They are unlikely to bring in the player points system immediately, if they do it will be chaos... As you say, State 2 players would find themselves in the NPL, with VPL standard players relegated to State 1 - and transfers to NPL clubs incurring points penalties...

Your Fijian mate doesn't have too much to worry about - his chances in the NPL would be slim, but there will still be plenty of opportunities for him at State 1 level.

Keep Oakliegh in.

They have organised community split with juniors and are sourcing coaches for juniors.

So looks as if the FFV have got the minimum 8 clubs they need to go ahead, Im still not sure about this from a club point of view the clubs look like they will suffer, but how about from a player point of view? Say for example myself a 21 year old currently playing state 2 would playing in NPLV club next year help me in any way? And what of my house mate a 25 year old fijian international who recently just got here, supposedly there is a limit as to how many foreigners a club may have and they carry more points or something? So the chances of him getting piked up by a club a thin

Edited by apillay12: 29/5/2013 12:02:27 AM

Take out Oakleigh and include
Werribee
Whittlesea Rangers

South Melbourne
Oakliegh
Bentliegh Greens
Geelong Galaxy
Surf Coast
Ballarat Red Devils
Bulleen Lions

Probably most clubs will put in an EOI to see what comes of the submission stage.

Does anyone know how many clubs have said 100% there interested in going ahead? So far I can only think of South Melbounre, Greater Geelong, Ballarat Red Devils, Surf Coast

Heard rumours that Bullen may apply and also hearing Hoppers Crossing may be interetsted, does anyone know of any clubs that have expressed interest?

You know whats going on too!!!:-$ Its ment to be a secret still.:oops:

http://www.footballfedvic.com.au/fileadmin/user_upload/Competitions/NCR/NCR_Presentation_FFV_July_2012.pdf

The highlighted blue parts are FFV requirements Red is FFA.

Tards :roll:

Can i ask because i have never got a clear answer on this, What are the differences between FFV's NPL Model and the other states that is getting clubs and supporters in VIC so against the competition?

Summer Soccer will be coming to Victoria.

If the FFV continue their stance well well well, then there in for a very rude awakening. The clubs do have a back up plan to show the FFV how serious they are.:roll:

Probably figured they'd be in the A-League next season o:) :cool:

-PB

Benjamin i think you will find that Sth Melb will announce at 7pm on Wednesday that there withdrawing their interest in the Victorian version of NPL.;) ;)

As I see it, right now South are in a tremendous position - if the NPL goes ahead they are in prime position having played along with the FFV and backed the concept.

If enough teams join the comp South will be in a position to be a dominant side - especially as our major rivals are all backing away.

If, on the other hand, there aren't enough expressions of interest to justify a league, and the FFV are forced to reduce their demands, South will still be onside with the governing body but will be able to take advantage of any concessions the others negotiate.

Win-win.

And if my greek spies are correct, prepare for Sth Melb to decline the invitation too by weeks end.

And now neither will Green Gully be in the NPLV.

If the current board of FFV were to be removed and the NPL tweeked to parallel the other states, then the Knights might change their stance. But for now as ive said all along, the Knights will not be part of the FFV version of NPL.

Theoretically the Knights can enter the NPL after 3 years of its establishment in VIC.
Its a shame to not have such a historic club that has developed such fine footballers not in the new comp.

Nevertheless from the outside they can determine if their fears are justified and if all goes well and it does develop into the Bleague that is being touted, they can enter in 2017.

South publicly stated that they support the NPL - mainly because the club already has everything in place to participate and therefore requires minimal change in order to move over from VPL to NPL.

Knights have gone the other way, despite being in the same position as South. Whilst being quite happy for South to continue in the direction they are heading I applaud the Knights for the clarity and content of their response.

Ha, Ha. Ha! Boo.

The Board is for ging to the NPLV but I don't think they believe what the conditions have become.

If it comes to an EGM decision tha will be interesting.

Wow brilliant.

http://www.sportingpulse.com/club_info.cgi?c=1-8679-132747-0-0&sID=282214


I'm not particularly a big fan of the name but the colours look pretty nice as black and gold.

It's going to interesting in 4 days what teams will be picked

Bent down on their knees I believe....

whats souths stand on the whole NPLV?

PB the basic framework was established by the FFA and the state federations have scope to make additional requirements or entry conditions.

The FFV has a beauracratic view and ideology completley out of sink with its constituancy.

It is set on creating a competition based on "delivery of services" those services being a regionalised competition so new markets can sample second tier football, delivery of standardised coaching so juniors don't need to change clubs, delivery of rebranded clubs to make the second tier more presentable to community and media, more stringent club governance procedures.

You know the sort of things beauracracies put on paper that sound really fantastic but in reality are undeliverable, uncosted and rely on some one else to do all the work.

NPLV definitely sounds infinitely more difficult to be a part then NPLQ.

Thought this competition was meant to be regulated Nation wide via the FFA?

-PB

I know about the current state of State based competitions and crowds are the be all and end all.

That and 600 odd supporters for such teams is good at this point in time.

-PB

Good luck to the Melbourne Knights I admire their members stance on this issue.

Will be interesting to see how members of other clubs will react when and if it goes to EGM's for approval.

PRESS RELEASE
25.05.2013

Melbourne Knights FC posted on May 26, 2013 21:08 Article Rating

The Melbourne Knights Football Club Extraordinary General Meeting was held on Sunday 26th of May, where members were asked to decide on the future direction of the club. When asked the question regarding whether the Melbourne Knights should submit an ‘Expression of Interest’ for the National Premier League Victoria, due at the end of this month, members voted overwhelmingly against the question posed.

86% of Melbourne Knights Football Club financial members voted against submitting an ‘Expression of Interest’ for Football Federation Victoria new ‘elite’ framework, citing a number of serious concerns for the future of the game in this state. In deciding to withdraw from the National Premier League process, most members believe that the proposed Premier League does not have the club’s or, in fact, football’s best interests at heart.

With a youthful Senior Men’s team which comfortably adheres to the ‘Player Points’ outlined in the NPLV documentation, a commitment to Women’s participation, junior development and coaching excellence, as well as access to a privately owned purposed built Class A facility, the Melbourne Knights already meet many of the criteria for the proposed Premier League, scheduled to begin in 2014.

Despite the club’s apparent suitability for the NPLV, members expressed a number of concerns regarding the FFV’s untested vision and framework.
Members were concerned that the club would be forced to charge excessive fees in order to meet exorbitant operational costs, thus making the game or pathway accessible to only those who could afford it. Members questioned the enormous financial strain imposed upon clubs with little to no support from any of the country’s football governing bodies.

Members had issue with the proposed level of control of National Premier League clubs, citing concerns for the lack of self determination available to clubs under the new guidelines. Particularly with regards to ownership of the club’s intellectual property.

When members were made aware of the fact that the NPLV is touted to provide a new ‘Australian National B League’, some expressed sceptiscm with regards to claims that a successful applicant club would have access to a pathway to be promoted to the highest level, many believing that the NPLV model cripples clubs to ensure that they would not be a viable candidate for A-League competition.
Finally, members were made aware of the lack of consultation which has occurred in the lead up to the development of the criteria.

The Melbourne Knights believe that the governing body’s failure to engage with many of its key stakeholders has resulted in clubs potentially submitting expressions of interest or, indeed, applications, in order to avoid being ‘left behind’, rather than in anticipation of a new and exciting direction for football in this state – many club administrators believing that they will be offered an ‘eleventh hour’ opportunity to negotiate changes to the fundamentally flawed framework.

In their 60 year history, the Melbourne Knights Football Club have unearthed and produced an enormous number of players who have gone on to compete at various levels of the sport and represent the state and country in countless representative teams. Regardless of where the Melbourne Knights are pushed to fit or fall within the framework of football in this country, the club will continue to nurture young talent and revere excellence for many years to come.

The Melbourne Knights will continue with its tried and proven methodology with regards to club excellence in all regards, servicing players of all ages and abilities, as well as our most important key stakeholders, our members and supporters.

The Melbourne Knights calls upon the Football Federation Victoria to immediately release the criteria for the so-called ‘community leagues’ so that the club, and other clubs like it, may prepare to the fullest for the 2014 season.


Edited by cro69: 26/5/2013 10:07:17 PM