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Youtube recommendations are funny. Got some u17 WC highlights where we beat Argentina in 2015.

I looked it up and Australia has hosted the U20 WC twice in 81 and 93. Does anyone remember any of that?

I was wondering why we'd never even seem to have made a modern day bid for either of the youth tournaments.

In the surface it seems UEFA aren't really interested in the U17 as Finland last hosted in 2003 while it's keenly a South American and Asian tournament seeing

South Korea, India and UAE
Mexico, Nigeria, Chile, Brazil and Peru being the next host. I could go deeper into each one but India beat Ireland, Uzbekistan and Azerbaijan for the 2017 one.

The U20 WC seems more popular with UEFA. There's isn't any official rotation. Indonesia are hosting 2021.

Australia is going for the women's world cup which is much bigger the the U20 so I guess around 2031 we can hopefully give it a go and have a few more boutique stadiums about. 
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AFC U19 championship is scheduled for October in Uzbekistan to qualify for the the 2021 U20 WC. Very slim chance it'll be held. 
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johnszasz - 19 May 2020 12:52 AM
I looked it up and Australia has hosted the U20 WC twice in 81 and 93. Does anyone remember any of that?

I was too young to remember 1993, but that is what I call a banger of a logo:



The games in Adelaide were at Football Park, hope they handed out binoculars with the tickets.

Australia losing the 3rd place playoff to England, good effort.

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johnszasz - 19 May 2020 12:52 AM
I was wondering why we'd never even seem to have made a modern day bid for either of the youth tournaments.

Very good question. Let alone a FIFA tournament, we also haven't hosted an AFC or even an AFF youth tournament at any level of either gender since Lowy took over, so it obviously wasn't seen as a priority by his regime.

Closest we got was the great idea of holding a qualifying group out in Shepparton one time, until the Liberal federal government interfered and shut it down to spite North Korea, which frankly should have earned us a sanction from FIFA.
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I hope the under 16 afc tournament goes ahead in Bahrain during September 
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Draw for the 2020 AFC U16 Championship live in about 20 minutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XVd6Qn-ECo

Apparently it's still going ahead in September? Gotta keep things on track for the U17 WC next year I guess.
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I don’t think we are qualifying through this one.
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chondro - 18 Jun 2020 4:16 PM
I don’t think we are qualifying through this one.

Hey we beat mighty Mongolia 2-1 on the way to this one (their two own goals might have helped).
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Fill in the blanks...

GK-J.Warhawsky
RB-J.Rawlins
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AM-B.Oliveira
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We're a second seed. Group action versus Japan or South Korea incoming.
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All four semi finalists going through to the 2021 U17 World Cup.
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We've got India and Uzbekistan, a pot 1 country to come.
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paladisious - 18 Jun 2020 4:41 PM
We're a second seed. Group action versus Japan or South Korea incoming.

Has to be one of them now.
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South Korea, India and Uzbekistan.

Second will do.
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Japan get group D with Indonesia, Saudi and China. We'd have to beat the winner or runner up from that group in the quarter final to qualify for the WC.
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2020 AFC U19 Championship draw live now: https://youtu.be/QNarYopYHJ4

Knocking them all out in one day, sensible enough.
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We're a second seed for this one as well.
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Good representation from ASEAN in this one, hope they're not all drawn into the same group again.
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We've got Vietnam and Laos, one first seed team to come.
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paladisious - 18 Jun 2020 6:50 PM
We've got Vietnam and Laos, one first seed team to come.

Saudi, current U19 champs.
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Rigged for Qatar


By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.

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Rigged for Qatar

Always.
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Group C again, so we'd be playing against the winner or runner up of Group D (Qatar, Tajikistan, Malaysia and Yemen) in the quarter finals for a FIFA U21 WC spot, unless hosts Indonesia make the semis whereby the four quarter finals losers play off for the spot (should play them anyway for ranking and a chance for development, I reckon).
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We had Laos in our qualifaction group as well. 2-2 draw.
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Squad could look something like this?

GK
Calderbank-Park
James
Pavlesic

DF
Courtney-Perkins
Natta
Mlinaric
Aquilina
Powell
Kucharski
Abdulahi

MF
Teague
Darrigo
Watts
Robertson
Duzel
Ruiz-Diaz

FW
Brook
Italiano
Tilio
Hammond
Ianucci
Roberts
Botic
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chondro - 18 Jun 2020 6:59 PM
Squad could look something like this?

GK
Calderbank-Park
James
Pavlesic

DF
Courtney-Perkins
Natta
Mlinaric
Aquilina
Powell
Kucharski
Abdulahi

MF
Teague
Darrigo
Watts
Robertson
Duzel
Ruiz-Diaz

FW
Brook
Italiano
Tilio
Hammond
Ianucci
Roberts
Botic

If the comps go ahead it’s not too far off -4-5 months.
Hopefully enough time to get a few camps happening, maybe with a few new player inclusions to the list named above. I given the number of covid cases in Canberra,  the AIS might be an option for longer camps. 
Nonetheless, looking forward to a strong campaign in both u16 and u19
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Having seen so many young players play in the A-League restart - what would your Olyroos (1997-onwards) and Young Socceroos (2001-onwards) squads be if they were picked now??

Mine would be 
Olyroos:
GK: Glover, Holmes, Maynard Brewer
DF: Gersbach, Deng, Souttar, Atkinson, Ryan, Mourdoukoutas, Strain, King
MF: McGree, Devlin, Baccus, Duncan, Genreau, O’Neill
FW: Arzani, D’Agostino, Piscopo, A. Toure, Italiano, Iredale

Young Socceroos
GK: Pavlesic, Calderbank Park, James
DF: Powell, Natta, Pagden, Mlinaric, Courtney Perkins, Fay
MF: D’Arrigo, Gomulka, Teague, Barnett, Watts, Kirdar, Popovic
FW: Brook, Botic, Ruiz Diaz, Italiano, Lawrie Lattanzio, Hammond, Tilio



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sportaddict - 9 Aug 2020 2:36 PM
Having seen so many young players play in the A-League restart - what would your Olyroos (1997-onwards) and Young Socceroos (2001-onwards) squads be if they were picked now??

Mine would be 
Olyroos:
GK: Glover, Holmes, Maynard Brewer
DF: Gersbach, Deng, Souttar, Atkinson, Ryan, Mourdoukoutas, Strain, King
MF: McGree, Devlin, Baccus, Duncan, Genreau, O’Neill
FW: Arzani, D’Agostino, Piscopo, A. Toure, Italiano, Iredale

Young Socceroos
GK: Pavlesic, Calderbank Park, James
DF: Powell, Natta, Pagden, Mlinaric, Courtney Perkins, Fay
MF: D’Arrigo, Gomulka, Teague, Barnett, Watts, Kirdar, Popovic
FW: Brook, Botic, Ruiz Diaz, Italiano, Lawrie Lattanzio, Hammond, Tilio



Olympic tournament is an 18 man squad and may contain 3 overage players.

Who would be your 18 (1997 onwards) and what positions would you strengthen with overage players    
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Olympic tournament is an 18 man squad and may contain 3 overage players.

Who would be your 18 (1997 onwards) and what positions would you strengthen with overage players    


sportaddict - 9 Aug 2020 2:36 PM
Having seen so many young players play in the A-League restart - what would your Olyroos (1997-onwards) and Young Socceroos (2001-onwards) squads be if they were picked now??

Mine would be 
Olyroos:
GK: Glover, Holmes, Maynard Brewer
DF: Gersbach, Deng, Souttar, Atkinson, Ryan, Mourdoukoutas, Strain, King
MF: McGree, Devlin, Baccus, Duncan, Genreau, O’Neill
FW: Arzani, D’Agostino, Piscopo, A. Toure, Italiano, Iredale

Young Socceroos
GK: Pavlesic, Calderbank Park, James
DF: Powell, Natta, Pagden, Mlinaric, Courtney Perkins, Fay
MF: D’Arrigo, Gomulka, Teague, Barnett, Watts, Kirdar, Popovic
FW: Brook, Botic, Ruiz Diaz, Italiano, Lawrie Lattanzio, Hammond, Tilio



Your NOT being serious leaving out Isaac Danzo for the likes of Barnett!

And there are also several other higher quality overseas based players, whose names escape me for the moment, that also deserve strong consideration over some of your other selections.

That said though, both of your teams are reasonable lineups.


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Your NOT being serious leaving out Isaac Danzo for the likes of Barnett!

And there are also several other higher quality overseas based players, whose names escape me for the moment, that also deserve strong consideration over some of your other selections.

That said though, both of your teams are reasonable lineups.

Isaac Danzo was born in 2000. He is thus ineligible for the Young Socceroos. 
Yes, I have left some young OS Aussies out. 
Alexander Robertson, Murray Miller, Doni Grdic, Luka Prso, Philip Cancar, Alberto del Grosso, Cooper Skerry and Nicholas Bilokapic might get a look in for the Young Socceroos but none have ever had first team football so it’s hard to compare to Aussie based players. 
For the Olyroos, I left likes of Gabriel Cleur, Tyrese Francois and Daniel Bouman out among others but none really stick out compared to some of the players I included. 

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