Polemides with the hate-speech again.

As for the Australians? Please... Get over yourselves, the boats aren't destroying Australia. What a load of shite.

Even the one that brought you here? ;)

I came here with a backpack, you came here in ball and chain...

No seriously, all my grandparents were Irish migrants to London. It's always been a multicultural place but that amount of change in demographics in that space of time will create problems anywhere.

British Palestine comes to mind. I think immigration needs to be slow and steady and get over yourself;)

That's right, blame me for the empire. It's not been done before.

Who do you think you are? Darth Vader?

Polemides with the hate-speech again.

Jihad on Dogs

BNI has reported on the shocking rise in pet dog poisonings near Muslim areas of Europe and in Muslim-majority countries. Now, Muslim hatred of dogs has become violent, with several attacks on people walking their dogs in Spanish parks. When police arrive to help, they are attacked by Muslims, too.

AlertaDigital reports that incidents of Muslim attacks on Spaniards is increasing, particularly in Catalonia and other parts of northeast Spain, where illegal Islamist immigration is reaching alarming levels. The Muslims are taking over previously tolerant and Westernized areas of Spain, even imposing their morality on the indigenous Spanish population.

The name Tarrasa should be familiar to those tracking the re-Mohammedanisation of Spain. It was there that parents recently wrote a public letter complaining their children were not allowed to eat ham sandwiches by their Muslim classmates. An imam in a local mosque famously told his flock to beat their disobedient wives. Now the Islamic sickness is spreading further. Spaniards are being harassed and beaten up for walking their dogs.

In a recent incident a 27-year-old man taking three dogs for a walk along with his 49-year-old mother was attacked by a mob of 25-30 Muslims from North Africa. ”We were there with the dogs and suddenly loads of Muslims appeared. They hit my son a lot and they shook me”. The police were called but the Muslims attacked them too and reinforcements had to be called in. Eventually, the police managed to get the family into a doorway and were able to protect them there.

“On Saturday night two Muslims [female] hit my niece. They attacked her because they want this plaza for themselves”. “They said daughter of a whore, bitch to her,” she adds because she was walking with an “impure animal”.

“There was a Muslim with a djellaba taking photos of the dogs and one of those who hit my niece”. “In an instant they touched us with the elbow and started ‘I’m going to kill this dog, it and the whole family, this plaza is ours’”.

“Then they appeared from all sides, the square filled with Muslims. They say the dog attacked them but the dogs didn’t attack anyone”, she insisted. “If they want – she added- let them show a jaw mark”.

“I’ll kill your dog, I’ll kill your dog, the dog and the whole family”, they were shouting. “All of them were punching and kicking us”, she adds. “They were choking my son, all of this is scratched, the arms, legs”. “And they were shaking me from all sides. On Monday it was if my skin was burnt”.

The outcome of this brawl resulted in two officers injured and four (Muslims) detained. The attacked family turned to Alerta Digital to express their fear of reprisals from the Muslims. Even during the brawl, the Muslims threatened them with cutting their necks, all this in the presence of the officers, who were just looking numbly.

http://www.barenakedislam.com/2012/08/06/apparently-poisoning-dogs-in-spain-isnt-enough-now-muslims-are-attacking-people-walking-their-dogs/

That's right, blame me for the empire. It's not been done before.

Awww, poor you..

For the record, I'm not the one patrolling the streets threatening people.

"Coming to a street near you soon", champ, it's in a majority muslim district in London. It's not "Coming to a street near you soon".

Take your bigotry some place else.

heh Classic... trying to take the moral high ground and intimidate me into quiet submission...[-x

Geert Wilders Australia Tour 2013

Controversial rightwing anti-Islamic Dutch politician Geert Wilders says Australia has nothing to fear from him when he visits the country starting next week.

Mr Wilders, speaking on the ABC's Lateline on Wednesday, said he was on a global jihad to preserve freedom.

He said he wants to warn Australia against allowing the mass immigration of people from Muslim countries "because Islam and freedom are incompatible".

"I believe with mass immigration into our free societies, those societies will change, and they will change for the worse," Mr Wilders said.

The leader of the Party for Freedom holds the balance of power in the Dutch parliament after receiving around 10 per cent of the national vote.

He wants to tell Australians that we must learn from the mistakes they made in Europe and be vigilant of Islam.

"It is not a religion of peace - it is a totalitarian ideology," Mr Wilders said.

He conceded that the majority of Muslims living in Europe were moderates but their religion of Islam was totalitarian that has no room for anything but Islam.

Mr Wilders said that when he visits Australia next week he not only wanted to talk to people who agreed with him but to those who did not.

"I am a lawmaker not a law breaker," he said.

When asked if he would be accompanied by Dutch Security Service he said that he could not talk about security arrangements or he would make himself more vulnerable.

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http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1736816/Nothing-to-fear-from-me-says-Geert-Wilders

Discrimination
No form of discrimination is allowed on these forums. That means Racism, Sexism, Bigotry, et al.

Wth are you talking about, I was talking about the large number of Jews going to Palestine under the British mandate lol.

How is being critical of political-Islamism bigotry?

This is politics, and it's very relevant, to all of us.

Nobody is being discriminated against here.

You do not know me - and for your information, I'm a person of love, tolerance and free speech.

I love Arabs, especially my Egyptian Coptic and Syrian Antiochian Orthodox friends, who have suffered so harshly under real bigoted, discriminatory and brutally violent regimes and political ideaologies.

I'm so opposed to real bigotry, I will take this opportunity to plug http://www.rescuechristians.org/ an organisation established to help rescue the Christians of the middle east suffering terrible persecution and martyrdom. Please offer your support.

I am English blood, it wasn't to take aim at you, Britain or anything else.

I'm sorry, you stand against a politically Islamic state and then support political Christianity and "Christian values." Not only that but nowhere does Geert Wilders promote secularism, he stands against Islam full stop. The whole thing. If he wanted secularism, he'd say it. I can't see that anywhere.

All I got out of that documentary is that the vast majority of Muslims in the UK can't believe the gall of the "Muslim Patrols" and reject them outright. Even the dude that was pro-Shariah was against forcing that will onto others.

Then there was the racist cunt that started off with "Islam is not a race, I can say what I want" and then went to "EVEN WHITE LIBERAL PEOPLE ARE ATTACKING ME FOR MY OPINIONS, OH THE HUGE MANATEE".

So... I don't understand the point of this thread. Other than Spiderman.

The irony of this coming from someone who has a history of wishing death on other forumites

Chin up pal, HIV is no longer the sentence it once was.

More quality contributions from the left

How is being critical of political-Islamism bigotry?

This is politics, and it's very relevant, to all of us.

Nobody is being discriminated against here.

You do not know me - and for your information, I'm a person of love, tolerance and free speech.

I love Arabs, especially my Egyptian Coptic and Syrian Antiochian Orthodox friends, who have suffered so harshly under real bigoted, discriminatory and brutally violent regimes and political ideaologies.

I'm so opposed to real bigotry, I will take this opportunity to plug http://www.rescuechristians.org/ an organisation established to help rescue the Christians of the middle east suffering terrible persecution and martyrdom. Please offer your support.

I was actually a little concerned the last couple of idiotic threads he had started had nothing about Islam, I was thinking he had given up on the idea. As soon as I saw the thread title I just assumed it was him.

Any stupid Arab cunt that threatens the western way of life should get deported.

England has gone downhill big time. Their own fault though.

Any stupid Arab cunt that threatens the western way of life should get deported.

England has gone downhill big time. Their own fault though.

What if they were born in that country?

send them to tassie........

Edited by neillucas: 25/2/2013 03:08:50 PM

Polemides with the hate-speech again.

Religion should be whipped out.

You are your own god. /thread

out of curiosity - how many of polemides' 170 posts are about football? and how many of viper's are about football?

why are they on a football forum, yet seemingly post sfa about football?

also, what forums do they troll in england/usa/etc with the same bs?

Start a utopia on a island where radical Islamists and lefties can live in Harmony and not have to worry about things like National security, taxes and working

There goes paulc :lol:

-PB

Yeah because "lefties" and radical Islamists are really similar.

I know you were. Hence the response. Jesus, it's not hard to figure out but I guess you have to be English to understand where I'm coming from. Just about anyone with a British passport gets blamed for slavery, colonisation, war and all that nasty empire stuff. Even my best mate's mum did! It's sad because the result is a lot of guilt in the UK, the word "empire" is a naughty word even in education, nobody is allowed to learn about it. Jeremy Paxman in a popular documentary said we should just take the empire for what it was, the good and the bad. I know it can seem a bit far-fetched in Australia but it is actually an issue in the UK.

Anyway, thought I'd give a bit of background if you were confused.

Geert Wilders is a racist and a bigot. Any discussion on Australian immigration pales into insignificance when you're talking about London. In London, we're talking about a massive demographic shift. In Australia, it's simply outright intolerance.

Edited by KenGooner_GCU: 22/2/2013 09:42:11 PM

Lefties in Australia are more like crowd pleasing hippies that are afraid of hurting anyones feelings that want to start a revolution and get their name up in lights. If they were more focused there ideas could be seen as credible.

Are you kidding? How can you justify fears of a demographic shift in London and then declare similar fears in Australia as intolerant? Ever thought some Australians are fearful that we inevitably face a demographic change ourselves in the next few decades?

I'm not justifying such sentiments, in fact I find it abhorrent, just pointing out that your post reeks of hypocrisy.

Just watched it, not sure I see any hate speech in Pole's post. Did you watch the clip?

We've spent 200 years getting religion out of our necks in the West and now it's being pushed back upon us with complete docile acquiescence from people like you.

The same people who (rightly) tell Fred Nile where to go.

Noone wants to pick this up?

The debate now seems to have turned to whether we have the right to debate this. Ridiculous, moral cowardice at its worst.

Noone wants to pick this up?

The debate now seems to have turned to whether we have the right to debate this. Ridiculous, moral cowardice at its worst.

Asians and Indians will one day be the majority race in every Australian city. That's just something our western culture will have to deal with

Edited by trueanglo: 22/2/2013 08:22:57 PM

I thought you supported religious expression?
Regardless I believe that even evolution applies to ideology and eventually the weak ideas will be weeded out

Asians and Indians will one day be the majority race in every Australian city. That's just something our western culture will have to deal with

I like Indian people, they're a very tolerant and open minded group as a whole.

What if they were born in that country?

Jail them for life.

What's the charge?

Interesting point. As a general statement you're right, although weak/unsuitable ideology is often "weeded out" by force. Fascism didn;t weed itself out while communism still needed the help of Reagan and Thatcher before it well and truly carked it.

In terms of religion, time allowed Christianity to cease exerting major influence over the western world that it used to. It did evolve to the point where Enlightenment was allowed to take place, and the West came out the other side a secular society with pretty much every educated person believing in the separation of Church and State. Very few on this forum would not argue that this separation is a good thing.

Islam OTOH is on a different timeline. It is a younger religion that achieved its goals of self-promotion via conquest (they're not alone there of course). That's just history, noone needs to be afraid of saying it. And religion plays a far more pronounced role in Muslim societies, even the non-funamentalist-run ones.

Now - while Muslims remained in Muslim countries the clash between our secular values and their religious ones remained minimal. Muslim immigration has changed that, challenging our society to ask ourselves the question - do we keep our secular values as a society or do we go down the track of eroding these secular values?

I am against public drunkenness too but I'll be damned if I'll allow some religious nut to walk around the streets telling people to behave themselves because it suits his religious ideology. I'm not a fan of prostitution either but as in the case of drugs, prohibition is not the answer. Only dialogue, debate, discussion, acceptance and education are the answers to complex social questions.

Generally speaking if anyone tells you they have all the answers if you just follow their little book of ideologies I suggest you run a mile. However, if this were to happen in our country we have nowhere to run. People who go around preaching social behaviour norms to suit their narrow religious views need to go screw themselves. And we need to ensure noone erodes our secular values.

As for religious expression, I am all in favour so long as they don't preach at the rest of us. Western Christianity has by and large come to terms with this (apart from some nutty and even dangerous pockets in the US) and on that basis they are welcome to preach to their own converted. But don't stick any religion down my throat.

But we must not be afraid to debate this.

If my time at crown taught me anything, it's that this statement is bollocks.

Imagine how advanced Islam would be if the Mongols didn't sack Baghdad. At the time it was the scientific capital of the world.

I think you lost all hope on humanity some time ago.

Yep.

Fucking Mongs :lol: [-(

-PB

Four men have been found guilty of assault for whipping a Muslim convert as punishment under sharia law for drinking alcohol and taking drugs.

It is the first time a case like this has come before the Australian courts.

Four men broke into Christian Martinez's Silverwater unit in Sydney's west in 2011 and whipped him 50 times with an electrical cord in the name of religious law.

Mr Martinez was a recent convert to Islam.

The day before the attack he had drunk alcohol and taken drugs and had called his religious mentor, Wassam Faayad, to tell him.

Fayed then carried out the whipping on Mr Martinez as punishment under sharia law while the three others held him down.

During the attack Mr Martinez asked for it to stop.

All four men have been found guilty of assault occasioning actual bodily harm in company.

They will be sentenced at a later date.

Four found guilty over sharia law whipping



http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-02-28/four-men-found-guilty-over-sharia-whipping/4545010

Lets hope they are charged, imprisoned and punished heavily with a sentence demonstrating that this kind of behavior is not tolerated in this country.

If people want Sharia law, Australia is not the place for it.

A 15-year-old girl, who was allegedly raped by her step-father, has been sentenced by a court in the Maldives to 100 lashes for having pre-marital sex with another man.
Police in the strict Islamic country had been investigating allegations the girl had been abused by her stepfather for years when they uncovered new evidence.
The girl and her step-father were first arrested after the body of a baby she had given birth to was found buried outside their house on Feydhoo in June 2012.


Her stepfather, who had reportedly been abusing the girl for years, is reportedly facing 25 years in prison for the rape and allegedly killing a baby conceived from it.
He has been charged with sexually abusing a minor, possessing pornography, and murder, while her mother has been charged with concealing a crime and murder.


The girl later admitted to police that she had had consensual sex with another man.It is not known whether he will face charges.
Court officials have said the flogging, will be carried out once the girl turns 18. Until that time she will be under house arrest.
The Maldivian government has reportedly urged the court to show leniency describing the girl as having been 'traumatised' by the rape.
Amnesty International described the charges against he girl as 'outrageous'.
A spokesman said: 'Victims of rape or other forms of sexual abuse should be given counselling and support – not charged with a crime.
'Flogging is a violation of the absolute prohibition on torture and other cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment or punishment.
'The Maldivian authorities should immediately end its use regardless of circumstances. The fact that this time a 15-year old girl who has suffered terribly is at risk makes it all the more reprehensible'.
'Flogging is not only wrong and humiliating, but can lead to long-term psychological as well as physical scars.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2285332/Rape-victim-15-sentenced-100-lashes-Maldives-engaging-pre-marital-sex.html#ixzz2M9o6yeSo
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I see this will now be the anti-islam thread.

FTFY

Can the mods lock it, lest this whole website be portrayed as complete bigots?

FTFY

Can the mods lock it, lest this whole website be portrayed as complete bigots?

I love this post. This is why islamaphobia is the way it is.

Remember kids, it's not bigotry if muslims are involved. Then it's totally correct and deserved.

Didn't Ugandans pass a law condemning gays to death in the name of Christian law? Something I heard, don't quote me on that but the point still stands. People who are condemning Islamists for wanting Sharia law should also be condemning Christian lobby groups. The law cannot step in on either occasion. What it can do though, is impose the law it has already and that is why these whippings will be punished by law irrespective of religion.

What really ballsed up science in the Islamic world was this idea that scripture was sacred and therefore the printing press was "unislamic".

Bigot is thrown around too easily these days.

I think you're right. Its a problem with RADICAL religionists and the societies that allow them to multiply.

GENERAL NOTE: NOTE THE BOLD BEFORE SOMEONE HAS A CRY AT ME ATTACKING RELIGION AND CALLS ME A BIGOT :roll:

Edited by benelsmore: 28/2/2013 04:36:05 PM

It's probably due to its prolificy from people making sweeping generalisations about things they have no understanding of.