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Can we still get 04 chipperfield?
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chondro - 10 Sep 2020 9:03 PM
Can we still get 04 chipperfield?

Liam was born in Basel and lived all his life in Switzerland, and has been with FC Basel since he was very young as far as I can see. He's still eligible for Australia of course by birthright despite a few Swiss U15 and U16 caps, but it'd be hard to blame him if he did feel more at home in the Swiss team. Still only 16 but has played all four games for Basel's U18s so far this season, so I'll still be watching him at least until he's definitely locked in for Switzerland.
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Is he playing left mid or left back atm?
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Idrus Abdulahi is listed as a potential football manager 21 wonderkid which is a pretty big deal 


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Young Socceroos vs Mariners next week. Sunday at Central Coast Stadium. The first friendly for the squad as they prepare for a packed 2021 schedule.

AFC U19 Championship Uzbekistan starts on 3 March.

Then, if we qualify in that tournament, the FIFA U20 World Cup Indonesia is straight after, starting 20 May.

It would be cool to qualify for this one especially as an AFC nation is hosting. 
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Usually the squads are announced on Tuesdays. Keen to see who GVE calls up.

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Bowden - 13 Dec 2020 11:17 PM
Young Socceroos vs Mariners next week. Sunday at Central Coast Stadium. The first friendly for the squad as they prepare for a packed 2021 schedule.

AFC U19 Championship Uzbekistan starts on 3 March.

Then, if we qualify in that tournament, the FIFA U20 World Cup Indonesia is straight after, starting 20 May.

It would be cool to qualify for this one especially as an AFC nation is hosting. 

An Australia based squad? 

GK:
James 
Kalac
Cook
N/A: Pavlesic (injured)

DF: 
Aquilina
Trewin 
Mlinaric
Pagden
Talbot
Powell
Cancar

N/A: Courtney Perkins (injured), Rawlins (quarantine)
MF: 
Barnett
D’Arrigo
Gomulka
Kirdar
Duzel
Hollman
Carluccio
Nieuwenhof 

FW: 
Tilio
Wood
Ianucci
Ruhs
Auglah

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That squad looks pretty spot on to me! 

I’d add in Dylan Ruiz-Diaz but no idea where he even is right now. Some say he’s trialling overseas, but I’ve heard whispers he’s back home. 

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Bowden - 13 Dec 2020 11:36 PM
That squad looks pretty spot on to me! 

I’d add in Dylan Ruiz-Diaz but no idea where he even is right now. Some say he’s trialling overseas, but I’ve heard whispers he’s back home. 

I’m fairly sure he is currently trialling with/trialled with Shakhtar Donetsk or maybe Dynamo Kyiv. Definitely a team based in Kyiv. He is the first attacker picked for this side if available though imo. 
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Bowden - 13 Dec 2020 11:36 PM
That squad looks pretty spot on to me! 

I’d add in Dylan Ruiz-Diaz but no idea where he even is right now. Some say he’s trialling overseas, but I’ve heard whispers he’s back home. 

Update - Dylan is definitely still in Ukraine. 
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Nice work finding that out 👌 
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sportaddict - 14 Dec 2020 8:40 AM
Bowden - 13 Dec 2020 11:36 PM

Update - Dylan is definitely still in Ukraine. 

Very interesting place to go, interested to know how/where they scouted him, or how his agent presuming he has one has contacts with a Ukrainian team(s).



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Still no squad announcement 🤔
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Bad news with regards our youth national teams for 2021 with both the Fifa u17 and u20 world cups cancelled this year with both events moved to 2023.

So the u17 and u20 will have a big gap they could miss out when there is no international level football for next year, hopefully the FA(Football Australia) could organise something for them as this could harm their development, the Performance Gap highlighted about the lack of international exposure too.

https://www.fifa.com/news/update-on-fifa-women-s-world-cuptm-and-men-s-youth-competitions

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Oh damn, that’s a huge shame :( 
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Josh Nisbet bursting onto the scene if you ask me and is of age.
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johnszasz - 3 Jan 2021 7:33 PM
Josh Nisbet bursting onto the scene if you ask me and is of age.

Definitely. Very good player. 
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What’s everyone’s Olyroos team at this point? 18 man squad remember - ignore overage players. 

GK: Delianov, Glover
DF: Gersbach, Souttar, Deng, Strain, Atkinson, Mourdoukoutas
MF: O’Neill, Devlin, Baccus, McGree, Genreau, Kalik
FW: D’Agostino, Piscopo, Arzani, Buhagiar 

Shadow Players: Margush, Ryan, Cleur, King, Duncan, Metcalfe, Touré, Juric, Iredale 

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sportaddict - 3 Jan 2021 8:13 PM
What’s everyone’s Olyroos team at this point? 18 man squad remember - ignore overage players. 

GK: Delianov, Glover
DF: Gersbach, Souttar, Deng, Strain, Atkinson, Mourdoukoutas
MF: O’Neill, Devlin, Baccus, McGree, Genreau, Kalik
FW: D’Agostino, Piscopo, Arzani, Buhagiar 

Shadow Players: Margush, Ryan, Cleur, King, Duncan, Metcalfe, Touré, Juric, Iredale 

That’s a good squad, especially if Souttar, McGree and Arzani all play.
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You could build a decent u20 team as well given the amount of young players that have played so far.

u20 eligible players that have gotten minutes: Hollman, Runs, Wood, Nieuwenhof, Dukuly, D'Arrigo, Noah Smith, Mohamed Toure, Aquillina, Mouragis, Barnett, Tilio, Gomulka

Including the large u23 list players already, very healthy for Aus football! 



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Missed
21’ u17s 04/05/06
21’ u20s 01/02/03

Next crop are 
01/02/03 olympics 2024 - team will be stacked
06/07/08 u17s 2023 - unknown
03/04/05 u20s 2023 - team looking good up front and in midfield.
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sportaddict - 14 Dec 2020 12:09 AM
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I’m fairly sure he is currently trialling with/trialled with Shakhtar Donetsk or maybe Dynamo Kyiv. Definitely a team based in Kyiv. He is the first attacker picked for this side if available though imo. 

Don't be silly. He's not Brazilian :D

I see what they're doing. Train him up and cap him for Ukraine. Shakhtar are more Brazilian than the Amazon. 

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chondro - 4 Jan 2021 8:29 AM
01/02/03 olympics 2024 - team will be stacked

Thoughts on our strongest starting XI from this crop?

Midfield looks strong and forwards decent with Kuol but unsure about defence and GK.
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johnszasz - 4 Jan 2021 9:00 AM
sportaddict - 14 Dec 2020 12:09 AM

Don't be silly. He's not Brazilian :D

I see what they're doing. Train him up and cap him for Ukraine. Shakhtar are more Brazilian than the Amazon. 

He’s at Dynamo Kyiv 
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Bowden - 4 Jan 2021 10:01 AM
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Thoughts on our strongest starting XI from this crop?

Midfield looks strong and forwards decent with Kuol but unsure about defence and GK.

Pavlesic/James; Aquilina, Courtney-Perkins, Trewin, Nishikawa; Nieuwenhof, Popovic, D’Arrigo; Tilio, Ruiz-Diaz, Brook 

RES: Rawlins, Gomulka, Kirdar, Duzel, Teague, Robertson, Hammond, Botic, Dukuly, Barnett, Powell, Toure, Kuol, Hollman, Ruhs, Cancar, Prso, Auglah, Mauragis, Watts
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GK options
01
Calderbank-Park
James
Cook
Kaye

02
Pavlesic
Bilokapic
Kalac
Hart

CB options
Trewin
Cancar
Courtney perkins
Mlinaric
Natta

RB options
Aquilina
Stokes
Abdulahi

LB options
Nishikawa
Powell



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sportaddict - 4 Jan 2021 10:42 AM
Bowden - 4 Jan 2021 10:01 AM

Pavlesic/James; Aquilina, Courtney-Perkins, Trewin, Nishikawa; Nieuwenhof, Popovic, D’Arrigo; Tilio, Ruiz-Diaz, Brook 

RES: Rawlins, Gomulka, Kirdar, Duzel, Teague, Robertson, Hammond, Botic, Dukuly, Barnett, Powell, Toure, Kuol, Hollman, Ruhs, Cancar, Prso, Auglah, Mauragis, Watts

Hard to judge but the next u23 team could be more stacked with talent.
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Hard to judge but the next u23 team could be more stacked with talent.

Hopefully. Maybe not necessarily more talented but getting regular football to expedite their improvement and progression at a younger age to maximise their potential. It is clear that when talented players get 2-3 seasons of regular starts they will reach a level where they are amongst the best A-League performers and are capable of attracting overseas attention. Keanu Baccus has now had 2.5 seasons of regular football at the age of 22, and is imo at least the Wanderers’ best midfielder. Louis D’Arrigo at age 19 has had 1, and is already clearly a better player than last season. Ryan Strain is now one of the league’s best right backs having had 3 seasons of regular football. 

If the 01/02/03/04 generation can start to get regular football at 17/18/19 instead of 20/21/22 then their performance outcomes and progression will be markedly better. We are already seeing that in Dukuly, D’Arrigo, King, Nieuwenhof, Kuol, Rawlins, Touré etc. Only a very special player can come into the league at that age and dominate, but talented players invested in with time and patience at that age will only blossom and improve. 

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sportaddict - 4 Jan 2021 11:49 AM
Barca4Life - 4 Jan 2021 11:27 AM

Hopefully. Maybe not necessarily more talented but getting regular football to expedite their improvement and progression at a younger age to maximise their potential. It is clear that when talented players get 2-3 seasons of regular starts they will reach a level where they are amongst the best A-League performers and are capable of attracting overseas attention. Keanu Baccus has now had 2.5 seasons of regular football at the age of 22, and is imo at least the Wanderers’ best midfielder. Louis D’Arrigo at age 19 has had 1, and is already clearly a better player than last season. Ryan Strain is now one of the league’s best right backs having had 3 seasons of regular football. 

If the 01/02/03/04 generation can start to get regular football at 17/18/19 instead of 20/21/22 then their performance outcomes and progression will be markedly better. We are already seeing that in Dukuly, D’Arrigo, King, Nieuwenhof, Kuol, Rawlins, Touré etc. Only a very special player can come into the league at that age and dominate, but talented players invested in with time and patience at that age will only blossom and improve. 

I think the best thing to come out so far is how many of these guys are playing, and playing on a regular basis too something that's been missing even with the current u23 side that not everyone is getting minutes unlike our competition in Asia.

So the fact that some of these younger guys you mentioned which are next in line are already getting game time is quite encouraging for the future of the national teams going forward.

Its a shame a worldwide pandemic has forced these clubs to play young talent, imagine what more teams could do as well and even more could be developed which sounds quite exciting. 

16 aleague teams plus an NSD anyone? 
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sportaddict - 4 Jan 2021 11:49 AM

I think the best thing to come out so far is how many of these guys are playing, and playing on a regular basis too something that's been missing even with the current u23 side that not everyone is getting minutes unlike our competition in Asia.

So the fact that some of these younger guys you mentioned which are next in line are already getting game time is quite encouraging for the future of the national teams going forward.

Its a shame a worldwide pandemic has forced these clubs to play young talent, imagine what more teams could do as well and even more could be developed which sounds quite exciting. 

16 aleague teams plus an NSD anyone? 

If we have a fulltime professional league as a 2nd division we can finally have kids getting 10000 professional minutes by the time they are 20/21 and stop leaving underdone. The a league will go to a new level too since there will be a whole level below it to scout for players
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