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TheSelectFew wrote:
No direct link to our glorious club. Really disappointed.
In the end I couldn't bring myself to tamper with the article :oops: o:)
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View from the fence wrote:Quote:
Italian police have arrested 10 people on suspicion of being members of the mafia as part of a probe into soccer match-fixing, investigators in the southern city of Naples said on Monday.
The arrests stem from a probe into two matches in Serie B -- Italy's second-tier championship -- in 2014 that investigators say were rigged.
During the investigation, police uncovered a network linked to a local clan that primarily dealt in drugs but managed to make an illicit profit of 100,000 euros ($112,000) on one rigged match alone, investigators told a televised news conference.
"We can say with certainty that in some soccer teams there are people who don't just kick a ball around on a Sunday but have a series of connections they can use to turn their job into crime," prosecutor Filippo Beatrice said.
Pending their trial, seven of the suspects have been jailed and the remaining three are under house arrest.
A Serie A player is under investigation as part of the same probe but no arrest warrant has been issued for him.
The matches were allegedly organized by a young mafia boss who was arrested earlier this month on suspicion of ordering a machine-gun attack on a police barracks in a suburb of Naples.
Match manipulation has led to large-scale investigations in recent years, including a 2011 probe that led to a criminal trial of dozens of coaches and players. The future coach of English Premier League club Chelsea, Antonio Conte, was cleared last week of any role in the scandal.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-italy-crime-soccer-idUSKCN0YE224?feedType=RSS&feedName=sportsNews&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&dlvrit=255506 No direct link to our glorious club. Really disappointed.
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Back to top wrote:Eastern Glory wrote:This is good...
I'm impressed that. Serie D club has a 30000 capacity stadium...
Also, how can a stadium that big be bought for so little money?!?!
Found the Sales Brochure  Scrap Value of that roof has plummeted recently plus the club don't own it. Edited by Back to top: 15/2/2016 12:37:28 PM this picture is a good selling point for Wanderers alone:lol:
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And Everyone Blamed Clive
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Italian police have arrested 10 people on suspicion of being members of the mafia as part of a probe into soccer match-fixing, investigators in the southern city of Naples said on Monday.
The arrests stem from a probe into two matches in Serie B -- Italy's second-tier championship -- in 2014 that investigators say were rigged.
During the investigation, police uncovered a network linked to a local clan that primarily dealt in drugs but managed to make an illicit profit of 100,000 euros ($112,000) on one rigged match alone, investigators told a televised news conference.
"We can say with certainty that in some soccer teams there are people who don't just kick a ball around on a Sunday but have a series of connections they can use to turn their job into crime," prosecutor Filippo Beatrice said.
Pending their trial, seven of the suspects have been jailed and the remaining three are under house arrest.
A Serie A player is under investigation as part of the same probe but no arrest warrant has been issued for him.
The matches were allegedly organized by a young mafia boss who was arrested earlier this month on suspicion of ordering a machine-gun attack on a police barracks in a suburb of Naples.
Match manipulation has led to large-scale investigations in recent years, including a 2011 probe that led to a criminal trial of dozens of coaches and players. The future coach of English Premier League club Chelsea, Antonio Conte, was cleared last week of any role in the scandal.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-italy-crime-soccer-idUSKCN0YE224?feedType=RSS&feedName=sportsNews&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&dlvrit=255506
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Guiz
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I wonder if you can help me, do you know the date of birth of Mario Biasin?
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inala brah wrote:Eastern Glory wrote:This will have a big impact this offseason I reckon. do you think it's because they are salty about caceres and brattan? how long until the italian club signs someone with a big "sign on bonus" on a low wage and they get sent to MV? Edited by inala brah: 14/4/2016 01:58:42 PM Are you a Victory fan or a city fan? You comment on this thread way more than the city thread.
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100.000 + 250.000 Euro of previous debts, 350.000 basically. He bought it as MET 511 PTY LTD. I’m sure he is thinking of some kind of collaboration, it will stupid not to...
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inala brah wrote:Eastern Glory wrote:This will have a big impact this offseason I reckon. do you think it's because they are salty about caceres and brattan? how long until the italian club signs someone with a big "sign on bonus" on a low wage and they get sent to MV? Edited by inala brah: 14/4/2016 01:58:42 PM Well if you played by those 'rules' why can't we ?
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Eastern Glory wrote:This will have a big impact this offseason I reckon. do you think it's because they are salty about caceres and brattan? how long until the italian club signs someone with a big "sign on bonus" on a low wage and they get sent to MV? Edited by inala brah: 14/4/2016 01:58:42 PM
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Back to top wrote:Guiz wrote:Mario Biasin yesterday bought Triestina as an individual and not as Melbourne Victory. We are all very happy. How much ? €100,000 as club was bankrupt again
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Guiz wrote:Mario Biasin yesterday bought Triestina as an individual and not as Melbourne Victory. We are all very happy. How much ?
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Eastern Glory
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This will have a big impact this offseason I reckon.
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Im surprised Kochie and his afl mates didnt try and put a bid in and convert the populus to the powaaa
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how long until they caceres in some squadies?
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scubaroo wrote:walnuts wrote:waltercombi@hotmail.com wrote:why don't they just do that with an chinese team since they are all migrating there to earn obscene amounts? Couple of reasons for that I think: 1) Both the prospective owners are of Italian heritage (Di Pietro and Biasin) with Biasin actually having been born in Trieste before emigrating to Australia as a young boy. Obviously a bit of a pull back to the 'Mother country'. 2) With the current economic climate in Europe I'd actually say it's a lot cheaper to buy a European club then it is a Chinese one, especially now that Chinese clubs are almost expected to start splashing the cash. Would a Chinese team and its' fans be content with the team languishing in the bottom tiers of football to be used as a loophole for an Australian club? 3) I am about 87% sure there are rules dictating that the same owners can't own different clubs in the same confederation. Hopefully someone can confirm that for me, but I am pretty confident on that. 4) The Chinese Government and culture is a pain to deal with from a business sense, especially for non-Chinese heritage people. Just easier to work in Europe. 5) Triestina could be used as a stepping stone into Europe for young, promising Australian players who don't have an EU passport. This part is pure speculation, but getting payers into Europe should still be the number one priority for Australian clubs, and owning Triestina would help this. Just some thoughts on why I reckon they've decided to go to Serie D rather than look in their own backyard. Hope this helps :) Number 3. The bakries own/owned teams in both Australia and Indonesia at the same time but the killer is City Group own Melbourne City and Yokohama F. Marinos. Edited by scubaroo: 14/4/2016 09:04:13 AM City own a minority stake at marinos. Probably how they got away with it.
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walnuts wrote:waltercombi@hotmail.com wrote:why don't they just do that with an chinese team since they are all migrating there to earn obscene amounts? Couple of reasons for that I think: 1) Both the prospective owners are of Italian heritage (Di Pietro and Biasin) with Biasin actually having been born in Trieste before emigrating to Australia as a young boy. Obviously a bit of a pull back to the 'Mother country'. 2) With the current economic climate in Europe I'd actually say it's a lot cheaper to buy a European club then it is a Chinese one, especially now that Chinese clubs are almost expected to start splashing the cash. Would a Chinese team and its' fans be content with the team languishing in the bottom tiers of football to be used as a loophole for an Australian club? 3) I am about 87% sure there are rules dictating that the same owners can't own different clubs in the same confederation. Hopefully someone can confirm that for me, but I am pretty confident on that. 4) The Chinese Government and culture is a pain to deal with from a business sense, especially for non-Chinese heritage people. Just easier to work in Europe. 5) Triestina could be used as a stepping stone into Europe for young, promising Australian players who don't have an EU passport. This part is pure speculation, but getting payers into Europe should still be the number one priority for Australian clubs, and owning Triestina would help this. Just some thoughts on why I reckon they've decided to go to Serie D rather than look in their own backyard. Hope this helps :) Number 3. The bakries own/owned teams in both Australia and Indonesia at the same time but the killer is City Group own Melbourne City and Yokohama F. Marinos. Edited by scubaroo: 14/4/2016 09:04:13 AM
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Guiz wrote:Mario Biasin yesterday bought Triestina as an individual and not as Melbourne Victory. We are all very happy. Spero che xe un bon mulo o:)
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Ah no. He bought it with the consortium
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Mario Biasin yesterday bought Triestina as an individual and not as Melbourne Victory. We are all very happy.
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The auction for the club will be on the 12th of April. We wonder if Biasin and Di Pietro still interested as we heard nothing at all from them. But surely if the deal doesn’t go through Mauro Milanese (Biasin’s cousin) may have to move to Australia himself...
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walnuts wrote:waltercombi@hotmail.com wrote:why don't they just do that with an chinese team since they are all migrating there to earn obscene amounts? Couple of reasons for that I think: 1) Both the prospective owners are of Italian heritage (Di Pietro and Biasin) with Biasin actually having been born in Trieste before emigrating to Australia as a young boy. Obviously a bit of a pull back to the 'Mother country'. 2) With the current economic climate in Europe I'd actually say it's a lot cheaper to buy a European club then it is a Chinese one, especially now that Chinese clubs are almost expected to start splashing the cash. Would a Chinese team and its' fans be content with the team languishing in the bottom tiers of football to be used as a loophole for an Australian club? 3) I am about 87% sure there are rules dictating that the same owners can't own different clubs in the same confederation. Hopefully someone can confirm that for me, but I am pretty confident on that. 4) The Chinese Government and culture is a pain to deal with from a business sense, especially for non-Chinese heritage people. Just easier to work in Europe. 5) Triestina could be used as a stepping stone into Europe for young, promising Australian players who don't have an EU passport. This part is pure speculation, but getting payers into Europe should still be the number one priority for Australian clubs, and owning Triestina would help this. Just some thoughts on why I reckon they've decided to go to Serie D rather than look in their own backyard. Hope this helps :) Point 5 is the big one for me. Get the #products into Europe especially if we can get Trieste back up to Serie B at some stage
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waltercombi@hotmail.com wrote:well the salary cap in OZ is probably higher than the one of Triestina. Consider that serie D stands for "dilettante" meaning non professional. The get a sort of refund of a few bucks to train and play, a few meals and that's that. They are part time players basically collecting a couple of hundred euros per week....if that (average wage in Italy is about 1300 per month).
The serie C players, the first "step" to professional football playing, get anything like 3000 to 6000 per month (consider the cost of living in Trieste is super-cheap, buy a flat for 40 grand) and if you reach serie B it's anything between 5 to sometimes 20,000 if you are a top striker. Serie A of course is where the cash is but that still depends on the club. Empoli pays 50 times less what a Juventus payer earns. In regards to your explanation it does actually makes sense if they bring Triestina in the top flight and then "lend" players to Melbourne although my question is: why don't they just do that with an chinese team since they are all migrating there to earn obscene amounts? Cheers for the conversation and thank you for having me here. I've been saying for years that Aussie soccer (football) is brilliant (been in europe 20 years) and it would only be a matter of time before we see real stars coming from oz (apart from the obvious ones like kewell, viduka, lazaridis etc etc) The reason they can't do that is because any player loaned to an Australian Club must have their whole wage included in the salary cap (2.5m per season?). That why, for these guys, it makes sense to sign them at another club, and pay them a very big sign on bonus to compensate them for the low wage that they'll put them on, and then loan them to the Australian club, so then of course their low salary doesn't affect the wage budget very much.
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Personally I think is very much a matter of heart, especially for Biasin, maybe later the business part of it would come into play, but at this moment in time I reckon nothing has been planned yet. Remember that the guy in charge of running the team is Mauro Milanese and he’s very close to his cousin Mario.
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waltercombi@hotmail.com wrote:why don't they just do that with an chinese team since they are all migrating there to earn obscene amounts? Couple of reasons for that I think: 1) Both the prospective owners are of Italian heritage (Di Pietro and Biasin) with Biasin actually having been born in Trieste before emigrating to Australia as a young boy. Obviously a bit of a pull back to the 'Mother country'. 2) With the current economic climate in Europe I'd actually say it's a lot cheaper to buy a European club then it is a Chinese one, especially now that Chinese clubs are almost expected to start splashing the cash. Would a Chinese team and its' fans be content with the team languishing in the bottom tiers of football to be used as a loophole for an Australian club? 3) I am about 87% sure there are rules dictating that the same owners can't own different clubs in the same confederation. Hopefully someone can confirm that for me, but I am pretty confident on that. 4) The Chinese Government and culture is a pain to deal with from a business sense, especially for non-Chinese heritage people. Just easier to work in Europe. 5) Triestina could be used as a stepping stone into Europe for young, promising Australian players who don't have an EU passport. This part is pure speculation, but getting payers into Europe should still be the number one priority for Australian clubs, and owning Triestina would help this. Just some thoughts on why I reckon they've decided to go to Serie D rather than look in their own backyard. Hope this helps :)
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well the salary cap in OZ is probably higher than the one of Triestina. Consider that serie D stands for "dilettante" meaning non professional. The get a sort of refund of a few bucks to train and play, a few meals and that's that. They are part time players basically collecting a couple of hundred euros per week....if that (average wage in Italy is about 1300 per month).
The serie C players, the first "step" to professional football playing, get anything like 3000 to 6000 per month (consider the cost of living in Trieste is super-cheap, buy a flat for 40 grand) and if you reach serie B it's anything between 5 to sometimes 20,000 if you are a top striker. Serie A of course is where the cash is but that still depends on the club. Empoli pays 50 times less what a Juventus payer earns. In regards to your explanation it does actually makes sense if they bring Triestina in the top flight and then "lend" players to Melbourne although my question is: why don't they just do that with an chinese team since they are all migrating there to earn obscene amounts? Cheers for the conversation and thank you for having me here. I've been saying for years that Aussie soccer (football) is brilliant (been in europe 20 years) and it would only be a matter of time before we see real stars coming from oz (apart from the obvious ones like kewell, viduka, lazaridis etc etc)
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waltercombi@hotmail.com wrote:Prosecutor wrote:Eastern Glory wrote:This is good...
I'm impressed that. Serie D club has a 30000 capacity stadium...
Also, how can a stadium that big be bought for so little money?!?!
Edited by eastern glory: 15/2/2016 11:57:17 AM Pretty cool stadium I must admit:  Because The team went bankrupt. The stadium was built over 20 years ago when in professional football with the prospect of reaching Serie A. They were nearly there twice but unfortunately missed out by a pubic hair ("political actions" helped Napoli and left Triestina in serie B). Also, the stadium belongs to the city council, not the Football club. Triestina pays an annual rent ( and not a very big sum honestly) and plays there. All stadiums in Italy apart from a few, are actually owned by the local authorities. The stadium is cool, I've seen Milan play Ajax there ages ago. Edited by waltercombi@hotmail.com: 17/2/2016 10:30:10 PM Great post, welcome to the forum. In regards to your other post, we can only speculate, but most people in Australia seem to think that they have bought the club in order to use a loophole in the A-League salary cap (something their local rivals have done) by signing players with large sign on bonuses and low wages at a foreign club (this Italian club) and the. Loaning them to their own Australian club. I'm not sure what that means for the Italian club (only they can answer that question), but I doubt they've bought it with the purpose pumping money into it.
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Hello Everybody.
I live in Italy but I'm Australian. Can anybody give me any news or what the word on the street is there in Melbourne, about the Victory owners helping Triestina football club? I can't seem to find any news on the subject and I'm interested to know what's happening. All I get is some small regional news from Trieste but no more than that.
Any help?
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Prosecutor wrote:Eastern Glory wrote:This is good...
I'm impressed that. Serie D club has a 30000 capacity stadium...
Also, how can a stadium that big be bought for so little money?!?!
Edited by eastern glory: 15/2/2016 11:57:17 AM Pretty cool stadium I must admit: Because The team went bankrupt. The stadium was built over 20 years ago when in professional football with the prospect of reaching Serie A. They were nearly there twice but unfortunately missed out by a pubic hair ("political actions" helped Napoli and left Triestina in serie B). Also, the stadium belongs to the city council, not the Football club. Triestina pays an annual rent ( and not a very big sum honestly) and plays there. All stadiums in Italy apart from a few, are actually owned by the local authorities. The stadium is cool, I've seen Milan play Ajax there ages ago. Edited by waltercombi@hotmail.com: 17/2/2016 10:30:10 PM
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mcjules wrote:paulc wrote:Coincidentally I was in Trieste a few months ago in between resorts. Wonderful place and wonderful people. Everyone needs to put it on their travel itinerary :) Shame we don't go travelling every time our team gets pumped :lol: o:) -PB
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I’m pleased of hear that. Hopefully they will become our owner, at the moment they are running the club together with a judge. In 40 to 60 days should be an auction, and they’re strong favorites.
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