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+x+xSo the question is who replaces Justin Langer.... Lachlan Coote I thought Coote was replacing ScoMo.
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+x+x+xPlenty of high scoring games can be boring. Ir example cricket is most interesting when the bowlers are on top and batsmen need to decide whether to take risks or try to hang in. Basketball can go score for score for long periods with ilittle defence. AFL even awards a point for missing, which is like getting an award for most improved. 10 points for best haircut etc, Villi will be annoyed becuase his team's best haircut was poached. This point for missing is like getting a point or two for not being able to get over the line. Fied goal, goal, same criticism can be levelled. I suppose with football you either get it in the net or you don't. The other intense low scoring gane is.baseball. In both games one big play can be the difference between winning and losing. IMO AFL would a better game if the 1 point for missing was removed and a goal was 1 point. In league a penalty goal or field goal still needs to be over the bar and between 2 reasonably narrow posts. But the worst part of AFL is that it sometimes resembles seagulls fighting over a chip. Everyone likes watching different sports. Thats the thing... i love AFL. Probably the most entertaining sport for me, however rugby league is the most full-filling. I get more passionate about league than any other sport. But im a fairly passionate person when it comes to sport so even if you are near me while watching snooker or dressage, you better keep 1m clear as i may swing my arms in the air with no warning!
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+x+xI would imagine the largest, richest, most successful sport on the planet would say thanks for the advice. We are talking about the game in Oz and its inability to compete. We all know its big elsewhere. Its just has no chance here. Its at an all time low right now. I think even snooker is overtaking it.... This is a bit of a mystery. All teams in the world at club and international level play much the same style. Some teams try the occasional long ball or fast couner-attack, usually at the risk of losing posession. From what I have seen, the Australians knock it about ok, then a player makes a sloppy touch and they lose the ball before doing anything significant. Some of those sloppy touches tack me back to Australian soccer in the 1970's or very early 80s. But it seems our skill levels where higher 1990-2010, at least it seems like it. Perhaps that was just a fluke in that we had a batch of talented players Kewell, Cahill etc, and the team also had a drive to work hard and win. Not every player was skillful, but all put in. Other countries have improved rapidly and coaching at club and country level has a lot to do with that. When we come to club, I think that the A-league has gone backwards a lot in the last 5-10 years. I would like to see Australia do well at all sport, especially high profile international team sport. I think that the A-league players are fulltime professionals? If they are fulltime the coaching and skills work is sub-standard. Things sometimes go in cycles, I hope that this is simply the low point in the cycle, but I suspect most of the clubs are very poorly run, time will tell
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xIt doesn't seem to add up financially for Fox to do that, yet the execs wouldn't make a decision like that lightly. I guess they'll add preamble, commentary & football banter to the broadcast to make it interesting for people. The streams in recent years were bare bones & had various problems including going completely dead for periods of time, so I was happy to hear this was happening. Saves registering for an account & having to watch on a computer or phone too. Maybe streams are still an option for those that don't have Fox. Big Bash has been a failure in the summer, the NBL & A Lesgue has been stop/start…. I can see why they want NRL content even with numerous player changes during the trial games. I can’t wait to see the Dogs Its amazing how far backwards soccer has gone the last 2 seasons. Its an all time low. Its only hope is Fox offers 10M a season to have joint rights with Paramount+. If P+ are smart, they should take an offer like that if it were available. League, AFL and Big bash are the only thriving sports. Australian soccer needs a big overhaul, skill levels have dropped and the game admin seems worse than league. I don't watch A league anymore, the standards are too low, I rarely watch Big Bash. I think BBL is fine as background when on a date, getting drunk, watching YouTube or posting on social media and IMO that is probably how the majoity use it, Bottom line inspite of the years of poor admin, league on the field gets better each year, for enertaining TV viewing, it is hard to beat. I know Dman has been pitching to Foxsports network executives (for close to 20yrs now) for a brand new all year round sport he’s come up with. Smoking joints isn't a TV sport. Would be better than watching soccer... I tried so hard to enjoy soccer. But the game is just boring. Its the problem with any low-scoring sport. Its just not marketable and boring to anyone that is not a purist. The game itself has one of the most simplest set of rules and you dont need much in equipment - hence it is the most widely played game in the world. But to gain traction in a country where it competes against the 2 mainstream and high-scoring sports in league and AFL, it has no chance. Especially when the ideology switches to defence rather full blown attack. I have always felt soccer needs to break its shackles. It needs scores of 12-6 to become exciting and appeal to people and broadcasters. It is more about whether chances are created, which thay often are. So 2 games can have the same scoreline but be very different. If they want to increase scoring, make the goals 10 cm higher and 10 cm wider, there are lots of shots that bounce off the frame. Also maybe tweak off-side slightly so that tight calls go to the attack. 3 players must stay in the opposition half, etc. Many sports have made similar changes. Lower scoring sports it is all about the inensity of the play. A lot of games are good, but like all sports when you get 2 coaches with a negative mindset the gsme can get boring. Making it slightly easier to score means more good games as once a tesm scores the intensity ofren lifts. Actually they should introduce the basketball rule of you cant pass backwards across the centre line. It will force the australian game to play forward and while the posession stat will drop, its for the better of the game. Too many aussie teams (a-league and socceroos) worry about the ppossession stat too much and it clouds their focus of trying to actually WIN the bloody game. What about something like the blue line in ice hockey at say 30 or 35 metres out. Should open up the middle of the field and would be easier to police.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xIt doesn't seem to add up financially for Fox to do that, yet the execs wouldn't make a decision like that lightly. I guess they'll add preamble, commentary & football banter to the broadcast to make it interesting for people. The streams in recent years were bare bones & had various problems including going completely dead for periods of time, so I was happy to hear this was happening. Saves registering for an account & having to watch on a computer or phone too. Maybe streams are still an option for those that don't have Fox. Big Bash has been a failure in the summer, the NBL & A Lesgue has been stop/start…. I can see why they want NRL content even with numerous player changes during the trial games. I can’t wait to see the Dogs Its amazing how far backwards soccer has gone the last 2 seasons. Its an all time low. Its only hope is Fox offers 10M a season to have joint rights with Paramount+. If P+ are smart, they should take an offer like that if it were available. League, AFL and Big bash are the only thriving sports. Australian soccer needs a big overhaul, skill levels have dropped and the game admin seems worse than league. I don't watch A league anymore, the standards are too low, I rarely watch Big Bash. I think BBL is fine as background when on a date, getting drunk, watching YouTube or posting on social media and IMO that is probably how the majoity use it, Bottom line inspite of the years of poor admin, league on the field gets better each year, for enertaining TV viewing, it is hard to beat. I know Dman has been pitching to Foxsports network executives (for close to 20yrs now) for a brand new all year round sport he’s come up with. Smoking joints isn't a TV sport. Would be better than watching soccer... I tried so hard to enjoy soccer. But the game is just boring. Its the problem with any low-scoring sport. Its just not marketable and boring to anyone that is not a purist. The game itself has one of the most simplest set of rules and you dont need much in equipment - hence it is the most widely played game in the world. But to gain traction in a country where it competes against the 2 mainstream and high-scoring sports in league and AFL, it has no chance. Especially when the ideology switches to defence rather full blown attack. I have always felt soccer needs to break its shackles. It needs scores of 12-6 to become exciting and appeal to people and broadcasters. It is more about whether chances are created, which thay often are. So 2 games can have the same scoreline but be very different. If they want to increase scoring, make the goals 10 cm higher and 10 cm wider, there are lots of shots that bounce off the frame. Also maybe tweak off-side slightly so that tight calls go to the attack. 3 players must stay in the opposition half, etc. Many sports have made similar changes. Lower scoring sports it is all about the inensity of the play. A lot of games are good, but like all sports when you get 2 coaches with a negative mindset the gsme can get boring. Making it slightly easier to score means more good games as once a tesm scores the intensity ofren lifts. Actually they should introduce the basketball rule of you cant pass backwards across the centre line. It will force the australian game to play forward and while the posession stat will drop, its for the better of the game. Too many aussie teams (a-league and socceroos) worry about the ppossession stat too much and it clouds their focus of trying to actually WIN the bloody game. What about something like the blue line in ice hockey at say 30 or 35 metres out. Should open up the middle of the field and would be easier to police. I don't think that there is a set of rules that would make the current Australian team look good. For the game in general a slightly bigger net, or players within 10 metres of halftime when the ball is played can't be offside. Teams will leave 1-3 players up field looking for a fast break opportunity. 2-4 defenders will hang back in their own half to cover the fast break, especially if the other team has fast forwards. That simple rule change would stretch and speed up the game a lot.
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I think what you blokes don’t understand is in nations where football is big, like most of them, there are no fans, players or anyone else calling for it to be easier to score goals.
They actually like it that it is so hard. They don’t want bigger goals or less players or f***in’ lines on the ground just to make it easier so Australians can score.
They like it so that only players like Maradona or one of the Ronaldo’s (why are there so many Ronaldo’s?) are the only one’s who make it look easy.
They walk away from. 0-0 score, as long as it’s a quality game, and say yup that’s the way it should be - cause it ain’t f***in’ easy.
If you want to see someone score every time they get possession, then there’s always basketball.
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+xI think what you blokes don’t understand is in nations where football is big, like most of them, there are no fans, players or anyone else calling for it to be easier to score goals. They actually like it that it is so hard. They don’t want bigger goals or less players or f***in’ lines on the ground just to make it easier so Australians can score. They like it so that only players like Maradona or one of the Ronaldo’s (why are there so many Ronaldo’s?) are the only one’s who make it look easy. They walk away from. 0-0 score, as long as it’s a quality game, and say yup that’s the way it should be - cause it ain’t f***in’ easy. If you want to see someone score every time they get possession, then there’s always basketball. Yes the key sentence here is if it is a quality game. I do agree that it will be close to impossible to change the rules, even if all fans worldwide were asking for it. It is hypothetical, a lot of sport has limitations where the level of entertainment depends on the players and coaches. Sometimes 0-0 is more entertaining and a higher quality game than 1-1. But all fans want to see action, not necessarily scoring, but quality attack perhaps stopped by great defence or a great save. Fans don't like to see a lot of slow passing with very few shots on goal, and no team ever looking like scoring. I'm familiar with EPL, 1 in 5 ganes is a dud, 1 in 5 a bit ordinary, 3 out of 5 good with some exceptional. These are the games I happen to watch, not all games. Fans are generally happy with the standard, but fans are not happy about the dud games. Like I said it is hypothetical, I don't think the powerbrokers in soccer are reading the BDP.
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+xI think what you blokes don’t understand is in nations where football is big, like most of them, there are no fans, players or anyone else calling for it to be easier to score goals. They actually like it that it is so hard. They don’t want bigger goals or less players or f***in’ lines on the ground just to make it easier so Australians can score. They like it so that only players like Maradona or one of the Ronaldo’s (why are there so many Ronaldo’s?) are the only one’s who make it look easy. They walk away from. 0-0 score, as long as it’s a quality game, and say yup that’s the way it should be - cause it ain’t f***in’ easy. If you want to see someone score every time they get possession, then there’s always basketball. Thats because its the established #1 or #2 sport in thos countries and not under threat. Here, id say soccer is behind League, AFL, Big Bash and even Netball. Its competing with the likes of Basketball and Union, except those sports are actually wanted by the networks and currently no network even wants soccer. Sure its partly on channel 10, but not even 10 was willing to buy the full rights.... Its actually disappointing and a travesty how ACMA has allowed the game to be chopped up by all the subscription companies... If you want EPL, you have to have Optus. If you want A-league, you need Paramount+. If you want european leagues (spain, italy, germany, france, even EFL) you need Fox or Kayo and if you want Champions League, you need Stan Sport. They have butchered the game.
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+x+xI think what you blokes don’t understand is in nations where football is big, like most of them, there are no fans, players or anyone else calling for it to be easier to score goals. They actually like it that it is so hard. They don’t want bigger goals or less players or f***in’ lines on the ground just to make it easier so Australians can score. They like it so that only players like Maradona or one of the Ronaldo’s (why are there so many Ronaldo’s?) are the only one’s who make it look easy. They walk away from. 0-0 score, as long as it’s a quality game, and say yup that’s the way it should be - cause it ain’t f***in’ easy. If you want to see someone score every time they get possession, then there’s always basketball. Thats because its the established #1 or #2 sport in thos countries and not under threat. Here, id say soccer is behind League, AFL, Big Bash and even Netball. Its competing with the likes of Basketball and Union, except those sports are actually wanted by the networks and currently no network even wants soccer. Sure its partly on channel 10, but not even 10 was willing to buy the full rights.... Its actually disappointing and a travesty how ACMA has allowed the game to be chopped up by all the subscription companies... If you want EPL, you have to have Optus. If you want A-league, you need Paramount+. If you want european leagues (spain, italy, germany, france, even EFL) you need Fox or Kayo and if you want Champions League, you need Stan Sport. They have butchered the game. .. actually... they butchered the interest in the game.....
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Marki
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+x+xI think what you blokes don’t understand is in nations where football is big, like most of them, there are no fans, players or anyone else calling for it to be easier to score goals. They actually like it that it is so hard. They don’t want bigger goals or less players or f***in’ lines on the ground just to make it easier so Australians can score. They like it so that only players like Maradona or one of the Ronaldo’s (why are there so many Ronaldo’s?) are the only one’s who make it look easy. They walk away from. 0-0 score, as long as it’s a quality game, and say yup that’s the way it should be - cause it ain’t f***in’ easy. If you want to see someone score every time they get possession, then there’s always basketball. Yes the key sentence here is if it is a quality game. I do agree that it will be close to impossible to change the rules, even if all fans worldwide were asking for it. It is hypothetical, a lot of sport has limitations where the level of entertainment depends on the players and coaches. Sometimes 0-0 is more entertaining and a higher quality game than 1-1. But all fans want to see action, not necessarily scoring, but quality attack perhaps stopped by great defence or a great save. Fans don't like to see a lot of slow passing with very few shots on goal, and no team ever looking like scoring. I'm familiar with EPL, 1 in 5 ganes is a dud, 1 in 5 a bit ordinary, 3 out of 5 good with some exceptional. These are the games I happen to watch, not all games. Fans are generally happy with the standard, but fans are not happy about the dud games. Like I said it is hypothetical, I don't think the powerbrokers in soccer are reading the BDP. You are mostly right HD but the thing is, in league, you can watch 2 teams have a fumble-a-thon and it would still be interesting. In soccer however if you are watching 2 teams having a shocker and cant string 2 passes together, its an abysmal game. Quite simply, one is a better spectacle of a game with more latitude to poor play, while the other is highly dependent on good skill otherwise it can get quite boring. What i find most interesting is that you often get great atmosphere in the stands in soccer games. Unfortunately it has nothing to do with whats on the pitch!
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+x+x+xI think what you blokes don’t understand is in nations where football is big, like most of them, there are no fans, players or anyone else calling for it to be easier to score goals. They actually like it that it is so hard. They don’t want bigger goals or less players or f***in’ lines on the ground just to make it easier so Australians can score. They like it so that only players like Maradona or one of the Ronaldo’s (why are there so many Ronaldo’s?) are the only one’s who make it look easy. They walk away from. 0-0 score, as long as it’s a quality game, and say yup that’s the way it should be - cause it ain’t f***in’ easy. If you want to see someone score every time they get possession, then there’s always basketball. Yes the key sentence here is if it is a quality game. I do agree that it will be close to impossible to change the rules, even if all fans worldwide were asking for it. It is hypothetical, a lot of sport has limitations where the level of entertainment depends on the players and coaches. Sometimes 0-0 is more entertaining and a higher quality game than 1-1. But all fans want to see action, not necessarily scoring, but quality attack perhaps stopped by great defence or a great save. Fans don't like to see a lot of slow passing with very few shots on goal, and no team ever looking like scoring. I'm familiar with EPL, 1 in 5 ganes is a dud, 1 in 5 a bit ordinary, 3 out of 5 good with some exceptional. These are the games I happen to watch, not all games. Fans are generally happy with the standard, but fans are not happy about the dud games. Like I said it is hypothetical, I don't think the powerbrokers in soccer are reading the BDP. You are mostly right HD but the thing is, in league, you can watch 2 teams have a fumble-a-thon and it would still be interesting. In soccer however if you are watching 2 teams having a shocker and cant string 2 passes together, its an abysmal game. Quite simply, one is a better spectacle of a game with more latitude to poor play, while the other is highly dependent on good skill otherwise it can get quite boring. What i find most interesting is that you often get great atmosphere in the stands in soccer games. Unfortunately it has nothing to do with whats on the pitch! There were plenty of blowout league games I switched off last year. Actually a few i3 didn't even bother turning on.
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+x+xI think what you blokes don’t understand is in nations where football is big, like most of them, there are no fans, players or anyone else calling for it to be easier to score goals. They actually like it that it is so hard. They don’t want bigger goals or less players or f***in’ lines on the ground just to make it easier so Australians can score. They like it so that only players like Maradona or one of the Ronaldo’s (why are there so many Ronaldo’s?) are the only one’s who make it look easy. They walk away from. 0-0 score, as long as it’s a quality game, and say yup that’s the way it should be - cause it ain’t f***in’ easy. If you want to see someone score every time they get possession, then there’s always basketball. Thats because its the established #1 or #2 sport in thos countries and not under threat. Here, id say soccer is behind League, AFL, Big Bash and even Netball. Its competing with the likes of Basketball and Union, except those sports are actually wanted by the networks and currently no network even wants soccer. Sure its partly on channel 10, but not even 10 was willing to buy the full rights.... Its actually disappointing and a travesty how ACMA has allowed the game to be chopped up by all the subscription companies... If you want EPL, you have to have Optus. If you want A-league, you need Paramount+. If you want european leagues (spain, italy, germany, france, even EFL) you need Fox or Kayo and if you want Champions League, you need Stan Sport. They have butchered the game. If they can make A-league games attractive they might get a better TV deal. I don't understand Paramount+, but maybe that was the best deal they could get. Money wise, this is the only sport where we are bidding for talent against much wealthier countries. In terms of local sponsors, well behind NRL, AFL and cricket. Basketball seems to be going ok, I never watch the local comp, but internationally the team seems to be competitive. In both sports if a talented young kid gets a big more deal overseas, they should probably take it.
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+x+x+x+xI think what you blokes don’t understand is in nations where football is big, like most of them, there are no fans, players or anyone else calling for it to be easier to score goals. They actually like it that it is so hard. They don’t want bigger goals or less players or f***in’ lines on the ground just to make it easier so Australians can score. They like it so that only players like Maradona or one of the Ronaldo’s (why are there so many Ronaldo’s?) are the only one’s who make it look easy. They walk away from. 0-0 score, as long as it’s a quality game, and say yup that’s the way it should be - cause it ain’t f***in’ easy. If you want to see someone score every time they get possession, then there’s always basketball. Yes the key sentence here is if it is a quality game. I do agree that it will be close to impossible to change the rules, even if all fans worldwide were asking for it. It is hypothetical, a lot of sport has limitations where the level of entertainment depends on the players and coaches. Sometimes 0-0 is more entertaining and a higher quality game than 1-1. But all fans want to see action, not necessarily scoring, but quality attack perhaps stopped by great defence or a great save. Fans don't like to see a lot of slow passing with very few shots on goal, and no team ever looking like scoring. I'm familiar with EPL, 1 in 5 ganes is a dud, 1 in 5 a bit ordinary, 3 out of 5 good with some exceptional. These are the games I happen to watch, not all games. Fans are generally happy with the standard, but fans are not happy about the dud games. Like I said it is hypothetical, I don't think the powerbrokers in soccer are reading the BDP. You are mostly right HD but the thing is, in league, you can watch 2 teams have a fumble-a-thon and it would still be interesting. In soccer however if you are watching 2 teams having a shocker and cant string 2 passes together, its an abysmal game. Quite simply, one is a better spectacle of a game with more latitude to poor play, while the other is highly dependent on good skill otherwise it can get quite boring. What i find most interesting is that you often get great atmosphere in the stands in soccer games. Unfortunately it has nothing to do with whats on the pitch! There were plenty of blowout league games I switched off last year. Actually a few i3 didn't even bother turning on. Fans are happy with quality play and / or a close action with close shaves, a great game has both. I agree with Marki, in league dropped ball can be exciting if it results in a try, or 6 drops tolerable if they nail the play on the 7th attempt. In soccer sometimes both sides sit back and defend or for some reason, match ups tend to cancel each other out. Teams don't have to play that badly for it to be a poor contest, 1 bad pass in 10 is more than enough to ruin the game. Moving the ball too slowly means that the defence is well set like a slow play the ball in league. In league, a game, with dropped ball, lots of stoppages, a skinny 10 and slow play the balls is a turn off. I don't think any sport it totally immune from a hard to watch game, but quality refs make a big difference.
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Marki
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+x+x+x+xI think what you blokes don’t understand is in nations where football is big, like most of them, there are no fans, players or anyone else calling for it to be easier to score goals. They actually like it that it is so hard. They don’t want bigger goals or less players or f***in’ lines on the ground just to make it easier so Australians can score. They like it so that only players like Maradona or one of the Ronaldo’s (why are there so many Ronaldo’s?) are the only one’s who make it look easy. They walk away from. 0-0 score, as long as it’s a quality game, and say yup that’s the way it should be - cause it ain’t f***in’ easy. If you want to see someone score every time they get possession, then there’s always basketball. Yes the key sentence here is if it is a quality game. I do agree that it will be close to impossible to change the rules, even if all fans worldwide were asking for it. It is hypothetical, a lot of sport has limitations where the level of entertainment depends on the players and coaches. Sometimes 0-0 is more entertaining and a higher quality game than 1-1. But all fans want to see action, not necessarily scoring, but quality attack perhaps stopped by great defence or a great save. Fans don't like to see a lot of slow passing with very few shots on goal, and no team ever looking like scoring. I'm familiar with EPL, 1 in 5 ganes is a dud, 1 in 5 a bit ordinary, 3 out of 5 good with some exceptional. These are the games I happen to watch, not all games. Fans are generally happy with the standard, but fans are not happy about the dud games. Like I said it is hypothetical, I don't think the powerbrokers in soccer are reading the BDP. You are mostly right HD but the thing is, in league, you can watch 2 teams have a fumble-a-thon and it would still be interesting. In soccer however if you are watching 2 teams having a shocker and cant string 2 passes together, its an abysmal game. Quite simply, one is a better spectacle of a game with more latitude to poor play, while the other is highly dependent on good skill otherwise it can get quite boring. What i find most interesting is that you often get great atmosphere in the stands in soccer games. Unfortunately it has nothing to do with whats on the pitch! There were plenty of blowout league games I switched off last year. Actually a few i3 didn't even bother turning on. Yep, thats tinkering with the rules too much that it affected the overall product. Im hoping this years rule will correct some of that, but we shall see.
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+x+x+x+x+xI think what you blokes don’t understand is in nations where football is big, like most of them, there are no fans, players or anyone else calling for it to be easier to score goals. They actually like it that it is so hard. They don’t want bigger goals or less players or f***in’ lines on the ground just to make it easier so Australians can score. They like it so that only players like Maradona or one of the Ronaldo’s (why are there so many Ronaldo’s?) are the only one’s who make it look easy. They walk away from. 0-0 score, as long as it’s a quality game, and say yup that’s the way it should be - cause it ain’t f***in’ easy. If you want to see someone score every time they get possession, then there’s always basketball. Yes the key sentence here is if it is a quality game. I do agree that it will be close to impossible to change the rules, even if all fans worldwide were asking for it. It is hypothetical, a lot of sport has limitations where the level of entertainment depends on the players and coaches. Sometimes 0-0 is more entertaining and a higher quality game than 1-1. But all fans want to see action, not necessarily scoring, but quality attack perhaps stopped by great defence or a great save. Fans don't like to see a lot of slow passing with very few shots on goal, and no team ever looking like scoring. I'm familiar with EPL, 1 in 5 ganes is a dud, 1 in 5 a bit ordinary, 3 out of 5 good with some exceptional. These are the games I happen to watch, not all games. Fans are generally happy with the standard, but fans are not happy about the dud games. Like I said it is hypothetical, I don't think the powerbrokers in soccer are reading the BDP. You are mostly right HD but the thing is, in league, you can watch 2 teams have a fumble-a-thon and it would still be interesting. In soccer however if you are watching 2 teams having a shocker and cant string 2 passes together, its an abysmal game. Quite simply, one is a better spectacle of a game with more latitude to poor play, while the other is highly dependent on good skill otherwise it can get quite boring. What i find most interesting is that you often get great atmosphere in the stands in soccer games. Unfortunately it has nothing to do with whats on the pitch! There were plenty of blowout league games I switched off last year. Actually a few i3 didn't even bother turning on. Fans are happy with quality play and / or a close action with close shaves, a great game has both. I agree with Marki, in league dropped ball can be exciting if it results in a try, or 6 drops tolerable if they nail the play on the 7th attempt. In soccer sometimes both sides sit back and defend or for some reason, match ups tend to cancel each other out. Teams don't have to play that badly for it to be a poor contest, 1 bad pass in 10 is more than enough to ruin the game. Moving the ball too slowly means that the defence is well set like a slow play the ball in league. In league, a game, with dropped ball, lots of stoppages, a skinny 10 and slow play the balls is a turn off. I don't think any sport it totally immune from a hard to watch game, but quality refs make a big difference. Can i just say that viewers arent stupid.... And so when they see a rugby league player stay down and touch his head in order to get a HIA and penalty /free interchange, it reminds them of that other Oscar aspiring sport (soccer) and turns them off. Once again, VLandys tinkering with the rules but ultimately teams taking advantage (or taking the piss) and viewers taken for a ride. Naturally people lose interest. I think they have no removed the free interchange unless the "injured" player is actually HIA rubbed out, so at least they have recognised their stuff up. It may still lead to a penalty though and so players may still be eligible for Oscars, BAFTAs and the like....
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+x+xPlenty of high scoring games can be boring. Ir example cricket is most interesting when the bowlers are on top and batsmen need to decide whether to take risks or try to hang in. Basketball can go score for score for long periods with ilittle defence. AFL even awards a point for missing, which is like getting an award for most improved. 10 points for best haircut etc, Villi will be annoyed becuase his team's best haircut was poached. This point for missing is like getting a point or two for not being able to get over the line. Fied goal, goal, same criticism can be levelled. I suppose with football you either get it in the net or you don't. Gaelic Football is the same 3 points for beating the goal keeper and finding the back of the net or you can kick over the goal betwern the uprights for 1.
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There are women and children reading this page... Show a little respect and stop posting about soccer and AFL...
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+xThere are women and children reading this page... Show a little respect and stop posting about soccer and AFL... Hahahaha…. Douglas! Im with you on one point Dman…. I’ve never watched a game of AFL, never will. Same goes for all the bloody Star Wars crap
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This is supposed to be Canterbury merchandise, looks more like the Thunderbirds : https://bit.ly/3uufRg0This one was pretty scary too : https://bit.ly/34liJBo
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+x+xThere are women and children reading this page... Show a little respect and stop posting about soccer and AFL... Hahahaha…. Douglas! Im with you on one point Dman…. I’ve never watched a game of AFL, never will. Same goes for all the bloody Star Wars crap That statement reminds me of the quote by Harold McMillan. "I have never found, in a long experience of politics, that criticism is ever inhibited by ignorance"
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Is that an Aiden Tolman in the end? Im sharpening the pins as we speak!
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+xIs that an Aiden Tolman in the end? Im sharpening the pins as we speak! hehe, the names were in the listing. The one on the end was meant to be James Graham. I found these by accident when seeing if there were any decent Canterbury middie glasses. All I could find was a 600ml glass & I'm not that kind of drinker. It's probably a European size the factory stuck a Canterbury logo on. Now that you mention it, I did see a lot of football cards in the search results, including several Tolmans. $1.95 each delivered. This would be a good gift for Steve : https://bit.ly/3LdzBuA
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+x+xIs that an Aiden Tolman in the end? Im sharpening the pins as we speak! hehe, the names were in the listing. The one on the end was meant to be James Graham. I found these by accident when seeing if there were any decent Canterbury middie glasses. All I could find was a 600ml glass & I'm not that kind of drinker. It's probably a European size the factory stuck a Canterbury logo on. Now that you mention it, I did see a lot of football cards in the search results, including several Tolmans. $1.95 each delivered. This would be a good gift for Steve : https://bit.ly/3LdzBuA 600ml glass? Thats so small it would slip right through Dman fingers!
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+x600ml glass? Thats so small it would slip right through Dman fingers! Well I wasn't buying it for dman, he can stick a straw in a longneck! A schooner is 425ml, so with 600ml the bottom half of the glass would be getting to room temperature for me. I'd rather just a couple of stubbies or middies, always cold & keeps the head screwed on. I also heard it's worth keeping the liver & kidneys etc...
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+x+xThere are women and children reading this page... Show a little respect and stop posting about soccer and AFL... Hahahaha…. Douglas! Im with you on one point Dman…. I’ve never watched a game of AFL, never will. Same goes for all the bloody Star Wars crap If you have trouble getting off to sleep - AFL wotks.
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+x+x600ml glass? Thats so small it would slip right through Dman fingers! I also heard it's worth keeping the liver & kidneys etc... Fake news...
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+x+x+xThere are women and children reading this page... Show a little respect and stop posting about soccer and AFL... Hahahaha…. Douglas! Im with you on one point Dman…. I’ve never watched a game of AFL, never will. Same goes for all the bloody Star Wars crap If you have trouble getting off to sleep - AFL wotks. Depends on who is sleeping... AFL doesn't work for me... Ladies, kids... I'm sorry.... Germoulists... U know what talkin about....
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+x+x+x+xThere are women and children reading this page... Show a little respect and stop posting about soccer and AFL... Hahahaha…. Douglas! Im with you on one point Dman…. I’ve never watched a game of AFL, never will. Same goes for all the bloody Star Wars crap If you have trouble getting off to sleep - AFL wotks. Depends on who is sleeping... AFL doesn't work for me... Ladies, kids... I'm sorry.... Germoulists... U know what talkin about.... Hawaii 5-O?
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+x+x+x+x+xThere are women and children reading this page... Show a little respect and stop posting about soccer and AFL... Hahahaha…. Douglas! Im with you on one point Dman…. I’ve never watched a game of AFL, never will. Same goes for all the bloody Star Wars crap If you have trouble getting off to sleep - AFL wotks. Depends on who is sleeping... AFL doesn't work for me... Ladies, kids... I'm sorry.... Germoulists... U know what talkin about.... Hawaii 5-O? Teletubbies?
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+x+x+x+xPlenty of high scoring games can be boring. Ir example cricket is most interesting when the bowlers are on top and batsmen need to decide whether to take risks or try to hang in. Basketball can go score for score for long periods with ilittle defence. AFL even awards a point for missing, which is like getting an award for most improved. 10 points for best haircut etc, Villi will be annoyed becuase his team's best haircut was poached. This point for missing is like getting a point or two for not being able to get over the line. Fied goal, goal, same criticism can be levelled. I suppose with football you either get it in the net or you don't. The other intense low scoring gane is.baseball. In both games one big play can be the difference between winning and losing. IMO AFL would a better game if the 1 point for missing was removed and a goal was 1 point. In league a penalty goal or field goal still needs to be over the bar and between 2 reasonably narrow posts. But the worst part of AFL is that it sometimes resembles seagulls fighting over a chip. Everyone likes watching different sports. Thats the thing... i love AFL. Probably the most entertaining sport for me, however rugby league is the most full-filling. I get more passionate about league than any other sport. But im a fairly passionate person when it comes to sport so even if you are near me while watching snooker or dressage, you better keep 1m clear as i may swing my arms in the air with no warning! I get pretty excited too. I remember knocking downna fan in a friends house when the dogs scored
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