I think that is inaccurate. The issue is that there was a 20 year period post-WW2 where there was a massive boost in population in the west. This has combined with a large increase in life expectancy to create a very unusual demographic phenomenon where instead of a demographic pyramid (most people young, relatively few people old) you have this massive bulge of baby boomers feeding through society.

We don't need "perpetually larger populations", we just need enough younger people to make the glut of elderly baby boomers manageable until they die out (in roughly 2050).

You are looking at the issue far too simplistically I think.

Edited by AzzaMarch: 26/11/2015 09:46:52 AM

Farkin reffos.

http://www.theoptimist.com.au/story/3515098/syrian-refugees-become-volunteers-within-a-month-of-arriving-in-australia/?cs=4553

Has anyone heard of that kim vuga ...i reckon its pauline hanson doing an audition for the sequel to white chicks .
[youtube]http://youtu.be/A0fJKcngilI[/youtube]

The west almost runs like a Ponzi scheme. Perpetually needing larger populations to prop up the last. Its unsustainable.

Advanced first world economies don't need such a high population anymore, think about how productive we're becoming per capita and the rise of automation.

Japan has got it spot on tbh.

Despite the fact that Japan is densely populated, they remain one of if not the most advanced civilisation on the planet, very safe, very well deucated, rich as fuck, great health etc. Their population is also expected to fall by 25% over the next few decades or so due to low birth rates. They could easily take way more refugees/immigrants than we could. Way more.

It seems that despite they would benefit in a lot of areas by bringing in a number of immigrants/refugees to help them they still don't do it. The answer is either they don't want to alter their culture and homogeneity and/or they help refugees/immigrants in other ways. :-k

What if I told you, that these refugees are actually running away from horrors, but will stick to their culture and customs, passing them on to their offspring, who will grow up and wonder why they 'don't fit in' only to answer the call of a jihad in another country, only to displace more people and have them migrate. Rinse and repeat.

Wonder where I've heard this story before.

Well, here's a Syrian->

Japan only has one culture though and is one of the most densely populated countries on the planet. Australia has a plethora of differing cultures and is one of the most sparsely populated on the planet. Apples-Oranges .

I do agree though that by taking their best and brightest (typically the most persecuted and willing to flee) it does stifle their development. I read an article about a Polish politician wanting to form an army out of the Syrian refugees and send them off to fight. This is straight up bullshit, but perhaps we could gather the intellectuals of the bunch and use them to develop long thinking economic and social strategies for the region. This would be a much better idea than letting the port and swans blood drinking snobs like David Cameron try to decide how to run a foreign country

Perhaps Japan actually place a value on their culture and homogeneity that they do not wish to undermine and leaders that do not view human beings purely as economic units.

The video is an uncomfortable truth that no matter how many migrants or refugees a wealthy nation can realistically take in, the problem is only getting worse and in fact we are actually hurting those poorer nations by taking their better educated and upwardly mobile.

hopefully the next steve jobs is among the the batch of refugee arrivals

Cool

Steve Jobs was Syrian :)

I'd rather 12000 south Sudanese TBH, why should we favour Syrians?

Plus side is the south Sudanese are Christians and better athletes :p

The idea was proposed then people cried racism :roll:

It would make sense for them all to be Christian for a number of reasons.

Well, SOHR estimates somewhere between 250,000 and 340,000 dead. That's a pretty big scale - 90,000 odd people. I'd say the death toll is easily over 300k though. If this conflict goes on for anther 18-24 months, which in all honesty I see it doing, we could see 500,000 killed.

Yeah that doesn't really help, you need the chart of who did the killing, not who got killed.

mumrubz being the resident retard again...missed your pills again mate? time to go to the quack again.
do you realise your one of the select few i talk to like this?...youre so scatterbrain you wouldnt know if your arthur or martha

Edited by Socawho: 17/11/2015 08:45:33 PM

Your gif doesn't even involve someone getting knocked out rofl.

Late to thread so don't know if it has been brought up but weren't the 12000 all meant to be Christians?

Yes, but most of that is because of the fighting between the govt and the "Rebels".



There is one which shows how many civilians have been killed by which forces but I can't find it, in any case civilians killed by IS is quite low compared to the Govt and Rebels.

Just stopped by to drop in on the usual Socawho trainwreck of a thread to post this.

14th of November Muz said this.

First refugees arrive in Perth

QUICK! THROW ON A WEST COAST EAGLES/ FREMANTLE DOCKERS SUPPORTER KIT ON ONE OF THEM!

Do you like AFL too?

Isn't the death toll in Syria at least 250k now? That's the total death toll, and not just the ones killed by ISIS, but still, that's a lot.

God help both of you.

What are you basing that on? If By civilians killed/taken captive/forced to leave thats not true at all.

IS killed 5000+ yezidis in Iraq with the help of their muslim neighbours.

He may have been a worthy ally :)
I enjoy reading Murdoch Rags posts along these lines.

No he can't make a post without asserting the intellectual superiority of the left leaning population. He also can't make a post without belittling right wing views.

was he an LNP stooge? I own them all the time :)

:roll: you and Ricey MKII should meet