If Ange quits...who is your choice


If Ange quits...who is your choice

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Derider - 19 Nov 2017 12:21 PM
Both Queiroz and Van Marwijk are very conservative coaches who play an ultra defensive, shamelessly negative style. It would be Verbeek all over again. No thanks. It would clearly be a massive step backwards.  It's a shame so many people here actively want us to revert to that dross. 

I think Queiroz is clearly a good coach but it would be a shame if all the graft Ange and the team have gone through to develop an attacking style was to be thrown out with a new coach. I think we need to choose a coach to fit the style, not a style to fit the coach.
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At least common sense has prevailed and he will male a decision this week according to reports

http://indianexpress.com/article/sports/football/australia-coach-ange-postecoglou-to-decide-future-this-week-4944439/



....... at least we can hope any way. 

IMO it would be ridiculous if Ange went to Russia to attend the draw only to quit shortly after. (not saying they would find a replacement before that)
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New manager available

Breaking: Tony Pulis has been sacked as West Bromwich Albion manager after a run of 10 league games without a win.


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scott21 - 20 Nov 2017 9:28 PM
New manager available

Breaking: Tony Pulis has been sacked as West Bromwich Albion manager after a run of 10 league games without a win.


https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/kewell-makes-statement-after-bust-up-with-fans-477944

Harry will be available soon.




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We have now qualified, but why is Ange still not letting us know what his plans are?   Could it be that he's waiting on that lucrative offer from some club in Shanghai or Glasgow? And if he doesn't end up getting the offer,  he'll make the announcement that his heart is with Australia and he'll take the Socceroos to the world cup? Is the Socceroos just his fall-back plan?

I don't know what to guess anymore, but if he was to leave .... or if FFA was to sack him right now,,, we should get someone who is willing to stay to see through the world cup and take us to defend the Asian Cup title.   Seriously, what is Hiddink doing these days?

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newton_circus - 21 Nov 2017 12:18 AM
We have now qualified, but why is Ange still not letting us know what his plans are?   Could it be that he's waiting on that lucrative offer from some club in Shanghai or Glasgow? And if he doesn't end up getting the offer,  he'll make the announcement that his heart is with Australia and he'll take the Socceroos to the world cup? Is the Socceroos just his fall-back plan?

I don't know what to guess anymore, but if he was to leave .... or if FFA was to sack him right now,,, we should get someone who is willing to stay to see through the world cup and take us to defend the Asian Cup title.   Seriously, what is Hiddink doing these days?

He may wait to see what the draw is and see what effect it will have on his #legacy
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I am not sure it is entirely correct to judge Arnold on that previous stint. He must have learnt since then and be a better coach.

there is no way that someone could actually get better at something after ten years of experience.
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I'm keen to see Ange stay. He has done all the hard work. Ange deserves the Russian gig. 

Only 32 head coaches go to any World Cup.

There are about 170 odd head coaches coaching top teams in the world's top seven top leagues and others that coach regular UEFA Champ and Europa League football.


Most want to be involved in the world's biggest sporting event. Guus didn't want to miss out in 2006.
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Decentric - 21 Nov 2017 7:47 AM
I'm keen to see Ange stay. He has done all the hard work. Ange deserves the Russian gig. 
 

Osieck did all the hard work and deserved to go to Russia. 

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newton_circus - 21 Nov 2017 12:18 AM
We have now qualified, but why is Ange still not letting us know what his plans are?   Could it be that he's waiting on that lucrative offer from some club in Shanghai or Glasgow? And if he doesn't end up getting the offer,  he'll make the announcement that his heart is with Australia and he'll take the Socceroos to the world cup? Is the Socceroos just his fall-back plan?

I don't know what to guess anymore, but if he was to leave .... or if FFA was to sack him right now,,, we should get someone who is willing to stay to see through the world cup and take us to defend the Asian Cup title.   Seriously, what is Hiddink doing these days?

I don't think he wants to leave. It makes no sense to go through all the regeneration, developing 'his' game plan/style of play/system, taking the team right through the qualifiers to just chuck it all in with the big prize only 7 months away. He took a new 'green' team to the 2014 WC, did pretty well in a tough group, won the Asian Cup, and got us to 2018 (albeit the long way). Surely he'd want to have a crack at the WC again with his 'mature/regenerated' team that he's been preparing for this competition?

Thats also got to be the reason he wouldn't answer the questions about his future - He really doesn't know. He wants to stay but there is something making him think that it might be untenable to continue. Whether that's an FFA thing, or a family/personal thing remains to be seen.

Its not a job offer. If they are there now they'll be there after the WC, and it stands to reason that if the 'roos do ok, those offers will only improve. Can't see Ange being worried that a bad performance at the cup might hurt his future job prospects. In fact I'm sure he'd back himself on that outcome.

Has to be a significant personal issue or something to do with the FFA or the job itself.

Maybe he's not well?



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I don't think he wants to leave. It makes no sense to go through all the regeneration, developing 'his' game plan/style of play/system, taking the team right through the qualifiers to just chuck it all in with the big prize only 7 months away. He took a new 'green' team to the 2014 WC, did pretty well in a tough group, won the Asian Cup, and got us to 2018 (albeit the long way). Surely he'd want to have a crack at the WC again with his 'mature/regenerated' team that he's been preparing for this competition?

Thats also got to be the reason he wouldn't answer the questions about his future - He really doesn't know. He wants to stay but there is something making him think that it might be untenable to continue. Whether that's an FFA thing, or a family/personal thing remains to be seen.

Its not a job offer. If they are there now they'll be there after the WC, and it stands to reason that if the 'roos do ok, those offers will only improve. Can't see Ange being worried that a bad performance at the cup might hurt his future job prospects. In fact I'm sure he'd back himself on that outcome.

Has to be a significant personal issue or something to do with the FFA or the job itself.

Maybe he's not well?




Hadn't thought he was sick, but he could be.

I'm pretty sure Ange has indicated the problem lies with FFA - Gallop and Lowy.
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newton_circus - 21 Nov 2017 12:18 AM
We have now qualified, but why is Ange still not letting us know what his plans are?   Could it be that he's waiting on that lucrative offer from some club in Shanghai or Glasgow? And if he doesn't end up getting the offer,  he'll make the announcement that his heart is with Australia and he'll take the Socceroos to the world cup? Is the Socceroos just his fall-back plan?

I don't know what to guess anymore, but if he was to leave .... or if FFA was to sack him right now,,, we should get someone who is willing to stay to see through the world cup and take us to defend the Asian Cup title.   Seriously, what is Hiddink doing these days?

He wants to know who his bosses will be in December.
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Why would Ange not take us to the world cup? Seriously does he honestly believe he'll get a bigger gig than this? 

Someone should seriously sit him down and explain he may never get a chance to do this again.

He earned it. He should fucking finish it. 

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sydneyfc1987 - 21 Nov 2017 9:37 PM
Why would Ange not take us to the world cup? Seriously does he honestly believe he'll get a bigger gig than this? 

Someone should seriously sit him down and explain he may never get a chance to do this again.

He earned it. He should fucking finish it. 

Still a decent chance that we might get an 'easy' group compared to 2010 and 2014, and get the chance to get into the Round of 16.


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Ange Postecoglou’s future no clear despite talks with FFA

THE future of Ange Postecoglou remains up in the air despite several hours of talks between the Socceroos boss and Football Federation Australia CEO David Gallop on Tuesday.

As Postecoglou continues to wrestle with the question of whether he will continue in the role, and take Australia to the World Cup, FFA sought clarity over the situation now that qualification for the tournament in Russia has been secured.

Gallop and Postecoglou held lengthy discussions on Tuesday afternoon at FFA headquarters, just days before a delegation from the Socceroos has to travel to Russia for the World Cup draw next week.

MATILDAS: Kerr destined for even greater things

Postecoglou hasn’t finalised his goodbye yet. (AAP Image/David Moir)

Postecoglou is meant to be part of that, travelling to Moscow via Bangkok where he has been nominated for Asian Coach of the Year in a ceremony on November 29. If he decides to quit the national team, assistant coach Ante Milicic is likely to go in his place.

Speculation has swirled around Postecoglou’s future since the playoff games with Syria last month, when he failed to deny reports that he was poised to walk away once last week’s tie with Honduras was complete.

Despite his success in winning the Asian Cup and navigating the qualification path to the World Cup, it’s believed he has been seeking a club job for the new year.

Online polls have shown public backing for him continuing, but Postecoglou said on Sunday that he had to weigh up a host of factors including personal, family and professional considerations, in making his decision.

Once the World Cup draw is out of the way the next pressing commitment is a friendly in March, with many of the logistical arrangements for the World Cup itself, including a team hotel and training ground, already locked down.


Ange Postecoglou Socceroos contract no clearer after FFA talks | The Courier-Mail


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Probably waiting to see if the FIFA normalisation committee comes in. If they do, he will stick around since his main obstacles would be gone.
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hames_jetfield - 21 Nov 2017 10:31 PM
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Still a decent chance that we might get an 'easy' group compared to 2010 and 2014, and get the chance to get into the Round of 16.

Naaah

Go on Ange, sign with Rangers and quit within the year after all the unfounded pressure. Im sure after that you'll get a chance to coach your country at the World Cup.

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But that's the thing. He is walking away from his dream job and if he does, it will show how toxic the situation is.

Or he is just being precious after all the bad press in the past.
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Robert Mugabe is looking for a job......

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Podiacide - 22 Nov 2017 9:20 AM
Robert Mugabe is looking for a job......

... or Malcolm Turnbull? He did seem enthusiastic about Jedi's 'captains knock' against Honduras. Might have to get half time extended to half an hour to fit his talk in tho'.

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Will be sad losing Graham. 

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Here's hoping those that incompetent twat Gallop has Ancelotti on speed dial.

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Poppa will come back from Turkey to take the job.
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Sooner or later it will all come out in the wash. Probably waiting for FIFA to oust these fools before he reveals all.
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southmelb - 22 Nov 2017 9:54 AM
Sooner or later it will all come out in the wash. Probably waiting for FIFA to oust these fools before he reveals all.

Then why leave before then?
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Do not trust ffa to get this right. Hope there is some goodwill  with ange to pick his successor otherwise i can see ffa picking some dutch 2nd division nobody journeyman, or jorge pinto
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Redcarded - 22 Nov 2017 11:03 AM
Do not trust ffa to get this right. Hope there is some goodwill  with ange to pick his successor otherwise i can see ffa picking some dutch 2nd division nobody journeyman, or jorge pinto

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It’s tricky. We need someone who plays the same way that the team does (why oh why did Wanderers steal gombau). Arnie or Muscat aren’t the right people. Popas side is struggling and fin he gets the sack maybe we go him even if again not sure if he’s the right person.

But going abroad for a manager then has to learn from the beginning.

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