If Ange quits...who is your choice


If Ange quits...who is your choice

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Delorean time - get Hiddink in!
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The guy keeps building dynasties every where he goes.

In actually think it s a good thing.  No chance he was getting us a point in Russia.
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phreeky - 22 Nov 2017 5:26 PM
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The world wide search will end with either Muscat or Arnold.

Known and cheap >>>> unknown and expensive

If it's Muscat I'd almost find myself supporting the opposition. Why would we consider one of the biggest dickheads in Australian football as our national coach? He comes pre-hated by a huge number of fans already. Oh and he isn't even doing that well, let us not forget that.
whatever you think of him it's hard to say he's incompetent, Victory have barely had a game with their full team together this season tbh. would be mildly fascinating to see how he would go but he'd have to tone down his constant yammer at the 4th official if he was at the world cup 


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alvn1 - 22 Nov 2017 7:11 PM
phreeky - 22 Nov 2017 5:26 PM
whatever you think of him it's hard to say he's incompetent, Victory have barely had a game with their full team together this season tbh. would be mildly fascinating to see how he would go but he'd have to tone down his constant yammer at the 4th official if he was at the world cup 


"He is incompetent". That wasn't hard at all! 
Will support another team if he is ever selected to coach our country. Doesn't deserve it. Hasn't earned it.

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Arnold MkII

Ryan
Jurman Sainsbury Wilkinson Gersbach
Leckie Mooy Jedinak Rogic Ibini
Juric 



And yeah FFS Brandan O'Neill on the bench. 
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Starting to drift towards Klinsmann. Two world cups and both with youthful squads plus a few veterans. A bit like any squad I guess. He lives in California and is very comfortable there.

Van Marwijk would be good regardless of his style. Being a bit more careful at the back would help this side plus he got one decent attacking play out of Saudi Arabia.

Managers such as Tuchel, Biesla and Ancelotti would be extremely unlikely. Koeman isn't a bad option. De Boer is underdeveloped. 

To my knowledge the FFA are quite tight and wouldn't want to offer the money such big names would command. In fearing some random French manager at a cheap rate. 
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I still want Hasse Backe. He was  the Swedish guy with white hair that almost got killed after they charged the panel and knocked Italy out. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Backe

Wouldnt be that expensive and is very good at tactics and analysis. MIght be hard to get him away from his tv gig though. 
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I think one of the biggest concerns leading up to who we get is who is making the decision? Is anyone advising Lowy and Gallop or are they just making a decision themselves?

For all the great names suggested, there is a serious chance we could end up with an absolute dud.


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Arnold had a breakdown live on air less than 2 years ago. Im not sure he has recovered. 

Since the breakdown he has been winning. What will happen when he starts losing again?


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He will only have 2-3 games in the lead-up and 3 games in the WC.

Arnie and Gombau should be towards the top of the local list. I would seriously look at Merrick before Muscat.
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german and dutch coaches will have an ingrained condescension translating to low expectation for the australian NT and would be indifferent about losses so long as they're paid, they'll just say something to the effect of "no one expects much of australia, it's not my fault, their players just aren't good enough". How about someone with a bit of emotional investment in the team.
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alvn1 - 22 Nov 2017 8:34 PM
german and dutch coaches will have an ingrained condescension translating to low expectation for the australian NT and would be indifferent about losses so long as they're paid, they'll just say something to the effect of "no one expects much of australia, it's not my fault, they're players just aren't good enough". How about someone with a bit of emotional investment in the team.

This guy?

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Miguel Herrera, Mexicos coach at the last WC. Purely for the sideline antics.

 



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this close to the finals with this little money, forget strategy, tactics, formation, if you cant get ernie then just get the mentalist c**t you can find in to fire them up.
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frankstoncity83 - 22 Nov 2017 12:55 PM
This guy. The man. The legend. The tyke. He even managed to put Latvia on the map. He will get the best out of every player:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYGostGh55Q


Neil Warnock!!!!! 

Looks like we've found our man.




By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.

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Klinsman would be terrible. Just throws together a team and sends them out there with minimal instruction or prep and then blames the players when they underperform. He was hated by the players in the US and left commentators confused by his choices. Just do a search on his reign in the US and you won't find many, if any fans. He is a big name only, but sounds like a terrible coach who would drag Australian football backwards at a great speed. I read a great article last year highlighting all that was wrong, but of course I can't find it now, but basically he would be a mess. 

Bert Van Marwijk, well my only real memory of him was the 2010 world cup when he was the dutch coach. They made it to the final to be beaten by Spain, but the big thing was that everyone was saying that they were playing a very non-dutch style. A 4-2-3-1 formation built on a solid defense, but lacking in attacking flair playing almost stodgy football win at all costs. Great man manager though, which works with a dutch team filled with giant egos. He might have changed since then, but from memory he wouldn't be building on Anges work.

Biela. Great, attacking football. However, the 442 forum would absolutely hate him because he likes to play a 3-3-3-1 formation. that's right...three at the back....
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Gombau is the only realistic option I'd be excited about. 
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Henk Ten Cate. Was the strategist to Rijkaards motivator at Barcelona when he was assistant there, and also assistant to Avram Grant in Chelsea. Was doing pretty well at Panathaikos until they found that because of the greek financial crisis they had no money. Since then he has been in the middle east, so is aware of asian football. Then again, he might just be happy to soak up petro dollars before retiring
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Fair comments on Klinsmann. He did well to build up Germany but Löw took them to the next level. USA was odd during his tenure. 
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Wayne Bennett 
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It just can’t be an Australian at this stage, sad but true.
Annie isn’t a great coach (I could just about coach that Sydney FC side to a title), just because he’s loves by the media means absolutely nothing about his quality. Yes he has experience, but remember the Asian Cup in 2007, he wasn’t respected by the squad. I agree that he’s a better coach today than back then, but not good enough for international level IMO.
Muscat shouldn’t even be in this discusssion, the guy has no plan B and a long way to go. Milicic has never coached senior football, being an assistant is a completely different job. Not saying he couldn’t do the job, but we just don’t know. And who would give the coaching job at international level to a rookie? Don’t think so!
Popovic will be back home shortly, probably unemployed, as his Turkish side are second from bottom, and will probably be fighting relegation all season long. Not exactly a great endorsement for the next Socceroos boss!

The only option we have today is a foreign coach, and there’s a few candidates. I’ve already given my opinion on this, I think Carlos Queiros is the outstanding candidate for us, for many reasons. But he has qualified Iran for Russia 2018, so not sure if he’d leave them now.
Somebody mentioned that he’s a defensive coach, I can tell you he’s definitely not, but with not exactly a star studded Iranian team, he’s had to change his style a bit, and be pragmatic. Having said that, he’s qualified them for every possible tournament in the last 6 years, coming from Asia, and without having to go through any playoffs.

Other good candidates for me are Di Biasi, former Albanian coach, or either Bielsa or Juan Antonio Pizzi, who’s just resigned as the Chile coach, and we all know how good they’ve been in the last 4-6 years, and the quality of football they’ve played.
Other such as Klinsmann, De Boer, Koeman, van Marwijk are not international level coaches. They’ve all been failures at coaching recently, at either international or club level. The slight exception there is probably van Marwijk, who qualified Saudi Arabia and resigned, but if we got him it’d feel to me like another Pim Verbeek or Holger Osieck appointment, very underwhelming.


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Tommy Docherty!!!!!!!!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Docherty

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frankstoncity83 - 23 Nov 2017 1:29 AM

Kevin Muscat would also be excellent. The game [Millwall against Sheffield United] where he went down the tunnel and headbutted a player shows his enterprising character. His ability to get the whole Australian team all sent off is a unique quality of true artistry. 
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Bibi - 22 Nov 2017 10:16 PM
Wayne Bennett 

Wayne Bennett will employ groups of 3 players to throw an opposing player over the touchline. Combined with backwards kicks, tactics could look like a drunk load of Friday night louts. 

Kevin Muscat would also be excellent. The game [Millwall against Sheffield United] where he went down the tunnel and headbutted a player shows his enterprising character. His ability to get the whole Australian team all sent off is a unique quality of true artistry. 
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Aljay - 22 Nov 2017 8:59 PM
John Kosmina



John Kosmina: head coach. 
Charlie Yankos: assistant coach. 

Or we could always bring back Frank Arok with a seance. He always had creative ideas that were ahead of his time, such as playing Scotland in Darwin to fry them. 




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What about Carlos Valderama? 

We could play a carlos hair formation. 
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Saudi have sacked their new coach already. Won two friendlies lost three. The losses were against good nations. Ange to Saudi? Unlikely. 
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thewitness - 17 Nov 2017 11:22 AM
Would it be worth getting Laurent Blanc in before the USA get a hold of him?


decent option. i would be ok with tony pulis.  you know we will probably end up with alan pardew.  

imo graham arnold is the only australian option. the only consistent coach with decent experience.  shame he is a complete fuckhead in front of a camera.  popa and muscat would be other options but they lack the consistency and have only been doing the job for a few years.  i would prefer an australian coach.  this is an opportunity that we should not waste on a foreigner.  this is a chance to develop internally. 




 




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