Yeah seems pretty obvious. One is the powerhouse leader of domestic football and represents the nation in Asia, and the other is like City/Heart.

CSL 2015 Round 11

Guangzhou Evergrande Taobao 2-2 Guangzhou R&F 43790
Guizhou Renhe 2-0 Shanghai SIPG 10864
Shanghai Shenxin 0-1 Tianjin Teda 6740
Shandong Luneng Taishan 2-0 Shanghai Greenland Shenhua 23265
Jiangsu Sainty 0-0 Beijing Guoan 36147
Shijiazhuang Ever Bright 0-0 Hangzhou Greentown 25228
Liaoning Whowin 1-1 Chongqing Lifan 20216
Changchun Yatai 2-0 Henan Jianye 12415

Round 11 total attendance 178,665 Average 22,333
Update to May 24, Season total attendance 2,025,119 Average 23,277

after 11 rounds four teams level with 22 points and leading the table

TABELLE CHINESE SUPER LEAGUE 2015
#   Verein                  Spiele   +/-   Pkt.
1    Guangzhou Evergrande    11   15   22
2    Shandong  Luneng    11   11   22
3    Shanghai  SIPG            11   11   22
4    Beijing Guoan            11   8   22
5    Guangzhou R&F            11   3   16
6    Jiangsu Sainty            11   -1   16
7    Shijiazhuang Ever Bright 10   1   15
8    Tianjin Teda            11   -1   15
9    Shanghai Shenhua    11   -5   14
10    Liaoning Whowin            11   -5   14
11    Henan Jianye            11   -4   12
12    Hangzhou Greentown    11   -3   11
13    Changchun Yatai            10   0   10
14    Chongqing Lifan             11   -6   10
15    Guizhou Renhe        11   -7   9
16    Shanghai Shenxin    11   -17   4

Edited by greenlionii: 25/5/2015 11:18:01 下午

Maybe it's like Victory and City/Heart? :-k

Greenlion, why the massive difference between Guangzhou Evergrande and Guangzhou R&F's crowd numbers?

CSL 2015 Round 10

May 15

Guangzhou Evergrande Taobao 1-1 Shanghai SIPG 48,637

May 16

Guangzhou R&F 1-3 Shanghai Shenxin 5,063
Hangzhou Greentown 0-1 Shandong Luneng Taishan 11,354
Beijing Guo'an 2-0 Liaoning Whowin 38,318
Chongqing Lifan 2-1 Changchun Yatai 34,610
Henan Jianye 0-1 Shijiazhuang Ever Bright 21,677

May 17

Tianjin Teda 1-0 Jiangsu Sainty 20,508
Shanghai Greenland Shenhua 1-1 Guizhou Renhe 15,167

Update to May 16, Season total attendance: 1,846,454 Average attendance: 23,373

I think Shenhua is overated, especially by their own media and fans, leads to psychological imbalance when playing against stronger teams, should be compete for a ACL spot rather than Champions title, what is important for the players is realism about what is possible, that could release the pressure of compete

Edited by greenlionii: 12/5/2015 11:49:00 下午

Very consistent attendance figures. If they keep it up, they'd be #6 in terms of average attendance in the world (not including different football codes).

CSL 2015 Round 9

Guangzhou Evergrande Taobao 6-1 Shanghai Shenxin 39,714
Shanghai SIPG 5-0 Shanghai Greenland Shenhua 46,500
Jiangsu Sainty 2-2 Guangzhou R&F 26,134
Hangzhu Greentown 1-0 Guizhou Renhe 10,118
Liaoning Whowin 3-2 Tianjin Teda 10,027
Shandong Luneng Taishan 2-1 Henan Jianye 10,156
Changchun Yatai 1-2 Beijing Guo'an 17,521
Shijiazhuang Ever Bright 2-0 Chongqing Lifan 24,307

Round 9 Total 184,477 Average 23,060
Season Total 1,641,220 Average 23,116

CCTV5 CSL digest 2015 Round 9
http://tv.cntv.cn/video/C10358/69eeb83828d04c7399bf869d624846bc

Edited by greenlionii: 12/5/2015 06:49:30 下午

No title coming Timmys way. 5 -0 defeat to SIPG

CSL 2015 Round 8

May 1
Shanghai Greenlande Shenhua 0-3 Guangzhou Evergrande Taobao 25,751；
Guangzhou R&F 0-0 Liaoning Whowin 4,807；
Beijing Guo'an 3-1 Shijiazhuang Ever Bright 35,160。
May 2
Jiangsu Sainty 1-0 Shanghai Shenqin 25,413；
Henan Jianye 1-1 Guizhou Renhe 20,182；
Chongqing Lifasn 2-2 Shandong Luneng Taishan 43,890；
May 3
Hangzhou Greentown 1-1 Shanghai SIPG 10,113；
Tianjin Teda 1-1 Changchun Yatai 19,658；

Round Total attendance 184,974 Average 23,122
Season Total attendance 1,456,743 Average 23,123

Hey greenlionii did you catch Evergrande win? Were they really that much better or was Shenhau chasing the game and got exposed etc?

CSL 2015 Round 7

Guangzhu Evergrande Taobao 3-3 Jiangsu Sainty 45,831；
Shanghai Greenland Shenhua 2-0 Hangzhou Greentown 21,835；
Liaoning Whowin 1-1 Shanghai Shenxin 12,371；
Shanghai SIPG 3-0 Henan Jianye 20,123；
Changchun Yatai 1-2 Guangzhou R&F 15,326；
Guizhou Renhe 0-1 Chongqing Lifan 15,271；
Shijiazhuang Ever Bright 4-3 Tianjin Teda 26,613；
Shandong Luneng Taishan 3-0 Beijing Guo'an 31,426；
Round 7 Total: 188,796，Average:23,600
Season Total: 1,271,769， Average: 23,123

CCTV5 CSL Digest
http://tv.cntv.cn/video/C10358/f90232d07e10458889c7721e94acafc7

Table 
# Club                           Pts
1 Shanghai SIPG                   17
2 Guangzhou Evergrande Taobao   14
3 Shanghai Greenland Shenhua   13
4 Guangzhou R&F              13
5 Shandong Luneng Taishan   12
6 Beijing Guoan                   12
7 Henan Jianye                   11
8 Jiangsu Sainty                11
9 Liaoning Whowin            9
10 Shijiazhuang Ever Bright    8
11 Tianjin Teda                    8
12 Changchun Yatai            6
13 Hangzhou Greentown            6
14 Chongqing Lifan         5
15 Guizhou Renhe        4
16 Shanghai Shenxin              1

Edited by greenlionii: 27/4/2015 03:28:45 下午

Big loss for Timmy and co. Eriksson getting result already at SIPG.

I'm loving these attendance figures! Thanks for posting them. I know China has had their ups and downs with professional football, but the attendances/number of foreigners/amount of cash the clubs are spending is surely an indication that things are on the rise.

Round 6

April 17
Beijing Guo'an 2-2 Guizhou Renhe 39,076
Shandong Luneng Taishan 2-3 Tianjin Teda 15,021
Guangzhou Evergrande Taobao 1-0 Hangzhou Greentown 46,321
April 18
Shanghai Shenxin 1-4 Changchun Yatai 6,661   
Guangzhou R&F 0-0 Shijiazhuang Ever Bgight 8,383
Jiangsu Sainty 2-1 Liaoning Whowin 29,137
April 19
Shanghai SIPG 2-1 Chongqing Lifan 18,008
Henan Jianye 2-1 Shanghai Greenland Shenhua 20,255

Round 6 Total attendance：182,862 Average 22,858
Season Total attendance：1,083,023 Average 23,043

Table

Round 4

April 3

Shanghai Shenxin 1-2 Shandong Luneng Taishan 6,795
Beijing Guo'an 2-0 Shanghai Greenland Shenhua 47,052 (China National Derby)
Henan Jianye 2-1 Guangzhou Evergrande Taobao 21,662
Guangzhou R&F 4-0 Guizhou Renhe 7,678
April 4
Liaoning Whowin 2-2 Changchun Yatai 12,176
Chongqing Lifan 1-2 Hangzhou Greentown 34,570
April 5
Tianjin Teda 0-0 Shanghai SIPG 22,720
Jiangsu Sainty 2-1 Shijiazhuang Ever Bright 26,543

Round 5

April 11
Shijiazhuang Ever Bright 2-1 Shanghai Shenxin 23,183
Guizhou Renhe 0-1 Tianjin Teda 7,283
Shanghai Greenland Shenhua 2-2 Chongqing Lifan 21,557
April 12
Changchun Yatai 2-2 Jiangsu Sainty 15,326
Shanghai SIPG 1-1 Beijing Guo'an 26,025
Shandong Luneng Taishan 1-2 Guangzhou R&F 17,519
Guangzhou Evergrande 6-1 Liaoning Whowin 35,428
April 13
Hangzhou Greentown VS Henan Jianye

Total attendance update to April 12 890,020， Average 23,422

Interesting how some of those names are traditional and locally appropriate, so that makes sense, but I can see why fans would hate having artificial names like Thai Tobacco Monopoly FC, especially if they change from time to time with new shareholders coming on like with the now Guangzhuo Evergrande Taobao FC.

It's creeping into western countries a little now with the Red Bull named teams. I can't even imagine owners here trying to push names like Melbourne Metricon PFG FC or Western Sydney Primo Pirtek Topshop FC.

for some teams, Company name is not a problem like Guoan, which had been named as Guo'an for more than 20 years and the club itself is a listed company, Clubs like Shenhua (Flower of Shanghai) Taishan (name of a mountain in Shandong province)Shenxin (means prosperous) are already using natual names.

But for those clubs who often change names, fans and local media are apparently want to get rid of company names

GL, is the league ever going to seriously push to get rid of company names in club names, or the owners have too much power? Is there much appetite for this amongst football fans in China, or people don't care?

CSL Round three results

Shanghai Greenland Shenhua 1-0 Tianjin Teda 22,337
Shandong Luneng Taishan 5-1 Jiangsu Sainty 16,929
Henan Jianye 3-3 Chongqing Lifan 19,528
Guangzhou Evergrande 1-1 Changchun Yatai 46,431
Guizhou Renhe 2-1 Shanghai Shenxin 10,638
Shijiazhuang Ever Bright 1-1 Liaoning Whowin 20,911
Hangzhou Greentown 1-1 Beijing Guoan 16,581
Shanghai SIPG 2-1 Guangzhou R&F 23,039

Total attendance update to Round 3: 563,423
Average attendance Update to Round 3: 24,497

Fans of Shijiazhuang Ever Bright celebrate the clubs first ever match in CSL







China announced its soccer reform and development plan,sets goal of hosting World Cup.

According to the plan, the Chinese Football Association will be a fully An independent legal, and The football management center, which is a governmental agency, will no longer exist

Regarding the C-League, based on the Currentlly CFA League Council and CSL management company, the New CSL Council and China League Council will be established, both will be separate legal entity, means the CFA will nolonger holds equity of the League, currenttly the CFA holds 36% of the stocks of the CSL company.

In regulations announced earlier, the League council had forbid club to relocate from their current province, and set up promotion/relegation between China League 2 and CAL, which is the 3rd level and the 4th level.

The Shares of football club will be open to Private shareholders and local government, currentlly it only opens to Government owned or private owned companies. encorages local governments invests football clubs with facilities and infrastructure, encorages clubs to use Neutral names instead of sponsor names.

The League will be expanded, in earlier plan announced by the CFA, The CSL will have 18 clubs in 2022, while China League 1 will expand to 20 clubs, China League 2 will expand to 24 clubs.

:lol:

Shanghai Shenxin 0-2 Shanghai SIPG 10,662
Tianjin Teda 0-0 Hangzhou Greentown 28,891

Why aren't all the Chinese players fighting over shirt number 88? :lol:

Round 2, five matches played

Liaoning Whowin 3-2 Shandong Luneng 12,078
Guangzhu R&F 0-1 Shanghai Greenland Shenhua 11,093
Beijing Guo'an 1-0 Henan Jianye 39,038
Chongqing Lifan 1-2 Guangzhu Evergrande 48,530
Jiangsu Sainty 2-0 Guizhou Renhe 35,286

today

Shanghai Shenxin VS Shanghai SIPG
Tianjin Teda VS Hangzhou Greentown

Changchun Yatai VS Shijiazhuang Ever Bright postpond

Official CSL highlights 2015 Round 1

http://v.pptv.com/show/Gz9v7FS6KmjLSZU.html

CSL Round 1

March 7
Hangzhou Greentown 1-2 Guangzhou R&F (17,833)
Shanghai SIPG 2-1 Jiangsu Sainty (31,625)
Guizhou Renhe 0-1 Liaoning Whowin (11,806)

March 8
Chongqing Lifan 0-3 Beijing Guo'an (39,810)
Shandong Luneng Taishan 2-0 Changchun Yatai (13,275)
Henanjianye 3-1 Tianjin Teda (20,353)
Shanghai Greenland Shenhua 6-2 Shanghai Shenxin (21,328)

March 9
Guangzhou Evergrande 2-1 Shijiahzuang Ever Bright (45,421)

Total attendance: 201,451 Average 25,181

Edited by greenlionii: 10/3/2015 04:30:13 下午

Foxtel already have 2 CCTV channels, so maybe they could get the rights to CCTV-5 too?

Can't imagine it'd be expensive filler for Fox Sports, and I'm sure a lot of people would want to see Timmy.

Then again, I could say the same thing about the MLS, but maybe their asking price was too high.

It's amazing how big it is getting, and how quickly. It's great to see the quality of their league improving, as a lot of the Chinese still remember the corruption of the olden days. I'd love it if Fox picked up the rights to it.

The Chinese Super League has outspent every major league on transfer deals except the Premier League in 2015, according to data from Transfermarkt.

Should be a good season. I'd love to go to Workers Stadium to watch a Beijing match :)