i have mixed feelings about a republic...its good that it hopefully opens a new chapter for indignous recognition and turning over a new leaf...but bad from a law perspective. By that i mean every facet of law would be rejigged to affect day to day livng...i mean where do you stand as a citizen ? , what are your rights?
the cost to the taxpayer would be massive. ...the laws will be rejigged by people who have an agenda for themselves that might not benefit everyone and only their constiuents.
I mean i get sick of Ray Martin telling me whats good for me...and whats not.
Eventually Australia will be a republic no question...but it seems people like Ray Martin want to jump head first without a gradual transition...people like Ray Martin actually turn off people who are undecided

i have mixed feelings about a republic...its good that it hopefully opens a new chapter for indignous recognition and turning over a new leaf...but bad from a law perspective. By that i mean every facet of law would be rejigged to affect day to day livng...i mean where do you stand as a citizen ? , what are your rights?
the cost to the taxpayer would be massive. ...the laws will be rejigged by people who have an agenda for themselves that might not benefit everyone and only their constiuents.
I mean i get sick of Ray Martin telling me whats good for me...and whats not.
Eventually Australia will be a republic no question...but it seems people like Ray Martin want to jump head first without a gradual transition...people like Ray Martin actually turn off people who are undecided

Edited by Socawho: 27/1/2016 12:03:20 PM

I understand the sentiment but in reality life is like this. You can't take advantage of the benefits afforded to you by previous generations without taking on the bad things too.

If you're parents have a home loan and other debts (apart from HECS) when they pass away, that debt gets transferred to you. If the previous generation polluted the waterways meaning there is a shortage of potable water, you have to deal with it and find a solution.

The reality is it barely affects your day to day life and I struggle to understand why it's such an imposition to say "previous generations did horrible things to you and have put you in a shitty situation. We'll do our best to help you". Whether the way we're currently helping is the best way or not is another matter of course.

The good thing about that idea is that we can rig the date so the holiday is at the best time to suit us :) I actually like an late jan/early feb holiday, just not on the 26th for the reasons mentioned many times on this thread!

You worry too much about conspiracy theories. Ray Martin wont be president :)

Speaking solely from my (is shallow the right word?) shallow perspective on it all, my thinking is..
- Good to have it in the summer
- Should be during school holidays so doesn't disrupt school kids and people who have taken time off work already
- Shouldn't be a week either side of Jan 26

So I say we should have it on Jan 16th - that way next year we all get another long weekend! :lol:

#firstworldwhiteprivilegeproblems

you would have as us all live like North Koreans and Venezualans under Commie rule instead lol

#firstworldwhiteprivilegeproblems

Food for thought:

Some of those people who don't like indigenous "whingeing" about Jan 26 say that aborigines should "move on" from "what happened 50+ years ago".

Why can't we, as the rest of society, "move on" from celebrating our national day on Jan 26 to a day that is more inclusive?

50 years ago is a lot closer in time than almost 230 years ago? Why are we so attached to that date?

I find the hypocritical conundrum interesting when the most important thing is the timing of when these white Australians can have another day off and at the same time make an issue about the original owners of this land being 'lazy'.

Food for thought:

Some of those people who don't like indigenous "whingeing" about Jan 26 say that aborigines should "move on" from "what happened 50+ years ago".

Why can't we, as the rest of society, "move on" from celebrating our national day on Jan 26 to a day that is more inclusive?

50 years ago is a lot closer in time than almost 230 years ago? Why are we so attached to that date?

It was only in 1935 that all states and territories started calling it "Australia Day" and apparently only in 1994 did it begin to be a public holiday for all.

Can easily be changed.

John Howard's fault :)

I know it was before you were born so I'll excuse the fact that it's incorrect but no need to try so hard. First day of school a bit boring or you starting tomorrow?

pure :)

Make sure you study hard, otherwise you won't be successful :lol:

Successful like cutting code all day like you? :)
Pizza under the door :)

If you're lucky ;)

It must pay well considering what I can get done by paying Indian folk on freelancer :)

Paying indians to get your school assignments done? You're going to go far in the Liberal party :lol:

You must be a corporate high flyer considering you're still living in hicksville adelaide :)
A real success, cutting code and working on the help desk :)

Who said I was successful? And if I was, I certainly couldn't care enough to prove it to a high school kid on the internet :lol: Anyway if you want to "get out" of Adelaide yourself, my advice still applies.

Apologies to everyone else. Won't be derailing this thread any more :) :)

Edited by mcjules: 27/1/2016 04:17:06 PM

What a meltdown from you.
Perhaps stick to what you know, ie answering phone calls and leave the history lessons to the experts.

Trying to claim Australia Day wasnt a public holiday until 1994, is one of the stupider posts I've read on this forum.

To summarise, New South Wales — Sydney especially — has long celebrated 26 January to mark the beginning of British occupation of Australia. Victoria and the other Australian states and territories, persuaded by the Australian Natives' Association, came to accept Australia Day by 1935, celebrating it together with a long weekend. Since 1979, federal government promotion of an Australia Day that was less British and more Australian gave the day a higher profile in the hope of unifying Australia's increasingly diverse population. The long weekend gave way to the day itself in 1994, and ten years later Canberra displaced Sydney as the day's focal point.

http://www.australiaday.org.au/australia-day/history/australia-day-26-january-a-day-for-all-australians/

Answering phone calls is the new fish and chip shop (sorry PB) :lol:

There's no pride in schooling someone so young so no gloating. Maybe you can impress your teachers with this little tidbit.

It was only in 1935 that all states and territories started calling it "Australia Day" [size=8]and apparently only in 1994 did it begin to be a public holiday for all.[/size]

Can easily be changed.