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GDeathe	GDeathe Posted 3 Years Ago #3026830
Pro Group: Forum Members Posts: 2.1K, Visits: 0	In terms of p&r the National Second-division League (NSL) and NPLs is far more important than ALM and NSL p&r because I think bar a few clubs being on a state level is big enough for them and would nope the fuck out of being included on a national stage like a QLD Lions or Gold Coast Knights so how do you make that situation work
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Heart_fan	Heart_fan Posted 3 Years Ago #3026838
World Class Group: Forum Members Posts: 8K, Visits: 0	P&R can work here but as always, it needs to be managed well. It is my understanding that Parachute payments and contract terms to account for these situations are undertaken in many leagues to help assist clubs that are relegated. It all comes down to having the right structures in place, and building the foundations correctly. i am looking forward to the NSD and see great value in getting it in place as soon as possible. Hopefully the right conversations are being undertaken now to achieve it sooner rather than later.
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df1982	df1982 Posted 3 Years Ago #3026843
Rising Star Group: Forum Members Posts: 861, Visits: 0	+x Butler99 - 18 May 2022 4:53 PM +x df1982 - 18 May 2022 6:15 AM +x Johns - 17 May 2022 6:59 PM P & R will never work in Australia. It would scare away the major stakeholders being the club owners - how would you put this to them ‘Thanks for financing your team over the years particularly through Covid but if your team finishes last - your out of the league and will be replaced by a state team that probably will have 500 fans’ It would have every owner running from the game and thus no A-League. This would bring about all the major sponsors leaving as well - they are not going to put money into the game where there are no major financial controls. There is also the issue after a few seasons of P & R Perth , Adelaide and Brisbane being relegated and replaced by teams from NSW & VIC thus becoming a South East League - as an example Which ever way you spin it entire cities/states will have no team… There's a simple way to avoid relegation: don't finish last. Or if you do, make sure your team's good enough that it can bounce back to the top flight the following season. As the A-League expands to 14 and then 16 teams P/R becomes more and more of a necessity. There are only going to be so many clubs who can genuinely make a title challenge. Halfway through the season most of the league already knows they're out of the running, and this will be even more the case when there are 14-16 teams. Relegation will actually give teams in the bottom half something to play for. And why would Perth or Brisbane be worse than the fourth or fifth best Sydney/Melbourne team. They have the population to support top flight clubs and would probably be able to avoid relegation when something is actually on the line. It's more the Central Coasts and Wellingtons (or expansion sides like Canberra, Wollongong, Gold Coast, etc.) who will be the most likely candidates for relegation. The league would easily be able to survive that. Is it a little hypocritical wanting traditional promotion/relegation and then also asking for modern "expansion" sides as opposed to promoted NPL clubs?? Do these expansion sides get a free ride into the NSD or do they start at the bottom of the pyramid in their state comps?? I think you expand the A-League to 16 teams over the next 2-4 years while the NSD beds down and also expands from 12 to 16 teams. Then you introduce P/R. Expansion slots should be reserved for regional areas though. I would particularly prioritise Canberra and Tasmania because they are presently lacking even a semi-pro club and it would basically be impossible for a team to be promoted from the ACT or TAS NPLs to a national-level league.
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TheDjentleman	TheDjentleman Posted 3 Years Ago #3026863
Hacker Group: Forum Members Posts: 362, Visits: 0	If in 20 years, the only teams in the the top flight are only melbourne and sydney based teams so be it. Honestly. My state or city has to work harder then with a different approach to climb up. Everybodys favourite lurker.
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Footballking55	Footballking55 Posted 3 Years Ago #3026867
Pro Group: Forum Members Posts: 3.2K, Visits: 0	We have lived without a Tasmanian team since the A League started. Its a misnomer to think that we MUST HAVE a WA or QLD team in it. Its nice to support the ROAR, but if they were relegated I would still watch A League games on TV.
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LFC.	LFC. Posted 3 Years Ago #3026903
Legend Group: Forum Members Posts: 13K, Visits: 0	+x soccerfoo - 21 May 2022 7:41 PM +x libelous - 21 May 2022 6:23 PM With the ALM moving to a 14 team competition next season and the NSD commencing with 10 teams, alignment of the pyramid can commence. A couple of seasons running in parallel will clarify the way forward for promotion/ relegation. Football fans can look forward to very exciting times for our game. Galatas said on a recent pod that the FA will select the teams for the NSD next season and it will come in the following season. APL will not usher in two teams during this offseason. No way, not even one. Where are the official expressions of interest and the candidates to start with? NSD in a number of articles from JJ and others have quoted for '23. Have no care what the APL does. Where's that podcast you mention ? post it up. https://www.espn.com.au/football/australian-a-league-men/story/4521449/fa-ceo-james-johnson-outlines-the-roadmap-to-promotion-and-relegation-in-australia Love Football Edited 3 Years Ago by LFC.
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Monoethnic Social Club	Monoethnic Social Club Posted 3 Years Ago #3026920
Legend Group: Forum Members Posts: 11K, Visits: 0	+x LFC. - 23 May 2022 12:38 PM +x soccerfoo - 21 May 2022 7:41 PM +x libelous - 21 May 2022 6:23 PM With the ALM moving to a 14 team competition next season and the NSD commencing with 10 teams, alignment of the pyramid can commence. A couple of seasons running in parallel will clarify the way forward for promotion/ relegation. Football fans can look forward to very exciting times for our game. Galatas said on a recent pod that the FA will select the teams for the NSD next season and it will come in the following season. APL will not usher in two teams during this offseason. No way, not even one. Where are the official expressions of interest and the candidates to start with? NSD in a number of articles from JJ and others have quoted for '23. Have no care what the APL does. Where's that podcast you mention ? post it up. https://www.espn.com.au/football/australian-a-league-men/story/4521449/fa-ceo-james-johnson-outlines-the-roadmap-to-promotion-and-relegation-in-australia The "theory" I heard from a well meaning fan at Olympic Village yesterday is that an announcement is going to be made the Monday AFTER the Aleague grand final whenever that is.... next week, the week after?
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someguyjc	someguyjc Posted 3 Years Ago #3026923
Pro Group: Forum Members Posts: 4.1K, Visits: 0	+x Monoethnic Social Club - 23 May 2022 2:54 PM +x LFC. - 23 May 2022 12:38 PM +x soccerfoo - 21 May 2022 7:41 PM +x libelous - 21 May 2022 6:23 PM With the ALM moving to a 14 team competition next season and the NSD commencing with 10 teams, alignment of the pyramid can commence. A couple of seasons running in parallel will clarify the way forward for promotion/ relegation. Football fans can look forward to very exciting times for our game. Galatas said on a recent pod that the FA will select the teams for the NSD next season and it will come in the following season. APL will not usher in two teams during this offseason. No way, not even one. Where are the official expressions of interest and the candidates to start with? NSD in a number of articles from JJ and others have quoted for '23. Have no care what the APL does. Where's that podcast you mention ? post it up. https://www.espn.com.au/football/australian-a-league-men/story/4521449/fa-ceo-james-johnson-outlines-the-roadmap-to-promotion-and-relegation-in-australia The "theory" I heard from a well meaning fan at Olympic Village yesterday is that an announcement is going to be made the Monday AFTER the Aleague grand final whenever that is.... next week, the week after? GF is next Saturday @ 7:45pm. A proper announcement about the NSD would be fantastic next week. It gives us A-League fans something else to talk about during the off season. With the current NPL season well underway, It should give the NPL a bit of a boost and could get some dormant NSL era supporters interested again. Especially at those bigger clubs that are most likely going to be part of the NSD.
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LFC.	LFC. Posted 3 Years Ago #3026925
Legend Group: Forum Members Posts: 13K, Visits: 0	touch wood we get the news in that case after the coming GF. Love Football
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Monoethnic Social Club	Monoethnic Social Club Posted 3 Years Ago #3026926
Legend Group: Forum Members Posts: 11K, Visits: 0	+x someguyjc - 23 May 2022 3:32 PM +x Monoethnic Social Club - 23 May 2022 2:54 PM +x LFC. - 23 May 2022 12:38 PM +x soccerfoo - 21 May 2022 7:41 PM +x libelous - 21 May 2022 6:23 PM With the ALM moving to a 14 team competition next season and the NSD commencing with 10 teams, alignment of the pyramid can commence. A couple of seasons running in parallel will clarify the way forward for promotion/ relegation. Football fans can look forward to very exciting times for our game. Galatas said on a recent pod that the FA will select the teams for the NSD next season and it will come in the following season. APL will not usher in two teams during this offseason. No way, not even one. Where are the official expressions of interest and the candidates to start with? NSD in a number of articles from JJ and others have quoted for '23. Have no care what the APL does. Where's that podcast you mention ? post it up. https://www.espn.com.au/football/australian-a-league-men/story/4521449/fa-ceo-james-johnson-outlines-the-roadmap-to-promotion-and-relegation-in-australia The "theory" I heard from a well meaning fan at Olympic Village yesterday is that an announcement is going to be made the Monday AFTER the Aleague grand final whenever that is.... next week, the week after? GF is next Saturday @ 7:45pm. A proper announcement about the NSD would be fantastic next week. It gives us A-League fans something else to talk about during the off season. With the current NPL season well underway, It should give the NPL a bit of a boost and could get some dormant NSL era supporters interested again. Especially at those bigger clubs that are most likely going to be part of the NSD. Damn straight it will :) Keeping my powder well and truly dry on this though.... Lets see what happens.... if anything?
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