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+x+x+x+x+x+xSo FFA bosses are scared of many things. AFL, BBL, NRL, AFLW, TV deals, A League expansion, second division, removing salary cap, transfer fees between Australian clubs, instituting a system that rewards performance over a stale system that instead rewards inertia. But it seems to me, that being scared of their own sport and its potential might be highest on the list. I doubt anything other codes could do to keep football down would be as effective as the "strategy" for the sport currently being administered by FFA management and board. As others have said over numerous threads, stop comparing yourselves to other sports, reach out in a meaningful way to people who actually love/like football and engage them as participating fans by allowing their teams/areas to be represented at the highest level they can achieve on merit. Link the levels of the pyramids from top to bottom (via PR) and bring those back those football loving but isolated fans back into the fold. With A league on top, A2 beneath it, I would like to see a 3rd div of NPL National Champions (and runners up to give plenty of teams for strict home and away season) play off in a 3rd national tier league. Winner of said league progresses into A2, the rest of the comp is replaced by the winners and runners up of that seasons National NPL's. Stop trying to make all teams the same but let them find their own level. Stop holding back big clubs from expanding to where they can go if the shackles are removed. I know people who fear that their club will be left behind if the "big" clubs go ahead without the restrictions in place, but doesn't a rising tide raise all boats? If more money and better known players are able to join our league, then the Burnley and Watford equivalents in our league can also afford better players due to better TV money they will share in also. It will be a great achievement to make it to the top tier and to try and stay their for smaller clubs, just as it is all over the world. Plus nothing stopping them from going all in on development of juniors and making money being a development club. So come on FFA, change the league format and get us moving towards what we need as a sport. But this will fall on deaf ears amid cries of sustainability. So my question is, does FFA actually suffer from a fear of success? Great post that Thanks, I don't speak/ write often, but when i do... haha Great initial post. The reality is that if AFC Bournemouth were an Aussie club, they wouldn't meet the metrics of their division and couldn't be in the top division. We need reality to impact the FFA sooner rather than later! Exactly. A mate of mine who supports CCM is a passionate advocate of the status quo, feating that his club would disappear without guaranteed top flight football. I doubt he would be alone in those fears, so I believe it's more than just the FFA we need to convince of the merits of change. Another friend is a Newcastle United supporter and the happiest I have seen him was when Newcastle romped it in while playing in the Championship a few years back. They won the trophy, got promoted and actually had something to get excited about. Sure he was filthy about getting relegated the season before, but due to their Championship form the following season, he could actually get as excited about their form as he was disappointed by their lack of it, the previous season. So dropping down a level is not the end of the line. Not if you are a determined club. We don't even give our clubs the chance at redemption. I also support CCM but know that the status quo will not remain. Paradoxically, while people lambast our owner for not spending enough on the squad he is investing in developing alternate revenue streams. This will mean a sustainable club in the very near future and eventually a future proof club that will have the wherewithal to bounce back quickly if the worst happens and we are relegated. I love that CCM are future proofing themselves. Better to get started on it now when there is no threat of relegation. Once PR does eventuate, if they should happen to fall, they would be well placed to bounce back up and hopefully pick up a nice trophy on the way back up (please FFA make the A2 trophy better than the toilet seat!).
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+xHere's some photos of Lakeside at the nitro athletics.Tbh on the wing opposing the TV cameras, it would be pretty awesome if they could get a second tier very similar to NIB in Perth. Would be the missing piece to complete the ground with quality elevated wing views and a great overview of the lake at skyline of the cbd.   The view from behind the goals is utterly shocking.
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+x+xHere's some photos of Lakeside at the nitro athletics.Tbh on the wing opposing the TV cameras, it would be pretty awesome if they could get a second tier very similar to NIB in Perth. Would be the missing piece to complete the ground with quality elevated wing views and a great overview of the lake at skyline of the cbd. The view from behind the goals is utterly shocking. agree, but not as shocking as spotless down the big screen end.
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South Melbourne legend Fernando De Moraes backs NPL club’s bid to be added to A-League THE player dubbed the greatest in South Melbourne’s Victorian Premier League history has backed the club’s bid to be awarded an A-League licence. Brazilian attacking midfielder Fernando De Moraes, who made 174 appearances over a nine-year career at South Melbourne, said the club had everything in place to become a successful A-League club. De Moraes said South Melbourne’s 12,000-capacity home Lakeside Stadium and existing fan base should work in the club’s favour. “I think so, they should,” he said. “People say it is because of their history, but I think when you put the club out there, they have a lot of supporters. “They won’t have to do a lot of promoting to bring supporters into the club like A-League clubs do because they started off out of nothing. “Which Victory did, and they did a great job, and City is trying to build up that football culture. “I think South Melbourne already has all of that.” The club labelled De Moraes “without doubt the best player we’ve had” after he announced his retirement three years ago. Two extra teams are expected to be added to the national competition next year, with South Melbourne issuing one of the more vocal bids. “The club has the name, has the culture, has the supporters, has the stadium, the facilities,” De Moraes said. “It’s all about the federation making a decision. “It’s a big promotion as well. It’s one of the biggest clubs in Australia. It has a big history.” Victoria United (Geelong), Tasmania and Wollongong are among the other regions to express interest. De Moraes, a former captain of Australia’s futsal team the Futsalroos, currently coaches for Futsal Oz in Brunswick. He was a member of the South Melbourne team which took out the VPL title in 2006 and was crowned the VPL player of the season in 2010. “Back in my days, sometimes we would have 800 supporters on a cold Sunday night,” he said. “They were the same supporters that would come during the year week-in, week-out, no matter what happened. “They were not young people, they were old people that loved the club and they would be there no matter what.” South Melbourne has been linked with a move to make Brazilian legend Roberto Carlos its inaugural A-League coach, while it was rumoured the club expressed interest in signing former Chelsea striker Didier Drogba as its marquee player. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/inner-south/sport/south-melbourne-legend-fernando-de-moraes-backs-npl-clubs-bid-to-be-added-to-aleague/news-story/0515f1b3d84d1e3a66eba2d32df68e9e
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How many people do South Melbourne get to a game on average?
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+xHow many people do South Melbourne get to a game on average? How many do most state league clubs average a game. State leagues get no coverage and are dead ends. Asking for their crowd numbers is pointless as it's not a true indicator of how they will go in the national league. South averaged 7K last NSL season. I'd suspect that they'd do a lot better.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xSo FFA bosses are scared of many things. AFL, BBL, NRL, AFLW, TV deals, A League expansion, second division, removing salary cap, transfer fees between Australian clubs, instituting a system that rewards performance over a stale system that instead rewards inertia. But it seems to me, that being scared of their own sport and its potential might be highest on the list. I doubt anything other codes could do to keep football down would be as effective as the "strategy" for the sport currently being administered by FFA management and board. As others have said over numerous threads, stop comparing yourselves to other sports, reach out in a meaningful way to people who actually love/like football and engage them as participating fans by allowing their teams/areas to be represented at the highest level they can achieve on merit. Link the levels of the pyramids from top to bottom (via PR) and bring those back those football loving but isolated fans back into the fold. With A league on top, A2 beneath it, I would like to see a 3rd div of NPL National Champions (and runners up to give plenty of teams for strict home and away season) play off in a 3rd national tier league. Winner of said league progresses into A2, the rest of the comp is replaced by the winners and runners up of that seasons National NPL's. Stop trying to make all teams the same but let them find their own level. Stop holding back big clubs from expanding to where they can go if the shackles are removed. I know people who fear that their club will be left behind if the "big" clubs go ahead without the restrictions in place, but doesn't a rising tide raise all boats? If more money and better known players are able to join our league, then the Burnley and Watford equivalents in our league can also afford better players due to better TV money they will share in also. It will be a great achievement to make it to the top tier and to try and stay their for smaller clubs, just as it is all over the world. Plus nothing stopping them from going all in on development of juniors and making money being a development club. So come on FFA, change the league format and get us moving towards what we need as a sport. But this will fall on deaf ears amid cries of sustainability. So my question is, does FFA actually suffer from a fear of success? Great post that Thanks, I don't speak/ write often, but when i do... haha Great initial post. The reality is that if AFC Bournemouth were an Aussie club, they wouldn't meet the metrics of their division and couldn't be in the top division. We need reality to impact the FFA sooner rather than later! Exactly. A mate of mine who supports CCM is a passionate advocate of the status quo, feating that his club would disappear without guaranteed top flight football. I doubt he would be alone in those fears, so I believe it's more than just the FFA we need to convince of the merits of change. Another friend is a Newcastle United supporter and the happiest I have seen him was when Newcastle romped it in while playing in the Championship a few years back. They won the trophy, got promoted and actually had something to get excited about. Sure he was filthy about getting relegated the season before, but due to their Championship form the following season, he could actually get as excited about their form as he was disappointed by their lack of it, the previous season. So dropping down a level is not the end of the line. Not if you are a determined club. We don't even give our clubs the chance at redemption. I also support CCM but know that the status quo will not remain. Paradoxically, while people lambast our owner for not spending enough on the squad he is investing in developing alternate revenue streams. This will mean a sustainable club in the very near future and eventually a future proof club that will have the wherewithal to bounce back quickly if the worst happens and we are relegated. I love that CCM are future proofing themselves. Better to get started on it now when there is no threat of relegation. Once PR does eventuate, if they should happen to fall, they would be well placed to bounce back up and hopefully pick up a nice trophy on the way back up (please FFA make the A2 trophy better than the toilet seat!). Heard it will be the lid on top.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xSo FFA bosses are scared of many things. AFL, BBL, NRL, AFLW, TV deals, A League expansion, second division, removing salary cap, transfer fees between Australian clubs, instituting a system that rewards performance over a stale system that instead rewards inertia. But it seems to me, that being scared of their own sport and its potential might be highest on the list. I doubt anything other codes could do to keep football down would be as effective as the "strategy" for the sport currently being administered by FFA management and board. As others have said over numerous threads, stop comparing yourselves to other sports, reach out in a meaningful way to people who actually love/like football and engage them as participating fans by allowing their teams/areas to be represented at the highest level they can achieve on merit. Link the levels of the pyramids from top to bottom (via PR) and bring those back those football loving but isolated fans back into the fold. With A league on top, A2 beneath it, I would like to see a 3rd div of NPL National Champions (and runners up to give plenty of teams for strict home and away season) play off in a 3rd national tier league. Winner of said league progresses into A2, the rest of the comp is replaced by the winners and runners up of that seasons National NPL's. Stop trying to make all teams the same but let them find their own level. Stop holding back big clubs from expanding to where they can go if the shackles are removed. I know people who fear that their club will be left behind if the "big" clubs go ahead without the restrictions in place, but doesn't a rising tide raise all boats? If more money and better known players are able to join our league, then the Burnley and Watford equivalents in our league can also afford better players due to better TV money they will share in also. It will be a great achievement to make it to the top tier and to try and stay their for smaller clubs, just as it is all over the world. Plus nothing stopping them from going all in on development of juniors and making money being a development club. So come on FFA, change the league format and get us moving towards what we need as a sport. But this will fall on deaf ears amid cries of sustainability. So my question is, does FFA actually suffer from a fear of success? Great post that Thanks, I don't speak/ write often, but when i do... haha Great initial post. The reality is that if AFC Bournemouth were an Aussie club, they wouldn't meet the metrics of their division and couldn't be in the top division. We need reality to impact the FFA sooner rather than later! Exactly. A mate of mine who supports CCM is a passionate advocate of the status quo, feating that his club would disappear without guaranteed top flight football. I doubt he would be alone in those fears, so I believe it's more than just the FFA we need to convince of the merits of change. Another friend is a Newcastle United supporter and the happiest I have seen him was when Newcastle romped it in while playing in the Championship a few years back. They won the trophy, got promoted and actually had something to get excited about. Sure he was filthy about getting relegated the season before, but due to their Championship form the following season, he could actually get as excited about their form as he was disappointed by their lack of it, the previous season. So dropping down a level is not the end of the line. Not if you are a determined club. We don't even give our clubs the chance at redemption. I also support CCM but know that the status quo will not remain. Paradoxically, while people lambast our owner for not spending enough on the squad he is investing in developing alternate revenue streams. This will mean a sustainable club in the very near future and eventually a future proof club that will have the wherewithal to bounce back quickly if the worst happens and we are relegated. I love that CCM are future proofing themselves. Better to get started on it now when there is no threat of relegation. Once PR does eventuate, if they should happen to fall, they would be well placed to bounce back up and hopefully pick up a nice trophy on the way back up (please FFA make the A2 trophy better than the toilet seat!). Heard it will be the lid on top. Heard it will be the bowl underneath, ready to catch adelaide united when we drop
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xSo FFA bosses are scared of many things. AFL, BBL, NRL, AFLW, TV deals, A League expansion, second division, removing salary cap, transfer fees between Australian clubs, instituting a system that rewards performance over a stale system that instead rewards inertia. But it seems to me, that being scared of their own sport and its potential might be highest on the list. I doubt anything other codes could do to keep football down would be as effective as the "strategy" for the sport currently being administered by FFA management and board. As others have said over numerous threads, stop comparing yourselves to other sports, reach out in a meaningful way to people who actually love/like football and engage them as participating fans by allowing their teams/areas to be represented at the highest level they can achieve on merit. Link the levels of the pyramids from top to bottom (via PR) and bring those back those football loving but isolated fans back into the fold. With A league on top, A2 beneath it, I would like to see a 3rd div of NPL National Champions (and runners up to give plenty of teams for strict home and away season) play off in a 3rd national tier league. Winner of said league progresses into A2, the rest of the comp is replaced by the winners and runners up of that seasons National NPL's. Stop trying to make all teams the same but let them find their own level. Stop holding back big clubs from expanding to where they can go if the shackles are removed. I know people who fear that their club will be left behind if the "big" clubs go ahead without the restrictions in place, but doesn't a rising tide raise all boats? If more money and better known players are able to join our league, then the Burnley and Watford equivalents in our league can also afford better players due to better TV money they will share in also. It will be a great achievement to make it to the top tier and to try and stay their for smaller clubs, just as it is all over the world. Plus nothing stopping them from going all in on development of juniors and making money being a development club. So come on FFA, change the league format and get us moving towards what we need as a sport. But this will fall on deaf ears amid cries of sustainability. So my question is, does FFA actually suffer from a fear of success? Great post that Thanks, I don't speak/ write often, but when i do... haha Great initial post. The reality is that if AFC Bournemouth were an Aussie club, they wouldn't meet the metrics of their division and couldn't be in the top division. We need reality to impact the FFA sooner rather than later! Exactly. A mate of mine who supports CCM is a passionate advocate of the status quo, feating that his club would disappear without guaranteed top flight football. I doubt he would be alone in those fears, so I believe it's more than just the FFA we need to convince of the merits of change. Another friend is a Newcastle United supporter and the happiest I have seen him was when Newcastle romped it in while playing in the Championship a few years back. They won the trophy, got promoted and actually had something to get excited about. Sure he was filthy about getting relegated the season before, but due to their Championship form the following season, he could actually get as excited about their form as he was disappointed by their lack of it, the previous season. So dropping down a level is not the end of the line. Not if you are a determined club. We don't even give our clubs the chance at redemption. I also support CCM but know that the status quo will not remain. Paradoxically, while people lambast our owner for not spending enough on the squad he is investing in developing alternate revenue streams. This will mean a sustainable club in the very near future and eventually a future proof club that will have the wherewithal to bounce back quickly if the worst happens and we are relegated. I love that CCM are future proofing themselves. Better to get started on it now when there is no threat of relegation. Once PR does eventuate, if they should happen to fall, they would be well placed to bounce back up and hopefully pick up a nice trophy on the way back up (please FFA make the A2 trophy better than the toilet seat!). Heard it will be the lid on top. Heard it will be the bowl underneath, ready to catch adelaide united when we drop Haha true. But Adelaide are doing a Leicester.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xSo FFA bosses are scared of many things. AFL, BBL, NRL, AFLW, TV deals, A League expansion, second division, removing salary cap, transfer fees between Australian clubs, instituting a system that rewards performance over a stale system that instead rewards inertia. But it seems to me, that being scared of their own sport and its potential might be highest on the list. I doubt anything other codes could do to keep football down would be as effective as the "strategy" for the sport currently being administered by FFA management and board. As others have said over numerous threads, stop comparing yourselves to other sports, reach out in a meaningful way to people who actually love/like football and engage them as participating fans by allowing their teams/areas to be represented at the highest level they can achieve on merit. Link the levels of the pyramids from top to bottom (via PR) and bring those back those football loving but isolated fans back into the fold. With A league on top, A2 beneath it, I would like to see a 3rd div of NPL National Champions (and runners up to give plenty of teams for strict home and away season) play off in a 3rd national tier league. Winner of said league progresses into A2, the rest of the comp is replaced by the winners and runners up of that seasons National NPL's. Stop trying to make all teams the same but let them find their own level. Stop holding back big clubs from expanding to where they can go if the shackles are removed. I know people who fear that their club will be left behind if the "big" clubs go ahead without the restrictions in place, but doesn't a rising tide raise all boats? If more money and better known players are able to join our league, then the Burnley and Watford equivalents in our league can also afford better players due to better TV money they will share in also. It will be a great achievement to make it to the top tier and to try and stay their for smaller clubs, just as it is all over the world. Plus nothing stopping them from going all in on development of juniors and making money being a development club. So come on FFA, change the league format and get us moving towards what we need as a sport. But this will fall on deaf ears amid cries of sustainability. So my question is, does FFA actually suffer from a fear of success? Great post that Thanks, I don't speak/ write often, but when i do... haha Great initial post. The reality is that if AFC Bournemouth were an Aussie club, they wouldn't meet the metrics of their division and couldn't be in the top division. We need reality to impact the FFA sooner rather than later! Exactly. A mate of mine who supports CCM is a passionate advocate of the status quo, feating that his club would disappear without guaranteed top flight football. I doubt he would be alone in those fears, so I believe it's more than just the FFA we need to convince of the merits of change. Another friend is a Newcastle United supporter and the happiest I have seen him was when Newcastle romped it in while playing in the Championship a few years back. They won the trophy, got promoted and actually had something to get excited about. Sure he was filthy about getting relegated the season before, but due to their Championship form the following season, he could actually get as excited about their form as he was disappointed by their lack of it, the previous season. So dropping down a level is not the end of the line. Not if you are a determined club. We don't even give our clubs the chance at redemption. I also support CCM but know that the status quo will not remain. Paradoxically, while people lambast our owner for not spending enough on the squad he is investing in developing alternate revenue streams. This will mean a sustainable club in the very near future and eventually a future proof club that will have the wherewithal to bounce back quickly if the worst happens and we are relegated. I love that CCM are future proofing themselves. Better to get started on it now when there is no threat of relegation. Once PR does eventuate, if they should happen to fall, they would be well placed to bounce back up and hopefully pick up a nice trophy on the way back up (please FFA make the A2 trophy better than the toilet seat!). Heard it will be the lid on top. Heard it will be the bowl underneath, ready to catch adelaide united when we drop Surely it's the S-Bend? Certainly fucked if you went down any further Which brings me to my question (bare with me, TheSelectFew, don't tell me to fuck off, serious question), how does the "full pyramid" work where, at some point, you presumably have levels that are playing in winter? Do those clubs sit out 12 months after earning promotion? What about in the other direction? I'm actually warming to the idea of Pro/Rel. Massively risky but probably a better shot than the current "single-white-female" strategy which seems like a dead end. That seems the a big practical issue though - the summer winter thing
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xSo FFA bosses are scared of many things. AFL, BBL, NRL, AFLW, TV deals, A League expansion, second division, removing salary cap, transfer fees between Australian clubs, instituting a system that rewards performance over a stale system that instead rewards inertia. But it seems to me, that being scared of their own sport and its potential might be highest on the list. I doubt anything other codes could do to keep football down would be as effective as the "strategy" for the sport currently being administered by FFA management and board. As others have said over numerous threads, stop comparing yourselves to other sports, reach out in a meaningful way to people who actually love/like football and engage them as participating fans by allowing their teams/areas to be represented at the highest level they can achieve on merit. Link the levels of the pyramids from top to bottom (via PR) and bring those back those football loving but isolated fans back into the fold. With A league on top, A2 beneath it, I would like to see a 3rd div of NPL National Champions (and runners up to give plenty of teams for strict home and away season) play off in a 3rd national tier league. Winner of said league progresses into A2, the rest of the comp is replaced by the winners and runners up of that seasons National NPL's. Stop trying to make all teams the same but let them find their own level. Stop holding back big clubs from expanding to where they can go if the shackles are removed. I know people who fear that their club will be left behind if the "big" clubs go ahead without the restrictions in place, but doesn't a rising tide raise all boats? If more money and better known players are able to join our league, then the Burnley and Watford equivalents in our league can also afford better players due to better TV money they will share in also. It will be a great achievement to make it to the top tier and to try and stay their for smaller clubs, just as it is all over the world. Plus nothing stopping them from going all in on development of juniors and making money being a development club. So come on FFA, change the league format and get us moving towards what we need as a sport. But this will fall on deaf ears amid cries of sustainability. So my question is, does FFA actually suffer from a fear of success? Great post that Thanks, I don't speak/ write often, but when i do... haha Great initial post. The reality is that if AFC Bournemouth were an Aussie club, they wouldn't meet the metrics of their division and couldn't be in the top division. We need reality to impact the FFA sooner rather than later! Exactly. A mate of mine who supports CCM is a passionate advocate of the status quo, feating that his club would disappear without guaranteed top flight football. I doubt he would be alone in those fears, so I believe it's more than just the FFA we need to convince of the merits of change. Another friend is a Newcastle United supporter and the happiest I have seen him was when Newcastle romped it in while playing in the Championship a few years back. They won the trophy, got promoted and actually had something to get excited about. Sure he was filthy about getting relegated the season before, but due to their Championship form the following season, he could actually get as excited about their form as he was disappointed by their lack of it, the previous season. So dropping down a level is not the end of the line. Not if you are a determined club. We don't even give our clubs the chance at redemption. I also support CCM but know that the status quo will not remain. Paradoxically, while people lambast our owner for not spending enough on the squad he is investing in developing alternate revenue streams. This will mean a sustainable club in the very near future and eventually a future proof club that will have the wherewithal to bounce back quickly if the worst happens and we are relegated. I love that CCM are future proofing themselves. Better to get started on it now when there is no threat of relegation. Once PR does eventuate, if they should happen to fall, they would be well placed to bounce back up and hopefully pick up a nice trophy on the way back up (please FFA make the A2 trophy better than the toilet seat!). Heard it will be the lid on top. Heard it will be the bowl underneath, ready to catch adelaide united when we drop Surely it's the S-Bend? Certainly fucked if you went down any further Which brings me to my question (bare with me, TheSelectFew, don't tell me to fuck off, serious question), how does the "full pyramid" work where, at some point, you presumably have levels that are playing in winter? Do those clubs sit out 12 months after earning promotion? What about in the other direction? I'm actually warming to the idea of Pro/Rel. Massively risky but probably a better shot than the current "single-white-female" strategy which seems like a dead end. That seems the a big practical issue though - the summer winter thing Fuck off.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xSo FFA bosses are scared of many things. AFL, BBL, NRL, AFLW, TV deals, A League expansion, second division, removing salary cap, transfer fees between Australian clubs, instituting a system that rewards performance over a stale system that instead rewards inertia. But it seems to me, that being scared of their own sport and its potential might be highest on the list. I doubt anything other codes could do to keep football down would be as effective as the "strategy" for the sport currently being administered by FFA management and board. As others have said over numerous threads, stop comparing yourselves to other sports, reach out in a meaningful way to people who actually love/like football and engage them as participating fans by allowing their teams/areas to be represented at the highest level they can achieve on merit. Link the levels of the pyramids from top to bottom (via PR) and bring those back those football loving but isolated fans back into the fold. With A league on top, A2 beneath it, I would like to see a 3rd div of NPL National Champions (and runners up to give plenty of teams for strict home and away season) play off in a 3rd national tier league. Winner of said league progresses into A2, the rest of the comp is replaced by the winners and runners up of that seasons National NPL's. Stop trying to make all teams the same but let them find their own level. Stop holding back big clubs from expanding to where they can go if the shackles are removed. I know people who fear that their club will be left behind if the "big" clubs go ahead without the restrictions in place, but doesn't a rising tide raise all boats? If more money and better known players are able to join our league, then the Burnley and Watford equivalents in our league can also afford better players due to better TV money they will share in also. It will be a great achievement to make it to the top tier and to try and stay their for smaller clubs, just as it is all over the world. Plus nothing stopping them from going all in on development of juniors and making money being a development club. So come on FFA, change the league format and get us moving towards what we need as a sport. But this will fall on deaf ears amid cries of sustainability. So my question is, does FFA actually suffer from a fear of success? Great post that Thanks, I don't speak/ write often, but when i do... haha Great initial post. The reality is that if AFC Bournemouth were an Aussie club, they wouldn't meet the metrics of their division and couldn't be in the top division. We need reality to impact the FFA sooner rather than later! Exactly. A mate of mine who supports CCM is a passionate advocate of the status quo, feating that his club would disappear without guaranteed top flight football. I doubt he would be alone in those fears, so I believe it's more than just the FFA we need to convince of the merits of change. Another friend is a Newcastle United supporter and the happiest I have seen him was when Newcastle romped it in while playing in the Championship a few years back. They won the trophy, got promoted and actually had something to get excited about. Sure he was filthy about getting relegated the season before, but due to their Championship form the following season, he could actually get as excited about their form as he was disappointed by their lack of it, the previous season. So dropping down a level is not the end of the line. Not if you are a determined club. We don't even give our clubs the chance at redemption. I also support CCM but know that the status quo will not remain. Paradoxically, while people lambast our owner for not spending enough on the squad he is investing in developing alternate revenue streams. This will mean a sustainable club in the very near future and eventually a future proof club that will have the wherewithal to bounce back quickly if the worst happens and we are relegated. I love that CCM are future proofing themselves. Better to get started on it now when there is no threat of relegation. Once PR does eventuate, if they should happen to fall, they would be well placed to bounce back up and hopefully pick up a nice trophy on the way back up (please FFA make the A2 trophy better than the toilet seat!). Heard it will be the lid on top. Heard it will be the bowl underneath, ready to catch adelaide united when we drop Surely it's the S-Bend? Certainly fucked if you went down any further Which brings me to my question (bare with me, TheSelectFew, don't tell me to fuck off, serious question), how does the "full pyramid" work where, at some point, you presumably have levels that are playing in winter? Do those clubs sit out 12 months after earning promotion? What about in the other direction? I'm actually warming to the idea of Pro/Rel. Massively risky but probably a better shot than the current "single-white-female" strategy which seems like a dead end. That seems the a big practical issue though - the summer winter thing Fuck off. As predictable as this A League season!
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K. +x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xSo FFA bosses are scared of many things. AFL, BBL, NRL, AFLW, TV deals, A League expansion, second division, removing salary cap, transfer fees between Australian clubs, instituting a system that rewards performance over a stale system that instead rewards inertia. But it seems to me, that being scared of their own sport and its potential might be highest on the list. I doubt anything other codes could do to keep football down would be as effective as the "strategy" for the sport currently being administered by FFA management and board. As others have said over numerous threads, stop comparing yourselves to other sports, reach out in a meaningful way to people who actually love/like football and engage them as participating fans by allowing their teams/areas to be represented at the highest level they can achieve on merit. Link the levels of the pyramids from top to bottom (via PR) and bring those back those football loving but isolated fans back into the fold. With A league on top, A2 beneath it, I would like to see a 3rd div of NPL National Champions (and runners up to give plenty of teams for strict home and away season) play off in a 3rd national tier league. Winner of said league progresses into A2, the rest of the comp is replaced by the winners and runners up of that seasons National NPL's. Stop trying to make all teams the same but let them find their own level. Stop holding back big clubs from expanding to where they can go if the shackles are removed. I know people who fear that their club will be left behind if the "big" clubs go ahead without the restrictions in place, but doesn't a rising tide raise all boats? If more money and better known players are able to join our league, then the Burnley and Watford equivalents in our league can also afford better players due to better TV money they will share in also. It will be a great achievement to make it to the top tier and to try and stay their for smaller clubs, just as it is all over the world. Plus nothing stopping them from going all in on development of juniors and making money being a development club. So come on FFA, change the league format and get us moving towards what we need as a sport. But this will fall on deaf ears amid cries of sustainability. So my question is, does FFA actually suffer from a fear of success? Great post that Thanks, I don't speak/ write often, but when i do... haha Great initial post. The reality is that if AFC Bournemouth were an Aussie club, they wouldn't meet the metrics of their division and couldn't be in the top division. We need reality to impact the FFA sooner rather than later! Exactly. A mate of mine who supports CCM is a passionate advocate of the status quo, feating that his club would disappear without guaranteed top flight football. I doubt he would be alone in those fears, so I believe it's more than just the FFA we need to convince of the merits of change. Another friend is a Newcastle United supporter and the happiest I have seen him was when Newcastle romped it in while playing in the Championship a few years back. They won the trophy, got promoted and actually had something to get excited about. Sure he was filthy about getting relegated the season before, but due to their Championship form the following season, he could actually get as excited about their form as he was disappointed by their lack of it, the previous season. So dropping down a level is not the end of the line. Not if you are a determined club. We don't even give our clubs the chance at redemption. I also support CCM but know that the status quo will not remain. Paradoxically, while people lambast our owner for not spending enough on the squad he is investing in developing alternate revenue streams. This will mean a sustainable club in the very near future and eventually a future proof club that will have the wherewithal to bounce back quickly if the worst happens and we are relegated. I love that CCM are future proofing themselves. Better to get started on it now when there is no threat of relegation. Once PR does eventuate, if they should happen to fall, they would be well placed to bounce back up and hopefully pick up a nice trophy on the way back up (please FFA make the A2 trophy better than the toilet seat!). Heard it will be the lid on top. Heard it will be the bowl underneath, ready to catch adelaide united when we drop Surely it's the S-Bend? Certainly fucked if you went down any further Which brings me to my question (bare with me, TheSelectFew, don't tell me to fuck off, serious question), how does the "full pyramid" work where, at some point, you presumably have levels that are playing in winter? Do those clubs sit out 12 months after earning promotion? What about in the other direction? I'm actually warming to the idea of Pro/Rel. Massively risky but probably a better shot than the current "single-white-female" strategy which seems like a dead end. That seems the a big practical issue though - the summer winter thing Fuck off. As predictable as this A League season! K.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xSo FFA bosses are scared of many things. AFL, BBL, NRL, AFLW, TV deals, A League expansion, second division, removing salary cap, transfer fees between Australian clubs, instituting a system that rewards performance over a stale system that instead rewards inertia. But it seems to me, that being scared of their own sport and its potential might be highest on the list. I doubt anything other codes could do to keep football down would be as effective as the "strategy" for the sport currently being administered by FFA management and board. As others have said over numerous threads, stop comparing yourselves to other sports, reach out in a meaningful way to people who actually love/like football and engage them as participating fans by allowing their teams/areas to be represented at the highest level they can achieve on merit. Link the levels of the pyramids from top to bottom (via PR) and bring those back those football loving but isolated fans back into the fold. With A league on top, A2 beneath it, I would like to see a 3rd div of NPL National Champions (and runners up to give plenty of teams for strict home and away season) play off in a 3rd national tier league. Winner of said league progresses into A2, the rest of the comp is replaced by the winners and runners up of that seasons National NPL's. Stop trying to make all teams the same but let them find their own level. Stop holding back big clubs from expanding to where they can go if the shackles are removed. I know people who fear that their club will be left behind if the "big" clubs go ahead without the restrictions in place, but doesn't a rising tide raise all boats? If more money and better known players are able to join our league, then the Burnley and Watford equivalents in our league can also afford better players due to better TV money they will share in also. It will be a great achievement to make it to the top tier and to try and stay their for smaller clubs, just as it is all over the world. Plus nothing stopping them from going all in on development of juniors and making money being a development club. So come on FFA, change the league format and get us moving towards what we need as a sport. But this will fall on deaf ears amid cries of sustainability. So my question is, does FFA actually suffer from a fear of success? Great post that Thanks, I don't speak/ write often, but when i do... haha Great initial post. The reality is that if AFC Bournemouth were an Aussie club, they wouldn't meet the metrics of their division and couldn't be in the top division. We need reality to impact the FFA sooner rather than later! Exactly. A mate of mine who supports CCM is a passionate advocate of the status quo, feating that his club would disappear without guaranteed top flight football. I doubt he would be alone in those fears, so I believe it's more than just the FFA we need to convince of the merits of change. Another friend is a Newcastle United supporter and the happiest I have seen him was when Newcastle romped it in while playing in the Championship a few years back. They won the trophy, got promoted and actually had something to get excited about. Sure he was filthy about getting relegated the season before, but due to their Championship form the following season, he could actually get as excited about their form as he was disappointed by their lack of it, the previous season. So dropping down a level is not the end of the line. Not if you are a determined club. We don't even give our clubs the chance at redemption. I also support CCM but know that the status quo will not remain. Paradoxically, while people lambast our owner for not spending enough on the squad he is investing in developing alternate revenue streams. This will mean a sustainable club in the very near future and eventually a future proof club that will have the wherewithal to bounce back quickly if the worst happens and we are relegated. I love that CCM are future proofing themselves. Better to get started on it now when there is no threat of relegation. Once PR does eventuate, if they should happen to fall, they would be well placed to bounce back up and hopefully pick up a nice trophy on the way back up (please FFA make the A2 trophy better than the toilet seat!). Heard it will be the lid on top. Heard it will be the bowl underneath, ready to catch adelaide united when we drop Surely it's the S-Bend? Certainly fucked if you went down any further Which brings me to my question (bare with me, TheSelectFew, don't tell me to fuck off, serious question), how does the "full pyramid" work where, at some point, you presumably have levels that are playing in winter? Do those clubs sit out 12 months after earning promotion? What about in the other direction? I'm actually warming to the idea of Pro/Rel. Massively risky but probably a better shot than the current "single-white-female" strategy which seems like a dead end. That seems the a big practical issue though - the summer winter thing Who are you fooling Mr Football
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xSo FFA bosses are scared of many things. AFL, BBL, NRL, AFLW, TV deals, A League expansion, second division, removing salary cap, transfer fees between Australian clubs, instituting a system that rewards performance over a stale system that instead rewards inertia. But it seems to me, that being scared of their own sport and its potential might be highest on the list. I doubt anything other codes could do to keep football down would be as effective as the "strategy" for the sport currently being administered by FFA management and board. As others have said over numerous threads, stop comparing yourselves to other sports, reach out in a meaningful way to people who actually love/like football and engage them as participating fans by allowing their teams/areas to be represented at the highest level they can achieve on merit. Link the levels of the pyramids from top to bottom (via PR) and bring those back those football loving but isolated fans back into the fold. With A league on top, A2 beneath it, I would like to see a 3rd div of NPL National Champions (and runners up to give plenty of teams for strict home and away season) play off in a 3rd national tier league. Winner of said league progresses into A2, the rest of the comp is replaced by the winners and runners up of that seasons National NPL's. Stop trying to make all teams the same but let them find their own level. Stop holding back big clubs from expanding to where they can go if the shackles are removed. I know people who fear that their club will be left behind if the "big" clubs go ahead without the restrictions in place, but doesn't a rising tide raise all boats? If more money and better known players are able to join our league, then the Burnley and Watford equivalents in our league can also afford better players due to better TV money they will share in also. It will be a great achievement to make it to the top tier and to try and stay their for smaller clubs, just as it is all over the world. Plus nothing stopping them from going all in on development of juniors and making money being a development club. So come on FFA, change the league format and get us moving towards what we need as a sport. But this will fall on deaf ears amid cries of sustainability. So my question is, does FFA actually suffer from a fear of success? Great post that Thanks, I don't speak/ write often, but when i do... haha Great initial post. The reality is that if AFC Bournemouth were an Aussie club, they wouldn't meet the metrics of their division and couldn't be in the top division. We need reality to impact the FFA sooner rather than later! Exactly. A mate of mine who supports CCM is a passionate advocate of the status quo, feating that his club would disappear without guaranteed top flight football. I doubt he would be alone in those fears, so I believe it's more than just the FFA we need to convince of the merits of change. Another friend is a Newcastle United supporter and the happiest I have seen him was when Newcastle romped it in while playing in the Championship a few years back. They won the trophy, got promoted and actually had something to get excited about. Sure he was filthy about getting relegated the season before, but due to their Championship form the following season, he could actually get as excited about their form as he was disappointed by their lack of it, the previous season. So dropping down a level is not the end of the line. Not if you are a determined club. We don't even give our clubs the chance at redemption. I also support CCM but know that the status quo will not remain. Paradoxically, while people lambast our owner for not spending enough on the squad he is investing in developing alternate revenue streams. This will mean a sustainable club in the very near future and eventually a future proof club that will have the wherewithal to bounce back quickly if the worst happens and we are relegated. I love that CCM are future proofing themselves. Better to get started on it now when there is no threat of relegation. Once PR does eventuate, if they should happen to fall, they would be well placed to bounce back up and hopefully pick up a nice trophy on the way back up (please FFA make the A2 trophy better than the toilet seat!). Heard it will be the lid on top. Heard it will be the bowl underneath, ready to catch adelaide united when we drop Surely it's the S-Bend? Certainly fucked if you went down any further Which brings me to my question (bare with me, TheSelectFew, don't tell me to fuck off, serious question), how does the "full pyramid" work where, at some point, you presumably have levels that are playing in winter? Do those clubs sit out 12 months after earning promotion? What about in the other direction? I'm actually warming to the idea of Pro/Rel. Massively risky but probably a better shot than the current "single-white-female" strategy which seems like a dead end. That seems the a big practical issue though - the summer winter thing Who are you fooling Mr Football I said warming to it....it is highly risky and there is no easy path forward... Surely someone supportive of the "full pyramid" model has thought through the summer / winter problem though? (I'm not Mr Football btw, I suspect he's "Pipinu")
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xSo FFA bosses are scared of many things. AFL, BBL, NRL, AFLW, TV deals, A League expansion, second division, removing salary cap, transfer fees between Australian clubs, instituting a system that rewards performance over a stale system that instead rewards inertia. But it seems to me, that being scared of their own sport and its potential might be highest on the list. I doubt anything other codes could do to keep football down would be as effective as the "strategy" for the sport currently being administered by FFA management and board. As others have said over numerous threads, stop comparing yourselves to other sports, reach out in a meaningful way to people who actually love/like football and engage them as participating fans by allowing their teams/areas to be represented at the highest level they can achieve on merit. Link the levels of the pyramids from top to bottom (via PR) and bring those back those football loving but isolated fans back into the fold. With A league on top, A2 beneath it, I would like to see a 3rd div of NPL National Champions (and runners up to give plenty of teams for strict home and away season) play off in a 3rd national tier league. Winner of said league progresses into A2, the rest of the comp is replaced by the winners and runners up of that seasons National NPL's. Stop trying to make all teams the same but let them find their own level. Stop holding back big clubs from expanding to where they can go if the shackles are removed. I know people who fear that their club will be left behind if the "big" clubs go ahead without the restrictions in place, but doesn't a rising tide raise all boats? If more money and better known players are able to join our league, then the Burnley and Watford equivalents in our league can also afford better players due to better TV money they will share in also. It will be a great achievement to make it to the top tier and to try and stay their for smaller clubs, just as it is all over the world. Plus nothing stopping them from going all in on development of juniors and making money being a development club. So come on FFA, change the league format and get us moving towards what we need as a sport. But this will fall on deaf ears amid cries of sustainability. So my question is, does FFA actually suffer from a fear of success? Great post that Thanks, I don't speak/ write often, but when i do... haha Great initial post. The reality is that if AFC Bournemouth were an Aussie club, they wouldn't meet the metrics of their division and couldn't be in the top division. We need reality to impact the FFA sooner rather than later! Exactly. A mate of mine who supports CCM is a passionate advocate of the status quo, feating that his club would disappear without guaranteed top flight football. I doubt he would be alone in those fears, so I believe it's more than just the FFA we need to convince of the merits of change. Another friend is a Newcastle United supporter and the happiest I have seen him was when Newcastle romped it in while playing in the Championship a few years back. They won the trophy, got promoted and actually had something to get excited about. Sure he was filthy about getting relegated the season before, but due to their Championship form the following season, he could actually get as excited about their form as he was disappointed by their lack of it, the previous season. So dropping down a level is not the end of the line. Not if you are a determined club. We don't even give our clubs the chance at redemption. I also support CCM but know that the status quo will not remain. Paradoxically, while people lambast our owner for not spending enough on the squad he is investing in developing alternate revenue streams. This will mean a sustainable club in the very near future and eventually a future proof club that will have the wherewithal to bounce back quickly if the worst happens and we are relegated. I love that CCM are future proofing themselves. Better to get started on it now when there is no threat of relegation. Once PR does eventuate, if they should happen to fall, they would be well placed to bounce back up and hopefully pick up a nice trophy on the way back up (please FFA make the A2 trophy better than the toilet seat!). Heard it will be the lid on top. Heard it will be the bowl underneath, ready to catch adelaide united when we drop Surely it's the S-Bend? Certainly fucked if you went down any further Which brings me to my question (bare with me, TheSelectFew, don't tell me to fuck off, serious question), how does the "full pyramid" work where, at some point, you presumably have levels that are playing in winter? Do those clubs sit out 12 months after earning promotion? What about in the other direction? I'm actually warming to the idea of Pro/Rel. Massively risky but probably a better shot than the current "single-white-female" strategy which seems like a dead end. That seems the a big practical issue though - the summer winter thing Who are you fooling Mr Football I said warming to it....it is highly risky and there is no easy path forward... Surely someone supportive of the "full pyramid" model has thought through the summer / winter problem though? (I'm not Mr Football btw, I suspect he's "Pipinu") Aww yeah? You reckon.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xSo FFA bosses are scared of many things. AFL, BBL, NRL, AFLW, TV deals, A League expansion, second division, removing salary cap, transfer fees between Australian clubs, instituting a system that rewards performance over a stale system that instead rewards inertia. But it seems to me, that being scared of their own sport and its potential might be highest on the list. I doubt anything other codes could do to keep football down would be as effective as the "strategy" for the sport currently being administered by FFA management and board. As others have said over numerous threads, stop comparing yourselves to other sports, reach out in a meaningful way to people who actually love/like football and engage them as participating fans by allowing their teams/areas to be represented at the highest level they can achieve on merit. Link the levels of the pyramids from top to bottom (via PR) and bring those back those football loving but isolated fans back into the fold. With A league on top, A2 beneath it, I would like to see a 3rd div of NPL National Champions (and runners up to give plenty of teams for strict home and away season) play off in a 3rd national tier league. Winner of said league progresses into A2, the rest of the comp is replaced by the winners and runners up of that seasons National NPL's. Stop trying to make all teams the same but let them find their own level. Stop holding back big clubs from expanding to where they can go if the shackles are removed. I know people who fear that their club will be left behind if the "big" clubs go ahead without the restrictions in place, but doesn't a rising tide raise all boats? If more money and better known players are able to join our league, then the Burnley and Watford equivalents in our league can also afford better players due to better TV money they will share in also. It will be a great achievement to make it to the top tier and to try and stay their for smaller clubs, just as it is all over the world. Plus nothing stopping them from going all in on development of juniors and making money being a development club. So come on FFA, change the league format and get us moving towards what we need as a sport. But this will fall on deaf ears amid cries of sustainability. So my question is, does FFA actually suffer from a fear of success? Great post that Thanks, I don't speak/ write often, but when i do... haha Great initial post. The reality is that if AFC Bournemouth were an Aussie club, they wouldn't meet the metrics of their division and couldn't be in the top division. We need reality to impact the FFA sooner rather than later! Exactly. A mate of mine who supports CCM is a passionate advocate of the status quo, feating that his club would disappear without guaranteed top flight football. I doubt he would be alone in those fears, so I believe it's more than just the FFA we need to convince of the merits of change. Another friend is a Newcastle United supporter and the happiest I have seen him was when Newcastle romped it in while playing in the Championship a few years back. They won the trophy, got promoted and actually had something to get excited about. Sure he was filthy about getting relegated the season before, but due to their Championship form the following season, he could actually get as excited about their form as he was disappointed by their lack of it, the previous season. So dropping down a level is not the end of the line. Not if you are a determined club. We don't even give our clubs the chance at redemption. I also support CCM but know that the status quo will not remain. Paradoxically, while people lambast our owner for not spending enough on the squad he is investing in developing alternate revenue streams. This will mean a sustainable club in the very near future and eventually a future proof club that will have the wherewithal to bounce back quickly if the worst happens and we are relegated. I love that CCM are future proofing themselves. Better to get started on it now when there is no threat of relegation. Once PR does eventuate, if they should happen to fall, they would be well placed to bounce back up and hopefully pick up a nice trophy on the way back up (please FFA make the A2 trophy better than the toilet seat!). Heard it will be the lid on top. Heard it will be the bowl underneath, ready to catch adelaide united when we drop Surely it's the S-Bend? Certainly fucked if you went down any further Which brings me to my question (bare with me, TheSelectFew, don't tell me to fuck off, serious question), how does the "full pyramid" work where, at some point, you presumably have levels that are playing in winter? Do those clubs sit out 12 months after earning promotion? What about in the other direction? I'm actually warming to the idea of Pro/Rel. Massively risky but probably a better shot than the current "single-white-female" strategy which seems like a dead end. That seems the a big practical issue though - the summer winter thing Who are you fooling Mr Football I said warming to it....it is highly risky and there is no easy path forward... Surely someone supportive of the "full pyramid" model has thought through the summer / winter problem though? (I'm not Mr Football btw, I suspect he's "Pipinu") You could have the B-league/A-league 2 (whatever it is called) in the summer as well. The only thing that would stay in the winter would be our state NPL competitions. Maybe we could have them starting later.. maybe the B-league/A-league 2 could be a shorter season so that there is a month between seasons for this clubs that drop from B-league/A-league 2 to their state NPL have enough time to get ready.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xSo FFA bosses are scared of many things. AFL, BBL, NRL, AFLW, TV deals, A League expansion, second division, removing salary cap, transfer fees between Australian clubs, instituting a system that rewards performance over a stale system that instead rewards inertia. But it seems to me, that being scared of their own sport and its potential might be highest on the list. I doubt anything other codes could do to keep football down would be as effective as the "strategy" for the sport currently being administered by FFA management and board. As others have said over numerous threads, stop comparing yourselves to other sports, reach out in a meaningful way to people who actually love/like football and engage them as participating fans by allowing their teams/areas to be represented at the highest level they can achieve on merit. Link the levels of the pyramids from top to bottom (via PR) and bring those back those football loving but isolated fans back into the fold. With A league on top, A2 beneath it, I would like to see a 3rd div of NPL National Champions (and runners up to give plenty of teams for strict home and away season) play off in a 3rd national tier league. Winner of said league progresses into A2, the rest of the comp is replaced by the winners and runners up of that seasons National NPL's. Stop trying to make all teams the same but let them find their own level. Stop holding back big clubs from expanding to where they can go if the shackles are removed. I know people who fear that their club will be left behind if the "big" clubs go ahead without the restrictions in place, but doesn't a rising tide raise all boats? If more money and better known players are able to join our league, then the Burnley and Watford equivalents in our league can also afford better players due to better TV money they will share in also. It will be a great achievement to make it to the top tier and to try and stay their for smaller clubs, just as it is all over the world. Plus nothing stopping them from going all in on development of juniors and making money being a development club. So come on FFA, change the league format and get us moving towards what we need as a sport. But this will fall on deaf ears amid cries of sustainability. So my question is, does FFA actually suffer from a fear of success? Great post that Thanks, I don't speak/ write often, but when i do... haha Great initial post. The reality is that if AFC Bournemouth were an Aussie club, they wouldn't meet the metrics of their division and couldn't be in the top division. We need reality to impact the FFA sooner rather than later! Exactly. A mate of mine who supports CCM is a passionate advocate of the status quo, feating that his club would disappear without guaranteed top flight football. I doubt he would be alone in those fears, so I believe it's more than just the FFA we need to convince of the merits of change. Another friend is a Newcastle United supporter and the happiest I have seen him was when Newcastle romped it in while playing in the Championship a few years back. They won the trophy, got promoted and actually had something to get excited about. Sure he was filthy about getting relegated the season before, but due to their Championship form the following season, he could actually get as excited about their form as he was disappointed by their lack of it, the previous season. So dropping down a level is not the end of the line. Not if you are a determined club. We don't even give our clubs the chance at redemption. I also support CCM but know that the status quo will not remain. Paradoxically, while people lambast our owner for not spending enough on the squad he is investing in developing alternate revenue streams. This will mean a sustainable club in the very near future and eventually a future proof club that will have the wherewithal to bounce back quickly if the worst happens and we are relegated. I love that CCM are future proofing themselves. Better to get started on it now when there is no threat of relegation. Once PR does eventuate, if they should happen to fall, they would be well placed to bounce back up and hopefully pick up a nice trophy on the way back up (please FFA make the A2 trophy better than the toilet seat!). Heard it will be the lid on top. Heard it will be the bowl underneath, ready to catch adelaide united when we drop All depends what cistern you play
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xSo FFA bosses are scared of many things. AFL, BBL, NRL, AFLW, TV deals, A League expansion, second division, removing salary cap, transfer fees between Australian clubs, instituting a system that rewards performance over a stale system that instead rewards inertia. But it seems to me, that being scared of their own sport and its potential might be highest on the list. I doubt anything other codes could do to keep football down would be as effective as the "strategy" for the sport currently being administered by FFA management and board. As others have said over numerous threads, stop comparing yourselves to other sports, reach out in a meaningful way to people who actually love/like football and engage them as participating fans by allowing their teams/areas to be represented at the highest level they can achieve on merit. Link the levels of the pyramids from top to bottom (via PR) and bring those back those football loving but isolated fans back into the fold. With A league on top, A2 beneath it, I would like to see a 3rd div of NPL National Champions (and runners up to give plenty of teams for strict home and away season) play off in a 3rd national tier league. Winner of said league progresses into A2, the rest of the comp is replaced by the winners and runners up of that seasons National NPL's. Stop trying to make all teams the same but let them find their own level. Stop holding back big clubs from expanding to where they can go if the shackles are removed. I know people who fear that their club will be left behind if the "big" clubs go ahead without the restrictions in place, but doesn't a rising tide raise all boats? If more money and better known players are able to join our league, then the Burnley and Watford equivalents in our league can also afford better players due to better TV money they will share in also. It will be a great achievement to make it to the top tier and to try and stay their for smaller clubs, just as it is all over the world. Plus nothing stopping them from going all in on development of juniors and making money being a development club. So come on FFA, change the league format and get us moving towards what we need as a sport. But this will fall on deaf ears amid cries of sustainability. So my question is, does FFA actually suffer from a fear of success? Great post that Thanks, I don't speak/ write often, but when i do... haha Great initial post. The reality is that if AFC Bournemouth were an Aussie club, they wouldn't meet the metrics of their division and couldn't be in the top division. We need reality to impact the FFA sooner rather than later! Exactly. A mate of mine who supports CCM is a passionate advocate of the status quo, feating that his club would disappear without guaranteed top flight football. I doubt he would be alone in those fears, so I believe it's more than just the FFA we need to convince of the merits of change. Another friend is a Newcastle United supporter and the happiest I have seen him was when Newcastle romped it in while playing in the Championship a few years back. They won the trophy, got promoted and actually had something to get excited about. Sure he was filthy about getting relegated the season before, but due to their Championship form the following season, he could actually get as excited about their form as he was disappointed by their lack of it, the previous season. So dropping down a level is not the end of the line. Not if you are a determined club. We don't even give our clubs the chance at redemption. I also support CCM but know that the status quo will not remain. Paradoxically, while people lambast our owner for not spending enough on the squad he is investing in developing alternate revenue streams. This will mean a sustainable club in the very near future and eventually a future proof club that will have the wherewithal to bounce back quickly if the worst happens and we are relegated. I love that CCM are future proofing themselves. Better to get started on it now when there is no threat of relegation. Once PR does eventuate, if they should happen to fall, they would be well placed to bounce back up and hopefully pick up a nice trophy on the way back up (please FFA make the A2 trophy better than the toilet seat!). Heard it will be the lid on top. Heard it will be the bowl underneath, ready to catch adelaide united when we drop All depends what cistern you play Aha Oh dear.....
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xSo FFA bosses are scared of many things. AFL, BBL, NRL, AFLW, TV deals, A League expansion, second division, removing salary cap, transfer fees between Australian clubs, instituting a system that rewards performance over a stale system that instead rewards inertia. But it seems to me, that being scared of their own sport and its potential might be highest on the list. I doubt anything other codes could do to keep football down would be as effective as the "strategy" for the sport currently being administered by FFA management and board. As others have said over numerous threads, stop comparing yourselves to other sports, reach out in a meaningful way to people who actually love/like football and engage them as participating fans by allowing their teams/areas to be represented at the highest level they can achieve on merit. Link the levels of the pyramids from top to bottom (via PR) and bring those back those football loving but isolated fans back into the fold. With A league on top, A2 beneath it, I would like to see a 3rd div of NPL National Champions (and runners up to give plenty of teams for strict home and away season) play off in a 3rd national tier league. Winner of said league progresses into A2, the rest of the comp is replaced by the winners and runners up of that seasons National NPL's. Stop trying to make all teams the same but let them find their own level. Stop holding back big clubs from expanding to where they can go if the shackles are removed. I know people who fear that their club will be left behind if the "big" clubs go ahead without the restrictions in place, but doesn't a rising tide raise all boats? If more money and better known players are able to join our league, then the Burnley and Watford equivalents in our league can also afford better players due to better TV money they will share in also. It will be a great achievement to make it to the top tier and to try and stay their for smaller clubs, just as it is all over the world. Plus nothing stopping them from going all in on development of juniors and making money being a development club. So come on FFA, change the league format and get us moving towards what we need as a sport. But this will fall on deaf ears amid cries of sustainability. So my question is, does FFA actually suffer from a fear of success? Great post that Thanks, I don't speak/ write often, but when i do... haha Great initial post. The reality is that if AFC Bournemouth were an Aussie club, they wouldn't meet the metrics of their division and couldn't be in the top division. We need reality to impact the FFA sooner rather than later! Exactly. A mate of mine who supports CCM is a passionate advocate of the status quo, feating that his club would disappear without guaranteed top flight football. I doubt he would be alone in those fears, so I believe it's more than just the FFA we need to convince of the merits of change. Another friend is a Newcastle United supporter and the happiest I have seen him was when Newcastle romped it in while playing in the Championship a few years back. They won the trophy, got promoted and actually had something to get excited about. Sure he was filthy about getting relegated the season before, but due to their Championship form the following season, he could actually get as excited about their form as he was disappointed by their lack of it, the previous season. So dropping down a level is not the end of the line. Not if you are a determined club. We don't even give our clubs the chance at redemption. I also support CCM but know that the status quo will not remain. Paradoxically, while people lambast our owner for not spending enough on the squad he is investing in developing alternate revenue streams. This will mean a sustainable club in the very near future and eventually a future proof club that will have the wherewithal to bounce back quickly if the worst happens and we are relegated. I love that CCM are future proofing themselves. Better to get started on it now when there is no threat of relegation. Once PR does eventuate, if they should happen to fall, they would be well placed to bounce back up and hopefully pick up a nice trophy on the way back up (please FFA make the A2 trophy better than the toilet seat!). Heard it will be the lid on top. Heard it will be the bowl underneath, ready to catch adelaide united when we drop All depends what cistern you play Aha Oh dear..... C'mon - after over 4000 posts Timmy finally got a smile out of me.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xSo FFA bosses are scared of many things. AFL, BBL, NRL, AFLW, TV deals, A League expansion, second division, removing salary cap, transfer fees between Australian clubs, instituting a system that rewards performance over a stale system that instead rewards inertia. But it seems to me, that being scared of their own sport and its potential might be highest on the list. I doubt anything other codes could do to keep football down would be as effective as the "strategy" for the sport currently being administered by FFA management and board. As others have said over numerous threads, stop comparing yourselves to other sports, reach out in a meaningful way to people who actually love/like football and engage them as participating fans by allowing their teams/areas to be represented at the highest level they can achieve on merit. Link the levels of the pyramids from top to bottom (via PR) and bring those back those football loving but isolated fans back into the fold. With A league on top, A2 beneath it, I would like to see a 3rd div of NPL National Champions (and runners up to give plenty of teams for strict home and away season) play off in a 3rd national tier league. Winner of said league progresses into A2, the rest of the comp is replaced by the winners and runners up of that seasons National NPL's. Stop trying to make all teams the same but let them find their own level. Stop holding back big clubs from expanding to where they can go if the shackles are removed. I know people who fear that their club will be left behind if the "big" clubs go ahead without the restrictions in place, but doesn't a rising tide raise all boats? If more money and better known players are able to join our league, then the Burnley and Watford equivalents in our league can also afford better players due to better TV money they will share in also. It will be a great achievement to make it to the top tier and to try and stay their for smaller clubs, just as it is all over the world. Plus nothing stopping them from going all in on development of juniors and making money being a development club. So come on FFA, change the league format and get us moving towards what we need as a sport. But this will fall on deaf ears amid cries of sustainability. So my question is, does FFA actually suffer from a fear of success? Great post that Thanks, I don't speak/ write often, but when i do... haha Great initial post. The reality is that if AFC Bournemouth were an Aussie club, they wouldn't meet the metrics of their division and couldn't be in the top division. We need reality to impact the FFA sooner rather than later! Exactly. A mate of mine who supports CCM is a passionate advocate of the status quo, feating that his club would disappear without guaranteed top flight football. I doubt he would be alone in those fears, so I believe it's more than just the FFA we need to convince of the merits of change. Another friend is a Newcastle United supporter and the happiest I have seen him was when Newcastle romped it in while playing in the Championship a few years back. They won the trophy, got promoted and actually had something to get excited about. Sure he was filthy about getting relegated the season before, but due to their Championship form the following season, he could actually get as excited about their form as he was disappointed by their lack of it, the previous season. So dropping down a level is not the end of the line. Not if you are a determined club. We don't even give our clubs the chance at redemption. I also support CCM but know that the status quo will not remain. Paradoxically, while people lambast our owner for not spending enough on the squad he is investing in developing alternate revenue streams. This will mean a sustainable club in the very near future and eventually a future proof club that will have the wherewithal to bounce back quickly if the worst happens and we are relegated. I love that CCM are future proofing themselves. Better to get started on it now when there is no threat of relegation. Once PR does eventuate, if they should happen to fall, they would be well placed to bounce back up and hopefully pick up a nice trophy on the way back up (please FFA make the A2 trophy better than the toilet seat!). Heard it will be the lid on top. Heard it will be the bowl underneath, ready to catch adelaide united when we drop Surely it's the S-Bend? Certainly fucked if you went down any further Which brings me to my question (bare with me, TheSelectFew, don't tell me to fuck off, serious question), how does the "full pyramid" work where, at some point, you presumably have levels that are playing in winter? Do those clubs sit out 12 months after earning promotion? What about in the other direction? I'm actually warming to the idea of Pro/Rel. Massively risky but probably a better shot than the current "single-white-female" strategy which seems like a dead end. That seems the a big practical issue though - the summer winter thing Who are you fooling Mr Football I said warming to it....it is highly risky and there is no easy path forward... Surely someone supportive of the "full pyramid" model has thought through the summer / winter problem though? (I'm not Mr Football btw, I suspect he's "Pipinu") You could have the B-league/A-league 2 (whatever it is called) in the summer as well. The only thing that would stay in the winter would be our state NPL competitions. Maybe we could have them starting later.. maybe the B-league/A-league 2 could be a shorter season so that there is a month between seasons for this clubs that drop from B-league/A-league 2 to their state NPL have enough time to get ready. That's my assumption. You would either need to "stagger" the bridging leagues between summer and winter or have a "purgatory" league between , say. the second division and the state leagues that, say, ran from November to April If the A and A2 leagues had 14 teams, the A3 might have 12 teams and play a 22 match season. Relegated clubs drop straight in to the state season (with no chance of promotion) or wait until the next season
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xSo FFA bosses are scared of many things. AFL, BBL, NRL, AFLW, TV deals, A League expansion, second division, removing salary cap, transfer fees between Australian clubs, instituting a system that rewards performance over a stale system that instead rewards inertia. But it seems to me, that being scared of their own sport and its potential might be highest on the list. I doubt anything other codes could do to keep football down would be as effective as the "strategy" for the sport currently being administered by FFA management and board. As others have said over numerous threads, stop comparing yourselves to other sports, reach out in a meaningful way to people who actually love/like football and engage them as participating fans by allowing their teams/areas to be represented at the highest level they can achieve on merit. Link the levels of the pyramids from top to bottom (via PR) and bring those back those football loving but isolated fans back into the fold. With A league on top, A2 beneath it, I would like to see a 3rd div of NPL National Champions (and runners up to give plenty of teams for strict home and away season) play off in a 3rd national tier league. Winner of said league progresses into A2, the rest of the comp is replaced by the winners and runners up of that seasons National NPL's. Stop trying to make all teams the same but let them find their own level. Stop holding back big clubs from expanding to where they can go if the shackles are removed. I know people who fear that their club will be left behind if the "big" clubs go ahead without the restrictions in place, but doesn't a rising tide raise all boats? If more money and better known players are able to join our league, then the Burnley and Watford equivalents in our league can also afford better players due to better TV money they will share in also. It will be a great achievement to make it to the top tier and to try and stay their for smaller clubs, just as it is all over the world. Plus nothing stopping them from going all in on development of juniors and making money being a development club. So come on FFA, change the league format and get us moving towards what we need as a sport. But this will fall on deaf ears amid cries of sustainability. So my question is, does FFA actually suffer from a fear of success? Great post that Thanks, I don't speak/ write often, but when i do... haha Great initial post. The reality is that if AFC Bournemouth were an Aussie club, they wouldn't meet the metrics of their division and couldn't be in the top division. We need reality to impact the FFA sooner rather than later! Exactly. A mate of mine who supports CCM is a passionate advocate of the status quo, feating that his club would disappear without guaranteed top flight football. I doubt he would be alone in those fears, so I believe it's more than just the FFA we need to convince of the merits of change. Another friend is a Newcastle United supporter and the happiest I have seen him was when Newcastle romped it in while playing in the Championship a few years back. They won the trophy, got promoted and actually had something to get excited about. Sure he was filthy about getting relegated the season before, but due to their Championship form the following season, he could actually get as excited about their form as he was disappointed by their lack of it, the previous season. So dropping down a level is not the end of the line. Not if you are a determined club. We don't even give our clubs the chance at redemption. I also support CCM but know that the status quo will not remain. Paradoxically, while people lambast our owner for not spending enough on the squad he is investing in developing alternate revenue streams. This will mean a sustainable club in the very near future and eventually a future proof club that will have the wherewithal to bounce back quickly if the worst happens and we are relegated. I love that CCM are future proofing themselves. Better to get started on it now when there is no threat of relegation. Once PR does eventuate, if they should happen to fall, they would be well placed to bounce back up and hopefully pick up a nice trophy on the way back up (please FFA make the A2 trophy better than the toilet seat!). Heard it will be the lid on top. Heard it will be the bowl underneath, ready to catch adelaide united when we drop Surely it's the S-Bend? Certainly fucked if you went down any further Which brings me to my question (bare with me, TheSelectFew, don't tell me to fuck off, serious question), how does the "full pyramid" work where, at some point, you presumably have levels that are playing in winter? Do those clubs sit out 12 months after earning promotion? What about in the other direction? I'm actually warming to the idea of Pro/Rel. Massively risky but probably a better shot than the current "single-white-female" strategy which seems like a dead end. That seems the a big practical issue though - the summer winter thing Fuck off. As predictable as this A League season! Unlike the AFL where the team that finished 7th became the premiers!!!! :Whistling:
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xSo FFA bosses are scared of many things. AFL, BBL, NRL, AFLW, TV deals, A League expansion, second division, removing salary cap, transfer fees between Australian clubs, instituting a system that rewards performance over a stale system that instead rewards inertia. But it seems to me, that being scared of their own sport and its potential might be highest on the list. I doubt anything other codes could do to keep football down would be as effective as the "strategy" for the sport currently being administered by FFA management and board. As others have said over numerous threads, stop comparing yourselves to other sports, reach out in a meaningful way to people who actually love/like football and engage them as participating fans by allowing their teams/areas to be represented at the highest level they can achieve on merit. Link the levels of the pyramids from top to bottom (via PR) and bring those back those football loving but isolated fans back into the fold. With A league on top, A2 beneath it, I would like to see a 3rd div of NPL National Champions (and runners up to give plenty of teams for strict home and away season) play off in a 3rd national tier league. Winner of said league progresses into A2, the rest of the comp is replaced by the winners and runners up of that seasons National NPL's. Stop trying to make all teams the same but let them find their own level. Stop holding back big clubs from expanding to where they can go if the shackles are removed. I know people who fear that their club will be left behind if the "big" clubs go ahead without the restrictions in place, but doesn't a rising tide raise all boats? If more money and better known players are able to join our league, then the Burnley and Watford equivalents in our league can also afford better players due to better TV money they will share in also. It will be a great achievement to make it to the top tier and to try and stay their for smaller clubs, just as it is all over the world. Plus nothing stopping them from going all in on development of juniors and making money being a development club. So come on FFA, change the league format and get us moving towards what we need as a sport. But this will fall on deaf ears amid cries of sustainability. So my question is, does FFA actually suffer from a fear of success? Great post that Thanks, I don't speak/ write often, but when i do... haha Great initial post. The reality is that if AFC Bournemouth were an Aussie club, they wouldn't meet the metrics of their division and couldn't be in the top division. We need reality to impact the FFA sooner rather than later! Exactly. A mate of mine who supports CCM is a passionate advocate of the status quo, feating that his club would disappear without guaranteed top flight football. I doubt he would be alone in those fears, so I believe it's more than just the FFA we need to convince of the merits of change. Another friend is a Newcastle United supporter and the happiest I have seen him was when Newcastle romped it in while playing in the Championship a few years back. They won the trophy, got promoted and actually had something to get excited about. Sure he was filthy about getting relegated the season before, but due to their Championship form the following season, he could actually get as excited about their form as he was disappointed by their lack of it, the previous season. So dropping down a level is not the end of the line. Not if you are a determined club. We don't even give our clubs the chance at redemption. I also support CCM but know that the status quo will not remain. Paradoxically, while people lambast our owner for not spending enough on the squad he is investing in developing alternate revenue streams. This will mean a sustainable club in the very near future and eventually a future proof club that will have the wherewithal to bounce back quickly if the worst happens and we are relegated. I love that CCM are future proofing themselves. Better to get started on it now when there is no threat of relegation. Once PR does eventuate, if they should happen to fall, they would be well placed to bounce back up and hopefully pick up a nice trophy on the way back up (please FFA make the A2 trophy better than the toilet seat!). Heard it will be the lid on top. Heard it will be the bowl underneath, ready to catch adelaide united when we drop All depends what cistern you play Aha Oh dear..... C'mon - after over 4000 posts Timmy finally got a smile out of me. 
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+xSo basically the current state of play is that the 2 preffered teams the ffa would want are nowhere near ready, so we are delaying it, don't expect to hear anything worth listening to from the ffa until something starts cooking with the 3rd Sydney team, they must be struggling to find suckers. The whole thing is a scam, kinda hoping we pull our bid, they have already made it obvious that ours and tasmanias is out the door. I really hope so. Lay back until the lowys are well and truly gone and the governing body has its shit together. Im dead serious. Just keep doing your thing imo, but make winning the ffa cup every year the prime directive of the club. Shove it up lowy any chance you get.
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+x+xSo basically the current state of play is that the 2 preffered teams the ffa would want are nowhere near ready, so we are delaying it, don't expect to hear anything worth listening to from the ffa until something starts cooking with the 3rd Sydney team, they must be struggling to find suckers. The whole thing is a scam, kinda hoping we pull our bid, they have already made it obvious that ours and tasmanias is out the door. I really hope so. Lay back until the lowys are well and truly gone and the governing body has its shit together. Im dead serious. Just keep doing your thing imo, but make winning the ffa cup every year the prime directive of the club. Shove it up lowy any chance you get. Bring back the NSL, the FFA has done a shit job!!!!
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+x+x+xSo basically the current state of play is that the 2 preffered teams the ffa would want are nowhere near ready, so we are delaying it, don't expect to hear anything worth listening to from the ffa until something starts cooking with the 3rd Sydney team, they must be struggling to find suckers. The whole thing is a scam, kinda hoping we pull our bid, they have already made it obvious that ours and tasmanias is out the door. I really hope so. Lay back until the lowys are well and truly gone and the governing body has its shit together. Im dead serious. Just keep doing your thing imo, but make winning the ffa cup every year the prime directive of the club. Shove it up lowy any chance you get. Bring back the NSL, the FFA has done a shit job!!!! Retarded comment. And yeah the infamously corrupt lowy dynasty have engaged 18% of participants and a closed salary capped league of 9 aus teams in over a decade. Whatever floats your boat.
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+x+x+x+xSo basically the current state of play is that the 2 preffered teams the ffa would want are nowhere near ready, so we are delaying it, don't expect to hear anything worth listening to from the ffa until something starts cooking with the 3rd Sydney team, they must be struggling to find suckers. The whole thing is a scam, kinda hoping we pull our bid, they have already made it obvious that ours and tasmanias is out the door. I really hope so. Lay back until the lowys are well and truly gone and the governing body has its shit together. Im dead serious. Just keep doing your thing imo, but make winning the ffa cup every year the prime directive of the club. Shove it up lowy any chance you get. Bring back the NSL, the FFA has done a shit job!!!! Retarded comment. And yeah the infamously corrupt lowy dynasty have engaged 18% of participants and a closed salary capped league of 9 aus teams in over a decade. Whatever floats your boat. Thanks for your intelligent comment!!! Follow the game for 40 years now, the game has never been better, far from perfect, yes, but not the doom & gloom you project, you want corrupt dynasties, have a look at your beloved Sth Melb & the old NSL. Have a nice day.
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+x+x+x+x+xSo basically the current state of play is that the 2 preffered teams the ffa would want are nowhere near ready, so we are delaying it, don't expect to hear anything worth listening to from the ffa until something starts cooking with the 3rd Sydney team, they must be struggling to find suckers. The whole thing is a scam, kinda hoping we pull our bid, they have already made it obvious that ours and tasmanias is out the door. I really hope so. Lay back until the lowys are well and truly gone and the governing body has its shit together. Im dead serious. Just keep doing your thing imo, but make winning the ffa cup every year the prime directive of the club. Shove it up lowy any chance you get. Bring back the NSL, the FFA has done a shit job!!!! Retarded comment. And yeah the infamously corrupt lowy dynasty have engaged 18% of participants and a closed salary capped league of 9 aus teams in over a decade. Whatever floats your boat. Thanks for your intelligent comment!!! Follow the game for 40 years now, the game has never been better, far from perfect, yes, but not the doom & gloom you project, you want corrupt dynasties, have a look at your beloved Sth Melb & the old NSL. Have a nice day. That's right folks, no matter how many times the FFA cock everything up, display rampant nepotism or refuse to listen to fan demands, it doesn't matter as long as things are only marginally better than a semi-professional league that finished up nearly 15 years ago. Way to aim high.
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+x+x+x+x+xSo basically the current state of play is that the 2 preffered teams the ffa would want are nowhere near ready, so we are delaying it, don't expect to hear anything worth listening to from the ffa until something starts cooking with the 3rd Sydney team, they must be struggling to find suckers. The whole thing is a scam, kinda hoping we pull our bid, they have already made it obvious that ours and tasmanias is out the door. I really hope so. Lay back until the lowys are well and truly gone and the governing body has its shit together. Im dead serious. Just keep doing your thing imo, but make winning the ffa cup every year the prime directive of the club. Shove it up lowy any chance you get. Bring back the NSL, the FFA has done a shit job!!!! Retarded comment. And yeah the infamously corrupt lowy dynasty have engaged 18% of participants and a closed salary capped league of 9 aus teams in over a decade. Whatever floats your boat. Thanks for your intelligent comment!!! Follow the game for 40 years now, the game has never been better, far from perfect, yes, but not the doom & gloom you project, you want corrupt dynasties, have a look at your beloved Sth Melb & the old NSL. Have a nice day. Bahaha. Such a defensive delicate flower arent you. Um maybe you havent noticed the very lowys you defend are in hot water with their overlords, who are finally forcing their hand to reform the corrupt and inept governance they have instilled in our game. You have two gears - nsl , hal. Pedestrian lesser of two evils argument. I dont hate ffa. I hate lowys and and their puppet gallop. Replace them and i might just love the ffa. Open the hal up and i might just fall back in love with that too again. And if by the "game has never been better" you mean no div2 on the horizon, no pr, 9 pro clubs, shit 6 year tv deal, corrupt incompetent leadership, no transfers, reduced squad sizes, etc etc etc then like i said, whatever floats your boat. I prefer the good things weve achieved without having to compromise the very integrity credibility and growth of the sport in this country.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xSo basically the current state of play is that the 2 preffered teams the ffa would want are nowhere near ready, so we are delaying it, don't expect to hear anything worth listening to from the ffa until something starts cooking with the 3rd Sydney team, they must be struggling to find suckers. The whole thing is a scam, kinda hoping we pull our bid, they have already made it obvious that ours and tasmanias is out the door. I really hope so. Lay back until the lowys are well and truly gone and the governing body has its shit together. Im dead serious. Just keep doing your thing imo, but make winning the ffa cup every year the prime directive of the club. Shove it up lowy any chance you get. Bring back the NSL, the FFA has done a shit job!!!! Retarded comment. And yeah the infamously corrupt lowy dynasty have engaged 18% of participants and a closed salary capped league of 9 aus teams in over a decade. Whatever floats your boat. Thanks for your intelligent comment!!! Follow the game for 40 years now, the game has never been better, far from perfect, yes, but not the doom & gloom you project, you want corrupt dynasties, have a look at your beloved Sth Melb & the old NSL. Have a nice day. That's right folks, no matter how many times the FFA cock everything up, display rampant nepotism or refuse to listen to fan demands, it doesn't matter as long as things are only marginally better than a semi-professional league that finished up nearly 15 years ago.Way to aim high. Bahahaha. True true. Makes em feel tough beating up on the semi pros.
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