The Melbourne Victory Supporters Thread 2.0


The Melbourne Victory Supporters Thread 2.0

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sub007 - 8 Aug 2024 4:09 PM
someguyjc - 8 Aug 2024 2:37 PM

If you guys aren’t playing a front two, then why bother signing Jing Reec then? All that does is stunt his development and waste some money.

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Monoethnic Social Club - 8 Aug 2024 10:49 AM

Yeah it’s a signing that doesn’t really make sense.

I look forward to him absolutely destroying Adelaide this season then. 


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tsf - 8 Aug 2024 9:10 PM
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I look forward to him absolutely destroying Adelaide this season then. 


Our defence has been appalling for 5 years so that’s not exactly a high bar
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Quicky - 8 Aug 2024 7:53 PM
Melbcityguy - 8 Aug 2024 9:52 AM

The squad is shaping up. I think we have good forward options especially if Vergos pans out.

Our defence is a lot weaker without Da Silva. Although Hamill and Miranda formed a good partnership before Hamill went to India.

Our midfield is okay. I like Teague a lot. Machach is good but can be hot and cold. Outside of that Valadon and Monge are young and promising. It lacks a little bit and I'd expect we try to strengthen it. Or maybe we'll bank on the youth. 

Out of curiosity, what formation did Kisnorbo favour?

4-2-3-1 at City.

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Quicky - 8 Aug 2024 7:59 PM
tsf - 8 Aug 2024 10:35 AM

Neither have I. He's played at Olympiacos and Panathinaikos which are big clubs. It'll be interesting how it pans out. In the AL I reckon its a lot about attitude. If he comes here and is serious he could surprise a few. 

Hahahaha "played" at OSFP and Panathinaikos? hahahaha mate he was a benchie that got loaned out .. Sort of like Fornorli and Barbarousses stints at Panathinakois... nothing but splinters from the pine.... 
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Monoethnic Social Club - 9 Aug 2024 10:20 AM
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Hahahaha "played" at OSFP and Panathinaikos? hahahaha mate he was a benchie that got loaned out .. Sort of like Fornorli and Barbarousses stints at Panathinakois... nothing but splinters from the pine.... 

Don't forget Real Madrid B haha. Vergos wouldn't be the first visa player to come to the AL with a mixed club career. Some of those players have been the best visa signings. Players with more fancied careers have flopped. It's a coin toss with these signings so I'm keeping an open mind until I see him play. 
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Quicky - 9 Aug 2024 1:27 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 9 Aug 2024 10:20 AM

Don't forget Real Madrid B haha. Vergos wouldn't be the first visa player to come to the AL with a mixed club career. Some of those players have been the best visa signings. Players with more fancied careers have flopped. It's a coin toss with these signings so I'm keeping an open mind until I see him play. 

:) I hope he is a gun for you too mate... maybe you are right, Australian defences are relatively easy to crack for some of these overseas players... Either way looks like Victory have gone "all in" with the cash .
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Monoethnic Social Club - 9 Aug 2024 1:56 PM
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:) I hope he is a gun for you too mate... maybe you are right, Australian defences are relatively easy to crack for some of these overseas players... Either way looks like Victory have gone "all in" with the cash .

If the Australia Cup is anything to go by, it's been pretty easy for the NPL boys too. Even the A-League clubs that have won their games, haven't been able to keep clean sheets.
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Goodwin rumour? 
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tsf - 9 Aug 2024 3:23 PM
Goodwin rumour? 

I'd love to hear more about this!
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Monoethnic Social Club - 9 Aug 2024 1:56 PM
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:) I hope he is a gun for you too mate... maybe you are right, Australian defences are relatively easy to crack for some of these overseas players... Either way looks like Victory have gone "all in" with the cash .

I'd take what the media says with a grain of salt. I reckon they often imbellish salaries for the story.

That said some big salaries just walked out of the club and the incomings would be modest by comparison.

The unknown is how much revenue has been lost via 777 + the tv rights stuff. On balance my feel is  theres been a decrease in spending do far, albeit there's time for more signings. 
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the greek division is pretty good and it is statistically better at adding value to players than norway, scotland and sweden. He got something like 1500 minutes last season and is near his prime

I would expect him to be well above average at a league level
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Bonevacia and Bozinovski will depart when their contracts expire. I'd expect us to bring in some more midfielders and CBs. 
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grazorblade - 9 Aug 2024 6:04 PM
the greek division is pretty good and it is statistically better at adding value to players than norway, scotland and sweden. He got something like 1500 minutes last season and is near his prime

I would expect him to be well above average at a league level

Top 5-6 clubs play decent football in Greece, the rest is WAY below Aleague level... 

Your boy scored 5 goals in 1500 minutes, against such powerhouses of Greek football as Giannina (look at that defensive record) with the others in the cup against 2nd and 3rd division sides.... Not even I think the Aleague is that bad. 




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Almost HT and Victory up 2-0 v Altona Magic. Vellupillay and Piscopo with the goals. Vergos is debuting. Bos has been preffered to Traore at LB in pre-season so far. 
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Just seen that Arzani was on the bench again (on in the second half) and Teague not on the bench at all, are they on the outer? 

Same with Bruno on the bench on in the second half, and Folami not in the team either. 

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If they're dumping Teague I'm gonna spew

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Barca4Life - 14 Aug 2024 8:47 PM
Just seen that Arzani was on the bench again (on in the second half) and Teague not on the bench at all, are they on the outer? 

Same with Bruno on the bench on in the second half, and Folami not in the team either. 

I don't know why Teague wasn't in the team/bench but there is a 0% chance it's because he's on the outer. I would guess it's because of injury or management.

Likewise with Arzani, but there is lots of competition for wide forwards so I expect rotation. I think Arzani will be a starter. 

Fornaroli, dunno, he's getting on in age so I think will play less.

Folami is a curious one actually. He didn't play a lot last year. 
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HappyGuus - 14 Aug 2024 8:58 PM
If they're dumping Teague I'm gonna spew

No way. Not gonna happen. 
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Game finished 2-0. 
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We need CBs. I would love us to get someone like Deng back from Japan. 
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tsf - 9 Aug 2024 3:23 PM
Goodwin rumour? 

This is the only place that I’ve seen this.

At the Adelaide member’s forum last night, the CEO (John Kosmina’s son) was openly talking about the possibility of Craig Goodwin returning to Adelaide.
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Quicky - 14 Aug 2024 9:41 PM
HappyGuus - 14 Aug 2024 8:58 PM

No way. Not gonna happen. 

I have heard people saying Kisnorbo doesn't like him and is trying to get rid of him. Which seems insane and doesn't make any sense 
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tsf - 16 Aug 2024 9:55 PM
Quicky - 14 Aug 2024 9:41 PM

I have heard people saying Kisnorbo doesn't like him and is trying to get rid of him. Which seems insane and doesn't make any sense 

I mean if that's Kisnorbo's take I reckon we're in for some trouble. 
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Quicky - 14 Aug 2024 9:40 PM
Barca4Life - 14 Aug 2024 8:47 PM

I don't know why Teague wasn't in the team/bench but there is a 0% chance it's because he's on the outer. I would guess it's because of injury or management.

Likewise with Arzani, but there is lots of competition for wide forwards so I expect rotation. I think Arzani will be a starter. 

Fornaroli, dunno, he's getting on in age so I think will play less.

Folami is a curious one actually. He didn't play a lot last year. 

It’s good to get some context on this, Arzani also got only 5 minutes in the Aus Cup with that young player playing ahead of him in that game so it will be interesting what happens but I agree I can’t see him being left out for too long.

But the Teague omission is something to keep an eye on I think, he’s too good of a player to be left out as well.
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Barca4Life - 17 Aug 2024 12:02 AM
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It’s good to get some context on this, Arzani also got only 5 minutes in the Aus Cup with that young player playing ahead of him in that game so it will be interesting what happens but I agree I can’t see him being left out for too long.

But the Teague omission is something to keep an eye on I think, he’s too good of a player to be left out as well.

Have you heard anything about Teague? That would make our midfield Machach, Valadon, Monge with no depth behind that atm. 
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These rumours have been around so I don't think his omission is a coincidence 
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Victory 4-0 up vs Spirit. 
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Vellupillay goal: 
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