Bayley admitted to raping and strangling Jill Meagher
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Words: Mark Russell

Adrian Bayley grabbed Jill Meagher just eight minutes after she had left a bar to walk home, a court has heard today.

Mr Bayley dragged Ms Meagher into a nearby laneway and raped and strangled her, the Melbourne Magistrates Court was told.

And Mr Bayley admitted to killing the ABC staffer before burying her body on a roadside, the court heard.

Prosecutor Gavin Silbert, SC, said Ms Meagher had left Bar Etiquette in Sydney Road, Brunswick, at 1.30am on Saturday, September 22, last year to walk the short distance to her home.

Mr Silbert said Mr Bayley accosted Ms Meagher, 29, at 1.38am and dragged her into a laneway in Hope Street and raped and strangled her.

The prosecutor said Mr Bayley left Ms Meagher's body in the laneway and went back to his home in Coburg.

Mr Bayley allegedly returned to the laneway at 4.22am in his white Holden Astra after picking up a shovel.

Mr Silbert said Mr Bayley put Ms Meagher's body in the boot of his car and drove off four minutes later.

Mr Bayley drove to Gisborne South and buried Ms Meagher's body by the side of a road, the prosecutor said.

Mr Silbert said Mr Bayley later took part in a lengthy interview with homicide detectives from 3.58pm on September 27.

The interview ended at 1.54am the next day after Mr Bayley allegedly made admissions to raping and strangling Ms Meagher.

The prosecutor said Mr Bayley later directed homicide detectives to where Ms Meagher had been buried.

Mr Bayley was initially charged with one count of murder and one count of rape.

Mr Silbert said Mr Bayley was later charged on January 14 with two further counts of rape.

Mr Bayley, 41, who had been brought into the secure courtroom at 9.43am flanked by three security guards, bowed his head as Mr Silbert read out a brief prosecution summary of the allegations against him.

Ms Meagher's husband, Tom, her parents, George and Edith McKeon, and brother, Michael, were in court for the first day of the contested committal hearing before deputy chief magistrate Felicity Broughton.

Twelve seats were reserved in the courtroom for Ms Meagher's family as well as homicide detectives and other supporters.

Mr Bayley's legal aid defence barrister Helen Spowart had unsuccessfully argued last week that the hearing should be delayed to give independent experts time to analyse Mr Bayley’s DNA sample and damaged clothing relevant to the case.

In opposing the application to have the hearing delayed, Mr Silbert said only six witnesses were to be called at the hearing and that both police forensic scientists who had analysed Mr Bayley’s DNA sample and the clothing would be available to be cross-examined if required tomorrow.

Zixue (Sophia) Qiu, whose bedroom window overlooked the laneway in Hope Street, said she heard a woman's voice say ‘‘get out of there’’ a number of times just after 1.40am on September 22 last year.

Ms Qiu said she did not hear any other voices or any screaming or yelling.

Asked by Ms Spoward why she thought the woman was drunk, Ms Qiu said: ''From the sound. The voice is not clear. It is like a prolonged kind of voice.''

Ms Qiu said she talked to her husband, Xuxiang He, about what they had heard and they joked about how she might have been having sex.

The hearing continues.

Stories like this are chilling. I don't want to turn this into a pro-execution thread but in cases of rape, people should be executed for such a heinous crime.

Why?

Do you understand the effects of being in a confined space for 23 hours a day? It would be torture.

I don't think you CAN rehabilitate a rapist.

Not my problem.

My point is that if you violate another persons rights and person to that extent against their wishes, your organs would be better off keeping alive someone who isn't a waste of air.

I do not believe there is any merit to keeping them alive or "rehabilitating" rapists.

I agree. I'm sure you'd find many galss half full people who would say anyone can change including some people in a position of influence.

Rape is a completely different kettle of fish. It's something that's exclusively done in cold blood.

Rape + Murder should = death penalty.

That simple. Put a bullet in him, throw him in a block of concrete, don't care, just get rid of evil subhumans like this guy.

I don't understand people like this.

So, you're going to basically became as worse as him, and kill him?

I don't understand people like this.

So, you're going to basically became as worse as him, and kill him?

People like this are the reason we should have the death penalty.

Are you willing to accept the fact that an innocent person will eventually be executed? Perhaps even you...?

I didn't know where to put this so I am putting it here. If it's affecting your OCD JoFFA, move it or lock it.

If thats what it takes. This guy has confessed, he's earnt it.

I find myself agreeing to some part with TSF and Fulhamkid. I'm worried.

Though, having said that. They very rarely change, the ones who change are few and far between. Even though it'll be worse to let them rot in prison, maybe it'll be better on tax-payers money to just put a bullet between there eyes, as crude as that sounds. I don't want to be paying for a rapist or murderer to be fed each day unless they legitimately redeem themselves.

Edited by AJohn: 12/3/2013 03:56:26 PM

I don't think you CAN rehabilitate a rapist.

As worse as him? He murdered and raped an innocent woman.

The human race distresses me at times. How anyone can be capable of this is beyond me.

Have a read of this for a glimpse into how fucking terrifying it is to be a women in today's society.

Statistically, if you have an average sized family, one of the males in your extended family is likely to have raped or sexually assaulted a woman or women in some manner. It is disgusting. A female friend of mine once asked me whether, as a single man, I found it upsetting that I can't approach a woman without that underlying layer of distrust and I said no, it upsets me that we live in a world where that distrust needs to exist.

(Apologies if the link doesn't work- the actual site is filtered at my work and I had to type it from my phone. Google kate harding and schrodinger's rapist if it doesn't)

For the record, I will never support the death penalty either. The legal system will never be 100% correct and I have moral objections to putting peoples lives in the hands of a fallible system.

HI THERE. YOU SEEM TO BE LOST.

It looks like nothing was found at this location. Perhaps it was there but now it’s gone. Maybe try one of the links below or a search?

I got this:

Rape + Murder should = death penalty.

That simple. Put a bullet in him, throw him in a block of concrete, don't care, just get rid of evil subhumans like this guy.

Have a read of this for a glimpse into how fucking terrifying it is to be a women in today's society.

Just imagine how fucking terrifying it is to be a person who lives in Western Sydney in a suburb filled with Muslims!

Let me start out by assuring you that I understand you are a good sort of Muslim. You are kind to children and animals. You respect the elderly. You donate to charity. You tell jokes without laughing at your own punchlines. You respect non-Muslims. You like non-Muslims. In fact, you would really like to have a mutually respectful friendship with a non-Muslim. Unfortunately, you don’t yet know that person—they aren't working with you, nor have you been introduced through mutual friends or drawn to the same activities.

Now, you want to become acquainted with a non-Muslim you see in public. The first thing you need to understand is that non-Muslims are dealing with a set of challenges and concerns that are strange to you, a Muslim. To begin with, we would rather not be killed, blown up in a suicide bombing or kidnapped to be used in an anti-Western video and decapitated.

So when you, a stranger, approach me, I have to ask myself: Will this person kidnap me and decapitate me? Will they reach into their shirt and explode a bomb?

When you approach me in public, you are Schrödinger’s Muslim. You may or may not be a Muslim who would commit murder or be a suicide bomber. I won’t know for sure unless you start killing people or you blow up. I can’t see inside your head, and I don’t know your intentions. If you expect me to trust you—to accept you at face value as a nice sort of Muslim—you are not only failing to respect my reasonable caution, you are being cavalier about my personal safety.

You must be aware of what signals you are sending by your appearance and the environment. We are going to be paying close attention to your appearance and behavior and matching those signs to our idea of a threat.

This means that some Muslims should never approach strange people in public. Specifically, if you wear a hijab or burqa or if you are a prophet of Islam, you are just never going to get a good response approaching a non-Muslim cold. That doesn’t mean you’re doomed to a life of solitude with other Muslims, but I suggest you start with internet forums, where you can put your unusual traits out there and find a non-Muslim who will appreciate them.

Pay attention to the environment. Look around. Are you in a crowed marketplace? Then probably you ought not approach a non-Muslim and try to strike up a conversation. The same applies if you are alone with a non-Muslim in most public places. If the public place is a closed area (a subway car, an elevator, a bus), even a crowded one, you may not realize that the non-Muslim’s ability to flee in case you decide to try and take hostages or pull out an AK-47 is limited.

That's a garbage post filled with extreme feminist bullshit. Here is how that blog looks like when you replace it with certain other groups.

With respect, you are not only conflating Muslim with terrorist in your response but your labeling it as 'feminist bullshit' paints you in the same colours as the MRA groups. Even if you took the time to re-write that blog correctly to represent an anti-Muslim view it would be disregarding the statistical problem of sexual assault.

1 in 6 non-Muslims are not killed by terrorists. 1 in 6 women in the US are sexually assaulted by men. It is a very real fear and by belittling it you are as good as enabling it.

Have a read of this for a glimpse into how fucking terrifying it is to be a women in today's society.

Tried the Google search I suggested? Can't do much at work, limited internet and all.

I'm calling it as I see it.

If Muslim's isn't 'statistically correct' to the rest of the post, how about I change it to "Young Black Males" and make it about them stabbing, assaulting, shooting or simply just being robbers? Then the US statistics would make it equivalent to the "1 in 6 Women are raped." Statistic.

I don't care about the MRA vs Feminist shit, because pretty much all it achieves these days is wasting internet space and complaining about guys wearing Fedoras.

Edited by macktheknife: 12/3/2013 07:36:09 PM

If thats what it takes. This guy has confessed, he's earnt it.

I don't understand people like this.

So, you're going to basically became as worse as him, and kill him?

Actually for rapists, fuck the death pen. Castrate the fuckers instead.

For those calling for a death penalty on rape, could you please give a detailed comment about what conditions would warrant a death penalty? Is it direct punishment for the crime against the victim? Because they can't be rehabilitated and it will prevent future crimes? To act as a deterrent against other possible rapists? A mix of some or all or other factors?

For those calling for a death penalty on rape, could you please give a detailed comment about what conditions would warrant a death penalty? Is it direct punishment for the crime against the victim? Because they can't be rehabilitated and it will prevent future crimes? To act as a deterrent against other possible rapists? A mix of some or all or other factors?

Going to prison for life (especially as a rapist) is a far, far worse punishment than death. Why let him get off so lightly?

The guy has tried to off himself already, he said in court today that he wishes Victoria had the death penalty. He wants to die and why wouldnt he? Thats too good for him.

The risk of executing an innocent person is too high to bring back the death penalty. I cant believe people would be willing to risk that just to get revenge on someone. Pretty uncivilised.

Huge waste of Tax $. Fuck those guys i'd rather money be spent on hospitals, roads and infrastructure.

The death penalty is an uncivilized way of getting rid of uncivilized people :)

Going through the legal processes of making sure someone is 100% guilty being convicted to the death penalty, is more expensive than life in prison

Stories like this are chilling. I don't want to turn this into a pro-execution thread but in cases of rape, people should be executed for such a heinous crime.

100% guilty is also a joke. There will always be doubts and inconsistencies. People are too concerned with absolutes these days.

Sorry, but this is someone's life we're talking about here. Just because you can live with the fact that an innocent man might be murdered doesn't mean we all can.

This is the problem. The court system is a fucking joke. A guy that works for the GF's dad got caught on video stomping on some poor buggers head with another bloke. 8 months later and he still isn't in prison.

100% guilty is also a joke. There will always be doubts and inconsistencies. People are too concerned with absolutes these days.

Going through the legal processes of making sure someone is 100% guilty being convicted to the death penalty, is more expensive than life in prison

No it's not. Each prisoner costs Victorian taxpayers around 90k/year to house in our prison system. If they're sentenced for life and spend 30 years inside that's a cost to the state of $2.7m.

It's estimated that the average death penalty case in the US costs around $2.3m (USD).

California has spent more than $4 billion on capital punishment since it was reinstated in 1978 (about $308 million for each of the 13 executions carried out)

Extra defense costs for capital cases in trial phase $13,180,385
Extra payments to jurors $224,640
Capital post-conviction costs $7,473,556
Resentencing hearings $594,216
Prison system $169,617
Total $21,642,414

The most comprehensive death penalty study in the country found that the death penalty costs North Carolina $2.16 million more per execution than the a non-death penalty murder case with a sentence of life imprisonment

I have no idea where you got 2.3m but ive found 308m from California.

Also in california, the average death penalty case takes 25 years to execute the person anyway so you end up paying for life in prison anyway on top of other expenses.


http://www.deathpenalty.org/article.php?id=42

This was the extra cost for North Carolina in death penalty cases for the last 2 years





http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty

I have no idea where you got 2.3m but ive found 308m from California.

Also in california, the average death penalty case takes 25 years to execute the person anyway so you end up paying for life in prison anyway on top of other expenses.


http://www.deathpenalty.org/article.php?id=42

This was the extra cost for North Carolina in death penalty cases for the last 2 years





http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty

Obviously there are flaws in the US death row system. 25 years in the system is absurd. My figures came from the state of Texas according to 2009 reports.

These figures also fail to take into account the additional cost for re-offenders going to further trials for repeat offences.

See Casey Anthony, after she was found "not guilty" the speculation from the media was that the prosecutors were asking for too much when their case was purely based on circumstantial evidence.

The death penalty lets these people off lightly. Make him suffer.

Rape is a completely different kettle of fish. It's something that's exclusively done in cold blood.

Casey Anthony is immaterial to the situation. She wasn't a rapist. And inadequate prosecution is not symptomatic of a faulty system.

Obviously there would have to be a legal differentiation between heat of the moment rape and cold-hearted hunting a woman down like in this instance.

There is commentary by legal academics in America on that regard and on the proper use of the death penalty to dramatically decrease the chance of sentencing an innocent person to death.