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CFA Super Cup will take place on Feb 14 as CSL Champions Guangzhou Evergrande plays against CFA Cup Winners Shandong Luneng Taishan.
But the biggest news in Chinese football today is Chanchun Yatai sign Bolivia Striker Marcelo Moreno from Gremio on a annul salary of 4.5 million USD.
Top Scorers of the upcoming season may sounds familiar to a Brazil Serie A fans as some of the best players, 1/3 of the 15 best scorers of 2014 Brazil Serie A comes to China in winter, includs Ricardo Goulart (15 goals, 3rd place on scorer table), Marcelo Moreno (15 goals), Hernán Barcos (14 goals, 5th place), Diego Tardelli (10 goals, 8th Place), Darío Conca (9 goals, 10th Place).
Top salary for CSL foreigner players (After Tax) in EUR
Transfer window closes at Feb 27, still have chances for big signings
Player Age Country Club Salary Darío Conca 31 Argentina Shanghai SIPG 4.5m Ricardo Goulart 23 Brazil Guangzhou Evergrande 4m Elkeson 25 Brazil Guangzhou Evergrande 4m Diego Tardelli 29 Brazil Shandong Luneng Taishan 3.8m Walter Montillo 30 Argentina Shandong Luneng Taishan 3.7m Alan Carvalho 25 Brazil Guangzhou Evergrande 3m Marcelo Moreno 27 Bolivia Changchun Yatai 2.18m Dejan Damjanović 33 Montenegro Beijing Guo'an 2m Davi 30 Brazil Shanghai SIPG 1.95m Hernán Barcos 30 Argentina Tianjin Teda 1.69m Aloísio 26 Brazil Shandong Luneng Taishan 1.6m Pablo Batalla 31 Argentina Beijing Guo'an 1.5m Paulo Henrique 25 Brazil Shanghai Greenland Shenhua 1.5m Júnior Urso 25 Brazil Shandong Luneng Taishan 1.5m Giovanni Moreno 28 Colombia Shanghai Greenland Shenhua 1.45m Tim Cahill 35 Australia Shanghai Greenland Shenhua 1.45m
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Nuts isn't it ! With all them Brazilians and Argentinians it might be good Aussies going over there sooner or later
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So Concas back then. Can you give us any info on Shanghai SIPG? I'm only really familiar with Shenhua.
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Shanghai SIPG was named as Shanghai East Asia, the club was founded and owns by former Chinese international football coach Xu Genbao, the club mostly consists of graduates from Genbao Football Base, a football academy founded by Xu. and the club is famouse for their youth development.
after 2014 CSL, the sponsor Group of the team took over the club from Xu Genbao,and renames the club as Shanghai SIPG."SIPG" is the abbreviation of the new owner, "Shanghai International Port (Group)". the club had announced a season budget of 500 million RMB, that is 81.5 million USD, that means they are the sixth club to join the "500 million club" (clubs who's season budget are more than 500 million RMB) of CSL, other five clubs are Guangzhou Evergrande Taobao, Beijing Guo'an, Shandong Luneng Taishan, Guangzhou R&F and Shanghai Greenland Shenhua.
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Good to see Green Lionii post.:)
He certainly has knowledge in parts of Asia where most of us are unfamiliar with their football milieus.
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greenlionii wrote:Shanghai SIPG was named as Shanghai East Asia, the club was founded and owns by former Chinese international football coach Xu Genbao, the club mostly consists of graduates from Genbao Football Base, a football academy founded by Xu. and the club is famouse for their youth development.
after 2014 CSL, the sponsor Group of the team took over the club from Xu Genbao,and renames the club as Shanghai SIPG."SIPG" is the abbreviation of the new owner, "Shanghai International Port (Group)". the club had announced a season budget of 500 million RMB, that is 81.5 million USD, that means they are the sixth club to join the "500 million club" (clubs who's season budget are more than 500 million RMB) of CSL, other five clubs are Guangzhou Evergrande Taobao, Beijing Guo'an, Shandong Luneng Taishan, Guangzhou R&F and Shanghai Greenland Shenhua. That's a new name, I assume that Evergrande real estate group have divested then?
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melbourne_terrace wrote:greenlionii wrote:Shanghai SIPG was named as Shanghai East Asia, the club was founded and owns by former Chinese international football coach Xu Genbao, the club mostly consists of graduates from Genbao Football Base, a football academy founded by Xu. and the club is famouse for their youth development.
after 2014 CSL, the sponsor Group of the team took over the club from Xu Genbao,and renames the club as Shanghai SIPG."SIPG" is the abbreviation of the new owner, "Shanghai International Port (Group)". the club had announced a season budget of 500 million RMB, that is 81.5 million USD, that means they are the sixth club to join the "500 million club" (clubs who's season budget are more than 500 million RMB) of CSL, other five clubs are Guangzhou Evergrande Taobao, Beijing Guo'an, Shandong Luneng Taishan, Guangzhou R&F and Shanghai Greenland Shenhua. That's a new name, I assume that Evergrande real estate group have divested then? Seems to be that it's because the Alibaba Group bought 50% of the club, Evergrande retaining the other half.
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Apparently Inter Milan are after Evergrande's Zhang Linpeng, who played all of China's games at the Asian Cup at CB.
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Li Peng is a class player. Probably China's best.
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paladisious wrote:melbourne_terrace wrote:greenlionii wrote:Shanghai SIPG was named as Shanghai East Asia, the club was founded and owns by former Chinese international football coach Xu Genbao, the club mostly consists of graduates from Genbao Football Base, a football academy founded by Xu. and the club is famouse for their youth development.
after 2014 CSL, the sponsor Group of the team took over the club from Xu Genbao,and renames the club as Shanghai SIPG."SIPG" is the abbreviation of the new owner, "Shanghai International Port (Group)". the club had announced a season budget of 500 million RMB, that is 81.5 million USD, that means they are the sixth club to join the "500 million club" (clubs who's season budget are more than 500 million RMB) of CSL, other five clubs are Guangzhou Evergrande Taobao, Beijing Guo'an, Shandong Luneng Taishan, Guangzhou R&F and Shanghai Greenland Shenhua. That's a new name, I assume that Evergrande real estate group have divested then? Seems to be that it's because the Alibaba Group bought 50% of the club, Evergrande retaining the other half. Alibaba has bought a 50% stake in GE for 1.2 billion yuan ($192m; £114m).
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Should be a good season. I'd love to go to Workers Stadium to watch a Beijing match :)
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The Chinese Super League has outspent every major league on transfer deals except the Premier League in 2015, according to data from Transfermarkt.
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greenlionii wrote:The Chinese Super League has outspent every major league on transfer deals except the Premier League in 2015, according to data from Transfermarkt. It's amazing how big it is getting, and how quickly. It's great to see the quality of their league improving, as a lot of the Chinese still remember the corruption of the olden days. I'd love it if Fox picked up the rights to it.
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MikeDude wrote:greenlionii wrote:The Chinese Super League has outspent every major league on transfer deals except the Premier League in 2015, according to data from Transfermarkt. It's amazing how big it is getting, and how quickly. It's great to see the quality of their league improving, as a lot of the Chinese still remember the corruption of the olden days. I'd love it if Fox picked up the rights to it. Can't imagine it'd be expensive filler for Fox Sports, and I'm sure a lot of people would want to see Timmy. Then again, I could say the same thing about the MLS, but maybe their asking price was too high.
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paladisious wrote:MikeDude wrote:greenlionii wrote:The Chinese Super League has outspent every major league on transfer deals except the Premier League in 2015, according to data from Transfermarkt. It's amazing how big it is getting, and how quickly. It's great to see the quality of their league improving, as a lot of the Chinese still remember the corruption of the olden days. I'd love it if Fox picked up the rights to it. Can't imagine it'd be expensive filler for Fox Sports, and I'm sure a lot of people would want to see Timmy. Then again, I could say the same thing about the MLS, but maybe their asking price was too high. Foxtel already have 2 CCTV channels, so maybe they could get the rights to CCTV-5 too?
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Official CSL highlights 2015 Round 1 http://v.pptv.com/show/Gz9v7FS6KmjLSZU.htmlCSL Round 1 March 7 Hangzhou Greentown 1-2 Guangzhou R&F (17,833) Shanghai SIPG 2-1 Jiangsu Sainty (31,625) Guizhou Renhe 0-1 Liaoning Whowin (11,806) March 8 Chongqing Lifan 0-3 Beijing Guo'an (39,810) Shandong Luneng Taishan 2-0 Changchun Yatai (13,275) Henanjianye 3-1 Tianjin Teda (20,353) Shanghai Greenland Shenhua 6-2 Shanghai Shenxin (21,328) March 9 Guangzhou Evergrande 2-1 Shijiahzuang Ever Bright (45,421) Total attendance: 201,451 Average 25,181 Edited by greenlionii: 10/3/2015 04:30:13 下午
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Round 2, five matches played
Liaoning Whowin 3-2 Shandong Luneng 12,078 Guangzhu R&F 0-1 Shanghai Greenland Shenhua 11,093 Beijing Guo'an 1-0 Henan Jianye 39,038 Chongqing Lifan 1-2 Guangzhu Evergrande 48,530 Jiangsu Sainty 2-0 Guizhou Renhe 35,286
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Shanghai Shenxin VS Shanghai SIPG Tianjin Teda VS Hangzhou Greentown
Changchun Yatai VS Shijiazhuang Ever Bright postpond
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Why aren't all the Chinese players fighting over shirt number 88? :lol:
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Shanghai Shenxin 0-2 Shanghai SIPG 10,662 Tianjin Teda 0-0 Hangzhou Greentown 28,891
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paladisious wrote:Why aren't all the Chinese players fighting over shirt number 88? :lol: :lol:
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CSL Round three results Shanghai Greenland Shenhua 1-0 Tianjin Teda 22,337 Shandong Luneng Taishan 5-1 Jiangsu Sainty 16,929 Henan Jianye 3-3 Chongqing Lifan 19,528 Guangzhou Evergrande 1-1 Changchun Yatai 46,431 Guizhou Renhe 2-1 Shanghai Shenxin 10,638 Shijiazhuang Ever Bright 1-1 Liaoning Whowin 20,911 Hangzhou Greentown 1-1 Beijing Guoan 16,581 Shanghai SIPG 2-1 Guangzhou R&F 23,039 Total attendance update to Round 3: 563,423 Average attendance Update to Round 3: 24,497 Fans of Shijiazhuang Ever Bright celebrate the clubs first ever match in CSL      China announced its soccer reform and development plan,sets goal of hosting World Cup. According to the plan, the Chinese Football Association will be a fully An independent legal, and The football management center, which is a governmental agency, will no longer exist Regarding the C-League, based on the Currentlly CFA League Council and CSL management company, the New CSL Council and China League Council will be established, both will be separate legal entity, means the CFA will nolonger holds equity of the League, currenttly the CFA holds 36% of the stocks of the CSL company. In regulations announced earlier, the League council had forbid club to relocate from their current province, and set up promotion/relegation between China League 2 and CAL, which is the 3rd level and the 4th level. The Shares of football club will be open to Private shareholders and local government, currentlly it only opens to Government owned or private owned companies. encorages local governments invests football clubs with facilities and infrastructure, encorages clubs to use Neutral names instead of sponsor names. The League will be expanded, in earlier plan announced by the CFA, The CSL will have 18 clubs in 2022, while China League 1 will expand to 20 clubs, China League 2 will expand to 24 clubs.
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GL, is the league ever going to seriously push to get rid of company names in club names, or the owners have too much power? Is there much appetite for this amongst football fans in China, or people don't care?
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paladisious wrote:GL, is the league ever going to seriously push to get rid of company names in club names, or the owners have too much power? Is there much appetite for this amongst football fans in China, or people don't care? for some teams, Company name is not a problem like Guoan, which had been named as Guo'an for more than 20 years and the club itself is a listed company, Clubs like Shenhua (Flower of Shanghai) Taishan (name of a mountain in Shandong province)Shenxin (means prosperous) are already using natual names. But for those clubs who often change names, fans and local media are apparently want to get rid of company names
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greenlionii wrote:paladisious wrote:GL, is the league ever going to seriously push to get rid of company names in club names, or the owners have too much power? Is there much appetite for this amongst football fans in China, or people don't care? for some teams, Company name is not a problem like Guoan, which had been named as Guo'an for more than 20 years and the club itself is a listed company, Clubs like Shenhua (Flower of Shanghai) Taishan (name of a mountain in Shandong province)Shenxin (means prosperous) are already using natual names. But for those clubs who often change names, fans and local media are apparently want to get rid of company names Interesting how some of those names are traditional and locally appropriate, so that makes sense, but I can see why fans would hate having artificial names like Thai Tobacco Monopoly FC, especially if they change from time to time with new shareholders coming on like with the now Guangzhuo Evergrande Taobao FC. It's creeping into western countries a little now with the Red Bull named teams. I can't even imagine owners here trying to push names like Melbourne Metricon PFG FC or Western Sydney Primo Pirtek Topshop FC.
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Round 4
April 3
Shanghai Shenxin 1-2 Shandong Luneng Taishan 6,795 Beijing Guo'an 2-0 Shanghai Greenland Shenhua 47,052 (China National Derby) Henan Jianye 2-1 Guangzhou Evergrande Taobao 21,662 Guangzhou R&F 4-0 Guizhou Renhe 7,678 April 4 Liaoning Whowin 2-2 Changchun Yatai 12,176 Chongqing Lifan 1-2 Hangzhou Greentown 34,570 April 5 Tianjin Teda 0-0 Shanghai SIPG 22,720 Jiangsu Sainty 2-1 Shijiazhuang Ever Bright 26,543
Round 5
April 11 Shijiazhuang Ever Bright 2-1 Shanghai Shenxin 23,183 Guizhou Renhe 0-1 Tianjin Teda 7,283 Shanghai Greenland Shenhua 2-2 Chongqing Lifan 21,557 April 12 Changchun Yatai 2-2 Jiangsu Sainty 15,326 Shanghai SIPG 1-1 Beijing Guo'an 26,025 Shandong Luneng Taishan 1-2 Guangzhou R&F 17,519 Guangzhou Evergrande 6-1 Liaoning Whowin 35,428 April 13 Hangzhou Greentown VS Henan Jianye
Total attendance update to April 12 890,020, Average 23,422
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Round 6 April 17 Beijing Guo'an 2-2 Guizhou Renhe 39,076 Shandong Luneng Taishan 2-3 Tianjin Teda 15,021 Guangzhou Evergrande Taobao 1-0 Hangzhou Greentown 46,321 April 18 Shanghai Shenxin 1-4 Changchun Yatai 6,661 Guangzhou R&F 0-0 Shijiazhuang Ever Bgight 8,383 Jiangsu Sainty 2-1 Liaoning Whowin 29,137 April 19 Shanghai SIPG 2-1 Chongqing Lifan 18,008 Henan Jianye 2-1 Shanghai Greenland Shenhua 20,255 Round 6 Total attendance:182,862 Average 22,858 Season Total attendance:1,083,023 Average 23,043 Table Quote:Ranking Club Matches Points 1 Shanghai SIPG 6 14 2 Guangzhou Evergrande Taobao 6 13 3 Beijing Guo'an 6 12
4 Henan Jianye 6 11 5 Guangzhou R&F 6 10 6 Shanghai Greenland Shenhua 6 10 7 Jiangsu Sainty 6 10 8 Shandong Luneng Taishan 6 9 9 Tianjin Teda 6 8 10 Liaoning Whowin 6 8 11 Changchun Yatai 5 6 12 Hangzhou Greentown 6 6 13 Shijiazhuang Ever Bright 5 5 14 Guizhou Renhe 6 4
15 Chongqing Lifan 6 2 16 Shanghai Shenxin 6 0
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greenlionii wrote:Round 6 April 17 Beijing Guo'an 2-2 Guizhou Renhe 39,076 Shandong Luneng Taishan 2-3 Tianjin Teda 15,021 Guangzhou Evergrande Taobao 1-0 Hangzhou Greentown 46,321 April 18 Shanghai Shenxin 1-4 Changchun Yatai 6,661 Guangzhou R&F 0-0 Shijiazhuang Ever Bgight 8,383 Jiangsu Sainty 2-1 Liaoning Whowin 29,137 April 19 Shanghai SIPG 2-1 Chongqing Lifan 18,008 Henan Jianye 2-1 Shanghai Greenland Shenhua 20,255 Round 6 Total attendance:182,862 Average 22,858 Season Total attendance:1,083,023 Average 23,043 Table Quote:Ranking Club Matches Points 1 Shanghai SIPG 6 14 2 Guangzhou Evergrande Taobao 6 13 3 Beijing Guo'an 6 12
4 Henan Jianye 6 11 5 Guangzhou R&F 6 10 6 Shanghai Greenland Shenhua 6 10 7 Jiangsu Sainty 6 10 8 Shandong Luneng Taishan 6 9 9 Tianjin Teda 6 8 10 Liaoning Whowin 6 8 11 Changchun Yatai 5 6 12 Hangzhou Greentown 6 6 13 Shijiazhuang Ever Bright 5 5 14 Guizhou Renhe 6 4
15 Chongqing Lifan 6 2 16 Shanghai Shenxin 6 0 I'm loving these attendance figures! Thanks for posting them. I know China has had their ups and downs with professional football, but the attendances/number of foreigners/amount of cash the clubs are spending is surely an indication that things are on the rise.
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Big loss for Timmy and co. Eriksson getting result already at SIPG.
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CSL 2015 Round 7 Guangzhu Evergrande Taobao 3-3 Jiangsu Sainty 45,831; Shanghai Greenland Shenhua 2-0 Hangzhou Greentown 21,835; Liaoning Whowin 1-1 Shanghai Shenxin 12,371; Shanghai SIPG 3-0 Henan Jianye 20,123; Changchun Yatai 1-2 Guangzhou R&F 15,326; Guizhou Renhe 0-1 Chongqing Lifan 15,271; Shijiazhuang Ever Bright 4-3 Tianjin Teda 26,613; Shandong Luneng Taishan 3-0 Beijing Guo'an 31,426; Round 7 Total: 188,796,Average:23,600 Season Total: 1,271,769, Average: 23,123 CCTV5 CSL Digest http://tv.cntv.cn/video/C10358/f90232d07e10458889c7721e94acafc7Table # Club Pts 1 Shanghai SIPG 17 2 Guangzhou Evergrande Taobao 14 3 Shanghai Greenland Shenhua 13 4 Guangzhou R&F 13 5 Shandong Luneng Taishan 12 6 Beijing Guoan 12 7 Henan Jianye 11 8 Jiangsu Sainty 11 9 Liaoning Whowin 9 10 Shijiazhuang Ever Bright 8 11 Tianjin Teda 8 12 Changchun Yatai 6 13 Hangzhou Greentown 6 14 Chongqing Lifan 5 15 Guizhou Renhe 4 16 Shanghai Shenxin 1 Edited by greenlionii: 27/4/2015 03:28:45 下午
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Hey greenlionii did you catch Evergrande win? Were they really that much better or was Shenhau chasing the game and got exposed etc?
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CSL 2015 Round 8
May 1 Shanghai Greenlande Shenhua 0-3 Guangzhou Evergrande Taobao 25,751; Guangzhou R&F 0-0 Liaoning Whowin 4,807; Beijing Guo'an 3-1 Shijiazhuang Ever Bright 35,160。 May 2 Jiangsu Sainty 1-0 Shanghai Shenqin 25,413; Henan Jianye 1-1 Guizhou Renhe 20,182; Chongqing Lifasn 2-2 Shandong Luneng Taishan 43,890; May 3 Hangzhou Greentown 1-1 Shanghai SIPG 10,113; Tianjin Teda 1-1 Changchun Yatai 19,658;
Round Total attendance 184,974 Average 23,122 Season Total attendance 1,456,743 Average 23,123
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No title coming Timmys way. 5 -0 defeat to SIPG
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CSL 2015 Round 9 Guangzhou Evergrande Taobao 6-1 Shanghai Shenxin 39,714 Shanghai SIPG 5-0 Shanghai Greenland Shenhua 46,500 Jiangsu Sainty 2-2 Guangzhou R&F 26,134 Hangzhu Greentown 1-0 Guizhou Renhe 10,118 Liaoning Whowin 3-2 Tianjin Teda 10,027 Shandong Luneng Taishan 2-1 Henan Jianye 10,156 Changchun Yatai 1-2 Beijing Guo'an 17,521 Shijiazhuang Ever Bright 2-0 Chongqing Lifan 24,307 Round 9 Total 184,477 Average 23,060 Season Total 1,641,220 Average 23,116 CCTV5 CSL digest 2015 Round 9 http://tv.cntv.cn/video/C10358/69eeb83828d04c7399bf869d624846bcEdited by greenlionii: 12/5/2015 06:49:30 下午
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Very consistent attendance figures. If they keep it up, they'd be #6 in terms of average attendance in the world (not including different football codes).
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AEK Spartan wrote:Hey greenlionii did you catch Evergrande win? Were they really that much better or was Shenhau chasing the game and got exposed etc? I think Shenhua is overated, especially by their own media and fans, leads to psychological imbalance when playing against stronger teams, should be compete for a ACL spot rather than Champions title, what is important for the players is realism about what is possible, that could release the pressure of compete Edited by greenlionii: 12/5/2015 11:49:00 下午
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CSL 2015 Round 10
May 15
Guangzhou Evergrande Taobao 1-1 Shanghai SIPG 48,637
May 16
Guangzhou R&F 1-3 Shanghai Shenxin 5,063 Hangzhou Greentown 0-1 Shandong Luneng Taishan 11,354 Beijing Guo'an 2-0 Liaoning Whowin 38,318 Chongqing Lifan 2-1 Changchun Yatai 34,610 Henan Jianye 0-1 Shijiazhuang Ever Bright 21,677
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Tianjin Teda 1-0 Jiangsu Sainty 20,508 Shanghai Greenland Shenhua 1-1 Guizhou Renhe 15,167
Update to May 16, Season total attendance: 1,846,454 Average attendance: 23,373
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Greenlion, why the massive difference between Guangzhou Evergrande and Guangzhou R&F's crowd numbers?
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JayEss wrote:Greenlion, why the massive difference between Guangzhou Evergrande and Guangzhou R&F's crowd numbers? Maybe it's like Victory and City/Heart? :-k
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CSL 2015 Round 11 Guangzhou Evergrande Taobao 2-2 Guangzhou R&F 43790 Guizhou Renhe 2-0 Shanghai SIPG 10864 Shanghai Shenxin 0-1 Tianjin Teda 6740 Shandong Luneng Taishan 2-0 Shanghai Greenland Shenhua 23265 Jiangsu Sainty 0-0 Beijing Guoan 36147 Shijiazhuang Ever Bright 0-0 Hangzhou Greentown 25228 Liaoning Whowin 1-1 Chongqing Lifan 20216 Changchun Yatai 2-0 Henan Jianye 12415 Round 11 total attendance 178,665 Average 22,333 Update to May 24, Season total attendance 2,025,119 Average 23,277 after 11 rounds four teams level with 22 points and leading the table TABELLE CHINESE SUPER LEAGUE 2015 # Verein Spiele +/- Pkt. 1 Guangzhou Evergrande 11 15 22 2 Shandong Luneng 11 11 22 3 Shanghai SIPG 11 11 22 4 Beijing Guoan 11 8 22 5 Guangzhou R&F 11 3 16 6 Jiangsu Sainty 11 -1 16 7 Shijiazhuang Ever Bright 10 1 15 8 Tianjin Teda 11 -1 15 9 Shanghai Shenhua 11 -5 14 10 Liaoning Whowin 11 -5 14 11 Henan Jianye 11 -4 12 12 Hangzhou Greentown 11 -3 11 13 Changchun Yatai 10 0 10 14 Chongqing Lifan 11 -6 10 15 Guizhou Renhe 11 -7 9 16 Shanghai Shenxin 11 -17 4 Edited by greenlionii: 25/5/2015 11:18:01 下午
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MikeDude wrote:JayEss wrote:Greenlion, why the massive difference between Guangzhou Evergrande and Guangzhou R&F's crowd numbers? Maybe it's like Victory and City/Heart? :-k Yeah seems pretty obvious. One is the powerhouse leader of domestic football and represents the nation in Asia, and the other is like City/Heart.
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