governments as well as with the A-League's 10 current clubs.
"It's a stakeholder engagement role," she said of her position with the club.
"It's about selling that message, promoting that message, to people who are not here in North Queensland … that don't understand the spirit around the Northern Fury.
"It's important for key stakeholders in the game, whether they be FFA, A-League clubs, people in government or media in other parts of Australia, to understand the Fury means business.
"The Fury are here to stay."
Mersiades has a long history with the sport in Australia, including being the Socceroos' manager during the 1990s.
She was at FFA when the original Fury, known as North Queensland, were admitted to the A-League in 2009 and believes their 2011 axing was an "injustice".
It is a widely-shared consensus she believes can help the club's top-flight rebirth.
"There is this sense that they were hard done by and there is some unfinished business in respect of the Northern Fury," said Mersiades, controversially forced out of her FFA role in 2010.
"It's also important (for national interests) to understand the difference between North Queensland Fury back in 2008 and Northern Fury in 2013.
"This time it is building from the ground up, rather than just being imposed for other reasons."
After former A-League coach with the NQ Fury and Perth Glory Ian Ferguson was installed as coaching director, Mersiades' appointment is another sign that Northern are prepared to back up their ambitious talk by walking the walk.
The club has representative teams from under-12 through to National Premier League level.
By 2015-16 the Fury plan to have a team admitted to the National Youth League and the W-League a year later before making a push for their A-League return.
Mersiades said Northern was doing most things right for when FFA considered expansion.
"Among Australian Football there have been great people that have played the game from this area of the country and I think it's important for young kids, in particular, to have something to aspire to and Fury gives that," she said.
The Fury's proposed membership/ownership program will be released in the new year. http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/sport/australian-football-heavy-hitter-bonita-mersiades-joins-northern-furys-aleague-push/story-fnjfzr2z-1226782054932
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Brisbane Ro wrote:ExpandTheA-League wrote:Brisbane Ro wrote: Some very astute observations there.
Will you be using cash or card?
I thought it would be a good idea to bring it up, but i know money wont get thrown to football. Where the government throws all to the AFL(and cricket but mostly AFL) 2 Billion to AFL infrastructure and around 3-400 Million to Rectangular grounds and infrastructure (Including Training) No harm done :d I'd say most on here are aware of what the MLS has. But those with half a brain also know its simply not a realistic expectation anytime soon here. Yeah sadly unless somebody like Manchester City does the same here as they have/are with NYCFC.
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ExpandTheA-League wrote:Brisbane Ro wrote: Some very astute observations there.
Will you be using cash or card?
I thought it would be a good idea to bring it up, but i know money wont get thrown to football. Where the government throws all to the AFL(and cricket but mostly AFL) 2 Billion to AFL infrastructure and around 3-400 Million to Rectangular grounds and infrastructure (Including Training) No harm done :d I'd say most on here are aware of what the MLS has. But those with half a brain also know its simply not a realistic expectation anytime soon here.
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Brisbane Ro wrote: Some very astute observations there.
Will you be using cash or card?
I thought it would be a good idea to bring it up, but i know money wont get thrown to football. Where the government throws all to the AFL(and cricket but mostly AFL) 2 Billion to AFL infrastructure and around 3-400 Million to Rectangular grounds and infrastructure (Including Training) Edited by ExpandTheA-League: 9/12/2013 10:03:25 PM
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thupercoach wrote:Iridium1010 wrote:Personally I prefer Wollongong, it's the name of the regional centre and it's a city. It's not as if only people from Fremantle go for Fremantle Dockers.
I don't buy this whole come up with a name that has a greater population under it and more people will come, But I'm happy to go with what the supporters go for/identify with. Fair point. They could do worse than ask the people they'd be wanting to attract. I can't believe people not from the target area are even trying to entertain the idea of choosing for them after everything WSW did successfully compared to Gold Coast and Heart over the last 18 months of community set-up.
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Iridium1010 wrote:Personally I prefer Wollongong, it's the name of the regional centre and it's a city. It's not as if only people from Fremantle go for Fremantle Dockers.
I don't buy this whole come up with a name that has a greater population under it and more people will come, But I'm happy to go with what the supporters go for/identify with. Fair point. They could do worse than ask the people they'd be wanting to attract.
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Personally I prefer Wollongong, it's the name of the regional centre and it's a city. It's not as if only people from Fremantle go for Fremantle Dockers.
I don't buy this whole come up with a name that has a greater population under it and more people will come, But I'm happy to go with what the supporters go for/identify with.
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The Frenchman wrote:I would actually go with Illawarra Wolves as a South Coast/Wollongong team name. I dont think it has been said here, but i just feel its a larger catchment area than Wollongong, but not as sparse as South Coast. How about simply Southern Wolves then? Eventually they'll just be known as the Wolves and appeal to everyone between Bulli and Nowra, grabbing a few from Campbelltown and far south of Sydney as well.
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I would actually go with Illawarra Wolves as a South Coast/Wollongong team name. I dont think it has been said here, but i just feel its a larger catchment area than Wollongong, but not as sparse as South Coast.
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imonfourfourtwo wrote:Iridium1010 wrote:imonfourfourtwo wrote:[
I just use MS Paint, simple, but gets the idea across. So it's all drawn manually or you use templates? how did you do the checks? Where do you get the templates from? I made that template myself. Checks as in a chequered design (eg croatia). So you drew the checks yourself as well? Nice work, I wish I could do that, I really wanna finish the Perth Glory kit templates on wikipedia.
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Iridium1010 wrote:imonfourfourtwo wrote:[
I just use MS Paint, simple, but gets the idea across. So it's all drawn manually or you use templates? how did you do the checks? Where do you get the templates from? I made that template myself. Checks as in a chequered design (eg croatia).
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imonfourfourtwo wrote:[
I just use MS Paint, simple, but gets the idea across. So it's all drawn manually or you use templates? how did you do the checks? Where do you get the templates from?
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williamn wrote:that is really good for the canberra kit above.
any reasons why swans, is it one of their ACT symbols, though i would like the a-league to avoid using team names from the nrl/afl, new zealand knights wasnt a good idea. Ah I honestly have no idea about Canberra but I wanted to avoid politics so I just stole the swan off the ACT flag. As far as the kit goes I really think checks are underused in kit designs, especially as you can utilise them in all sorts of ways. I just use MS Paint, simple, but gets the idea across.
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epic, added to OP. How do you make these btw?
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that is really good for the canberra kit above.
any reasons why swans, is it one of their ACT symbols, though i would like the a-league to avoid using team names from the nrl/afl, new zealand knights wasnt a good idea.
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A16Man wrote:sobkowski wrote:Some time ago people were arguing whether a south coast team should be called "South Coast", or "Wollongong".
It was said that the South Coast of NSW is actually much more southern than Wollongong and that no one refers to it as South Coast in the gong region.
I went down to the gong, today and there was a sign saying "Welcome to the South Coast" Yeah there is signage and we are in the south coast area (the coast south of Sydney) but technically Wollongong and the surrounding suburbs are part of the Illawarra region and below that is the South Coast. I live near one of those signs. I'm not sure what the billboard next to it says now but for a long time it said Welcome to Wollongong gateway to the South Coast. Other people may have different definitions but I don't think you are in the building, stadium, garden, castle, whatever until you have passed through the gate. Edited by chillbilly: 8/12/2013 11:11:22 PM
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sobkowski wrote:Some time ago people were arguing whether a south coast team should be called "South Coast", or "Wollongong".
It was said that the South Coast of NSW is actually much more southern than Wollongong and that no one refers to it as South Coast in the gong region.
I went down to the gong, today and there was a sign saying "Welcome to the South Coast" Yeah there is signage and we are in the south coast area (the coast south of Sydney) but technically Wollongong and the surrounding suburbs are part of the Illawarra region and below that is the South Coast.
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ExpandTheA-League wrote:Anybody notice what the MLS is doing? They are trying to build football specific stadiums for every team. All are around 110m long fence to fence and 85m wide. Thats what a Roar need 25-30 Suncorp is to big right now Some very astute observations there. Will you be using cash or card?
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Anybody notice what the MLS is doing? They are trying to build football specific stadiums for every team. All are around 110m long fence to fence and 85m wide. Thats what a Roar need 25-30 Suncorp is to big right now, geelong would need the same thing 18-24k
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Quote:
1. Sydney; 4.7m (18 NCs), PSP 265,000.
2. Melbourne; 4.3m (17 NCs), PSP 255,000.
3. Brisbane; 2.2m (7 NCs), PSP 315,000.
4 Perth; 1.9 m (8 NCs), PSP 240,000.
5. Adelaide; 1.3m (7 NCs), PSP 190,000.
6. Gold Coast-Tweed; 600,000 (2 NCs), PSP 300,000.
7. Newcastle-Maitland; 430,000 (2 NCs), PSP 215,000.
8. Canberra-Queanbeyan; 420,000 (4 NCs), PSP 105,000.
9. Central Coast; est. 400,000 (one NC), PSP 400,000.
10. Wollongong; 290,000 (2 NCs), PSP 145,000.
11. Hobart; 220,000 (one NC), PSP 220,000 (whole state would provide higher figures).
12. Geelong; 190,000 (one NC), PSP 190,000.
13. Townsville; 180,000 (2 NCs), PSP 95,000 (excluding Cairns Taipans).
We need clubs in every single area mentioned, and second clubs in the bolded areas (already ticked Tardistan and NeuSouff) asap in my opinion. Edited by 4wanderer4: 4/12/2013 05:18:04 PM
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williamn wrote:Burztur wrote:Very interesting breakdown.
Reinforces the argument that Qld is the place to expand. i think you mean brisbane* is the place to expand. No, we need teams back up north and maybe even on the Gold Coast again (but done right this time). Failing that a second Brisbane team or one in Ipswich.
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and i believe including baseball and hockey teams really skew the stats, especially for canberra
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