The A-league Expansion Thread


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I have set up a new facebook page:
A-League for South West Sydney
You can check it out, build up support.... :)

because eventually it will happen. NRL and ALeague should be placing permanent teams in this growing area , the NSW govt will be building another stadium soon in the sydney basin so liverpool should be the area. (close to new airport, population growth etc). Just need another Man city to invest in a new team. (part of football heartland in Sydney)
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paladisious wrote:
WaMackie wrote:
walnuts wrote:
BrisbaneBhoy wrote:
Current 10 + a team based in the folllowing;
Canberra
Tasmania
Wollongong
Ipswich
North Queensland
Darwin
Auckland
Geelong

Along with a team or two from Indonesia, and a team or two from Malaysia.


I will never understand you people who wish for this to happen.


But an NZ based team or two is OK now is it? It ithat becuase NZ is Anglo? Underhanded racism at work here.

Probably more because Indonesia, Malaysia, etc already sustain their own pro leagues, unlike NZ.
using this reasoning PNG and Solomon Islands for A-league :-s
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williamn wrote:

good riddance, however it's safe to say that Auckland if done right could be an a-league powerhouse whereas Malaysia and Indonesia would be a logistical nightmare and would be one of those teams which would draw poor away crowds


on paper, you'd think a city of 1.5 million people (and growing), the financial centre of nz, with no professional football team.....that there would be a truckload of investors who love the game, willing to get on board to create a new Auckland franchise that would blow the Phoenix out of the water in terms of professionalism and big name signings......it's very strange tbh



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if the ffa leans towards the side of choosing clubs that will generate rivalries and more big games rather than being just another team, auckland (wellington), wollongong (nsw+glory), ipswich(brisbane) would be the teams to get the nods up.

north queensland would have a small effect on brisbane, canberra might get a bit from nsw and victoria so they might be worthwhile as the 4th on the list above. tasmania may get a little more from victoria and also under this idea 3rd clubs in sydney and melbourne would be favoured.

for me it would be
11. wollongong wolves
12. auckland city
since they are both established clubs in their own leagues, have suitable stadiums and now would be the perfect time for both since wellington phoenix is stable, whispers of a new stadium and would hugely benefit with a boost and we have seen the impact of travelling away support in nsw.

13. ipswich pride
14. canberra republic
in order to give ipswich time for their population to grow to what people say it will reach and also to give their mayor time to develop their stadium. 14th id have canberra at the moment over north old and tasmania or further moves into vic and nsw. their womens team has strong support and this should be used to establish a team in their npl.
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Any kind of idea on expected crowd in Geelong?



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Just a reminder note, Frank Lowy has stated a number of times since the A-League's outset that 'the plan/goal' was for the A-League to be a '12-14 team' league. So that's only 2-4 more teams.

So take your pick of the clear, long running, candidates:

North Queensland Fury - Well documented, covered on this site, recently.
South Coast Wolves (Wollongong)
A-League4Canberra (Ivan Slavich and co, could be revived)
and
Tasmania United

...

Heck, those COULD be THE four to 14?!

Potential challengers though, bids from:

Geelong
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Ipswich - http://au.fourfourtwo.com/forums/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1750151&

No other markets have been suggested, NOR are any other markets suitable, worthy. Gold Coast has been tried and through that experience ruled out for the A-League, for a 12-14 team A-League anyway. A national second tier on the other hand, could bring possibilities for Gold Coast, Geelong, Darwin, Cairns and other possibilities.

IMHO, realistic, Fury + Canberra = 12 and later, South Coast + Ipswich, Tasmania or Geelong. Ipswich most logical/likely IMHO. That's the 14 team league at max, IF the FFA go beyond 12 to 14, ofcourse. Then the awaited 'B-League/A2-League' concept for 'the best 8-10 markets of the rest'.

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WaMackie wrote:
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Your anti NZ shite is bordering on xenophobic and is utterly boring as fuck.


if you can't say it to my face, don't type it.


No if you're going to carry on like a knob, then someone is going to call you out. I'd say it to your face with great pleasure.

Viennese Vuck

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WaMackie wrote:
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And also pretty amusing when he called others xenophobic for not supporting the malaysia/indonesia idea


If we're going to open the league up to non-Australian based teams, then the likes of Malaysia and Indonesia have the same rights to our league as NZ does.

I'm done discussing this.


good riddance, however it's safe to say that Auckland if done right could be an a-league powerhouse whereas Malaysia and Indonesia would be a logistical nightmare and would be one of those teams which would draw poor away crowds
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Decazz wrote:
And also pretty amusing when he called others xenophobic for not supporting the malaysia/indonesia idea


If we're going to open the league up to non-Australian based teams, then the likes of Malaysia and Indonesia have the same rights to our league as NZ does.

I'm done discussing this.
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melbourne_terrace wrote:
Your anti NZ shite is bordering on xenophobic and is utterly boring as fuck.


if you can't say it to my face, don't type it.
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Canberra FC is just going to be Canberra Fat Cats

Cosmos? It's just wierd, like a flower or galaxy?
Capital Punishment is the best I've heard so far

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ffs an Asian A-League team isn't going to happen, and it shouldn't.

New Zealand to the A-League is what Wales is to the Premier League.

Adding a team from Malaysia to the A-League would be like adding a team from Ghana to the Premier League (the cultural differences are just as great, and- look it up -Accra is closer to London than Kuala Lumpur is to Sydney)

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melbourne_terrace wrote:
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That's not our problem if they can't host a professional league. Cut the rope.

Edited by wamackie: 7/2/2014 06:06:11 PM


Australia has fuck all population centres that are capable of hosting pro football, a strong team that could capture the Auckland market would do more for the league than just adding bulk regional sides or splintering markets like Sydney or Melbourne again just to add another side. Auckland and Wellington can provide Australian players extra opportunities just like Cardiff and Swansea teams in England and be regularly paid in a country that provides a stable economy and nearly identical culture to Australia.

Your anti NZ shite is bordering on xenophobic and is utterly boring as fuck.


And also pretty amusing when he called others xenophobic for not supporting the malaysia/indonesia idea

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Can someone with Twitter send a tweet to https://twitter.com/GeelongGalaxy to see if they intend on submitting an application to join the NPL in future, thanks.
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WaMackie wrote:
That's not our problem if they can't host a professional league. Cut the rope.

Edited by wamackie: 7/2/2014 06:06:11 PM


Australia has fuck all population centres that are capable of hosting pro football, a strong team that could capture the Auckland market would do more for the league than just adding bulk regional sides or splintering markets like Sydney or Melbourne again just to add another side. Auckland and Wellington can provide Australian players extra opportunities just like Cardiff and Swansea teams in England and be regularly paid in a country that provides a stable economy and nearly identical culture to Australia.

Your anti NZ shite is bordering on xenophobic and is utterly boring as fuck.

Viennese Vuck

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petszk wrote:
Seems to be an unusual amount of common sense being displayed on the forum this afternoon...


It's called difference of opinion champ.
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paladisious wrote:
WaMackie wrote:
walnuts wrote:
BrisbaneBhoy wrote:
Current 10 + a team based in the folllowing;
Canberra
Tasmania
Wollongong
Ipswich
North Queensland
Darwin
Auckland
Geelong

Along with a team or two from Indonesia, and a team or two from Malaysia.


I will never understand you people who wish for this to happen.


But an NZ based team or two is OK now is it? It ithat becuase NZ is Anglo? Underhanded racism at work here.

Probably more because Indonesia, Malaysia, etc already sustain their own pro leagues, unlike NZ.


Again, that's not Australia's problem anymore.
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paladisious wrote:
WaMackie wrote:
walnuts wrote:
BrisbaneBhoy wrote:
Current 10 + a team based in the folllowing;
Canberra
Tasmania
Wollongong
Ipswich
North Queensland
Darwin
Auckland
Geelong

Along with a team or two from Indonesia, and a team or two from Malaysia.


I will never understand you people who wish for this to happen.


But an NZ based team or two is OK now is it? It ithat becuase NZ is Anglo? Underhanded racism at work here.

Probably more because Indonesia, Malaysia, etc already sustain their own pro leagues, unlike NZ.


Seems to be an unusual amount of common sense being displayed on the forum this afternoon...


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WaMackie wrote:
walnuts wrote:
BrisbaneBhoy wrote:
Current 10 + a team based in the folllowing;
Canberra
Tasmania
Wollongong
Ipswich
North Queensland
Darwin
Auckland
Geelong

Along with a team or two from Indonesia, and a team or two from Malaysia.


I will never understand you people who wish for this to happen.


But an NZ based team or two is OK now is it? It ithat becuase NZ is Anglo? Underhanded racism at work here.

Probably more because Indonesia, Malaysia, etc already sustain their own pro leagues, unlike NZ.
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Gyfox wrote:
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Or maybe, just maybe, Malaysia with a population of nearly 30 million and Indonesia with a population of 10 times that should be able to host their own domestic leagues, whereas NZ *might* have the potential to support 2 professional clubs, but not an entire professional league.


Be gone with you! No one is allowed to talk sense on here. :)


Laughed out loud reading two nuff nuffs congratulating each other on speaking 'common sense'.
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petszk wrote:
WaMackie wrote:
walnuts wrote:
BrisbaneBhoy wrote:
Current 10 + a team based in the folllowing;
Canberra
Tasmania
Wollongong
Ipswich
North Queensland
Darwin
Auckland
Geelong

Along with a team or two from Indonesia, and a team or two from Malaysia.


I will never understand you people who wish for this to happen.


But an NZ based team or two is OK now is it? It ithat becuase NZ is Anglo? Underhanded racism at work here.






Or maybe, just maybe, Malaysia with a population of nearly 30 million and Indonesia with a population of 10 times that should be able to host their own domestic leagues, whereas NZ *might* have the potential to support 2 professional clubs, but not an entire professional league.


Be gone with you! No one is allowed to talk sense on here. :)
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That's not our problem if they can't host a professional league. Cut the rope.

Edited by wamackie: 7/2/2014 06:06:11 PM
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WaMackie wrote:
walnuts wrote:
BrisbaneBhoy wrote:
Current 10 + a team based in the folllowing;
Canberra
Tasmania
Wollongong
Ipswich
North Queensland
Darwin
Auckland
Geelong

Along with a team or two from Indonesia, and a team or two from Malaysia.


I will never understand you people who wish for this to happen.


But an NZ based team or two is OK now is it? It ithat becuase NZ is Anglo? Underhanded racism at work here.






Or maybe, just maybe, Malaysia with a population of nearly 30 million and Indonesia with a population of 10 times that should be able to host their own domestic leagues, whereas NZ *might* have the potential to support 2 professional clubs, but not an entire professional league.


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Rofl at the wanker suggesting teams in Singapore and Malaysia. End your life ASAP.


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imonfourfourtwo wrote:
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Is it right to assume there will be two divisions?


Potentially North-West and South-East with the top two from each, making it to the FFA Cup and playing off for the final. That being said many still want a straight league playing every club once.


Wouldn't that significantly lower the standard?


It would stretch the elite pool of players very thin most definitely. Have also been told this year may simply be one that decides who plays in what division next year with the top 16 going into div 1 and the bottom lot going into div 2. It's a messy, messy situation.


That makes a bit of sense and it is a way of sidelining the politics but it also looks a bit like face saving for FFV.
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Gyfox wrote:
imonfourfourtwo wrote:
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Is it right to assume there will be two divisions?


Potentially North-West and South-East with the top two from each, making it to the FFA Cup and playing off for the final. That being said many still want a straight league playing every club once.


Wouldn't that significantly lower the standard?


It would stretch the elite pool of players very thin most definitely. Have also been told this year may simply be one that decides who plays in what division next year with the top 16 going into div 1 and the bottom lot going into div 2. It's a messy, messy situation.
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imonfourfourtwo wrote:
Gyfox wrote:
Is it right to assume there will be two divisions?


Potentially North-West and South-East with the top two from each, making it to the FFA Cup and playing off for the final. That being said many still want a straight league playing every club once.


Wouldn't that significantly lower the standard?
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WaMackie wrote:
walnuts wrote:
BrisbaneBhoy wrote:
Current 10 + a team based in the folllowing;
Canberra
Tasmania
Wollongong
Ipswich
North Queensland
Darwin
Auckland
Geelong

Along with a team or two from Indonesia, and a team or two from Malaysia.


I will never understand you people who wish for this to happen.


But an NZ based team or two is OK now is it? It ithat becuase NZ is Anglo? Underhanded racism at work here.


.........

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Gyfox wrote:
Is it right to assume there will be two divisions?


Potentially North-West and South-East with the top two from each, making it to the FFA Cup and playing off for the final. That being said many still want a straight league playing every club once.
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walnuts wrote:
BrisbaneBhoy wrote:
Current 10 + a team based in the folllowing;
Canberra
Tasmania
Wollongong
Ipswich
North Queensland
Darwin
Auckland
Geelong

Along with a team or two from Indonesia, and a team or two from Malaysia.


I will never understand you people who wish for this to happen.


But an NZ based team or two is OK now is it? It ithat becuase NZ is Anglo? Underhanded racism at work here.
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