hounddog
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+xI’m all for replacing OK. But we need a big body. Who? We just need a big fast winger. How fucking hard is it? I’m wishing we just let him go when he got in trouble. Then we have no choice. Schoupp is a big body and move Burns to the wing. Or take the best winger / centre in reserve grade. Okunbor started out in the forwatds play him in the forwards in reserve grade to get him fit.
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hounddog
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+x+x+x+xhow many chances does "dreadlocks" get - it's as if Barrett is waiting for the guy to run hard, defend hard, and use his effin' body- the guy is a bloody passenger - and people say you gotta have big wingers - I 'd take Matt Utai tomorrow after 4 meat pies, 6 beers and no training the team tries hard but this guy ....if he played for free then he is being paid overs - at least run and chase hard you goose rather than throw your hands up and appeal " oh I can't turn and chase cause I am big and can't turn and i get lost" well tell that guys who DO chase like jacko and James Graham and every body else Barrett won’t pick him next week after the performances in reserve grade. Too many outside backs putting their hand up Who's your picko Micko???... Allamoti obviously. But he is injured Schoupp a better option for now.
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Mick O
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+x+x+x+x+xhow many chances does "dreadlocks" get - it's as if Barrett is waiting for the guy to run hard, defend hard, and use his effin' body- the guy is a bloody passenger - and people say you gotta have big wingers - I 'd take Matt Utai tomorrow after 4 meat pies, 6 beers and no training the team tries hard but this guy ....if he played for free then he is being paid overs - at least run and chase hard you goose rather than throw your hands up and appeal " oh I can't turn and chase cause I am big and can't turn and i get lost" well tell that guys who DO chase like jacko and James Graham and every body else Barrett won’t pick him next week after the performances in reserve grade. Too many outside backs putting their hand up Who's your picko Micko???... Allamoti obviously. But he is injured Schoupp a better option for now. I’m not disagreeing. But a back three of Carr, Dufty and Burns is giving up lots of size. I don’t want to break up Burto, Naden and Carr on the left either. I really wish we kept Cotric.
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Mick O
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Unfortunately unless we get somebody else in the top thirty. Schoup is the only option. Fuck it.
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+xFor the sake of a “contest for the ball” are you willing to trade feet across the scrum penalties, collapsing the scrum penalties, loose arm penalties, second row feed penalties… and they’re just the ones I can think of, there’s more I’m sure. The only thing a scrum’s good for is a set play, so roll it through the lock’s feet and get on with it. The only thing old school scrum’s were good for is they gave you time to go have a piss, or a shit, or a wank. Or even all three. Rubbish
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+x+x+x+xMdog thy should have been made to have the scrum again. AND this is why I keep banging on that scrums must return to a contest for the ball and not roll it throught the second row/locks legs bullsh!t. If you return scrums to a contest for the ball again it means you get multiple scrum re-sets again, scrum penalties again, boring ref pedantic instructions and interpretations again - basically RU waste of 20 mins of game-time again. Why would anybody want that? What is the attraction in a scrum? Have a good look at scrums from the 70’s and it’s nothing but a 24 legged creature kicking itself in the shins until it falls over. And then there’s a penalty… or worse - it’s made to do it again.
Exactly. Having scrums back would destroy the game. I think the fans whinge enough about bad ref calls. I don’t want to think about the conspiracy theories around scrum penalties.
It’s honestly time to fuck off scrums altogether. And while we are at it remove the stripping rule, if you strip the ball at any time penalty. One on one, penalty. Trying to score, penalty. If you have the ball you have a right to keep it.
If the refs are also told that the play the ball should be slowed down we will see the backs involved more. So enforce standing up. Standing on the mark. Place the ball and touch it with the foot. That will see more backline movements. Not scrums. Probably a reasonable balance where it is now... It provides extra space having those 6 blokes out of the line when it happens... No scrums is a step too far... As for the contest, pretty sure there is no rule against pushing in scrum... Players are more concerned and no doubt coached to break as quickly as possible to get back in the D line, pushing would counter that... The fact that they don't really pack and push means they're not really out of the line
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+x+xI’m all for replacing OK. But we need a big body. Who? We just need a big fast winger. How fucking hard is it? I’m wishing we just let him go when he got in trouble. Then we have no choice. Schoupp is a big body and move Burns to the wing. Or take the best winger / centre in reserve grade. Okunbor started out in the forwatds play him in the forwards in reserve grade to get him fit. Born in Mount Isa 11lbs baby, My dad wanted me to be a 1/2 back but played prop. Dad Trent needs to play Jake in a position that suits him..... 7 is not his spot never will be.... Give him space he will kill it... Jayden OK hmmmm get him off the wing wing he turns lie a combine harvester smoking dope
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Marki
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Didnt watch the game live so i will watch a replay sometime later today, but im still concerned we have scored only 3 tries in 2 games.
Until we can routinely score a min 5 tries per game we arent giving ourselves the chance to win games.
Yes, some people might say we have created try opportunities but they mean SFA if you dont convert them. Id like to see us create 8 chances and score 5.
On a positive note we scored 1 in Round 1 and 2 in Round 2 so in about 4 weeks, we will be scoring 6 tries which should win games and by round 25 we will have notched over 100 points.
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Mick O
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+xDidnt watch the game live so i will watch a replay sometime later today, but im still concerned we have scored only 3 tries in 2 games. Until we can routinely score a min 5 tries per game we arent giving ourselves the chance to win games. Yes, some people might say we have created try opportunities but they mean SFA if you dont convert them. Id like to see us create 8 chances and score 5. On a positive note we scored 1 in Round 1 and 2 in Round 2 so in about 4 weeks, we will be scoring 6 tries which should win games and by round 25 we will have notched over 100 points. We will score more try’s when the players play as a team. It will take a few more games, maybe longer.
Positives were. Our forwards made great meters and offloaded the ball constantly. Burto’s kicking game will give us great field position. Dufty and JAC will save and score plenty if they can get the ball.
Negatives were. No Cohesion. Basic defensive errors. Teamwork.
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Marki, you are way too critical, just go watch the replay and adjust your post accordingly. At least we are creating opportunities uunlike the last 5 years. When a player crosses the try line and the referee doesn't even entertain the idea of at least reviewing it, then you know the agenda of the NRLol and which team they will assist to win the game.
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+xMarki, you are way too critical, just go watch the replay and adjust your post accordingly. At least we are creating opportunities uunlike the last 5 years. When a player crosses the try line and the referee doesn't even entertain the idea of at least reviewing it, then you know the agenda of the NRLol and which team they will assist to win the game. I watched the replay and i can say that im hopeful for the future.... Its disappointing we didnt get the win. Could have gone either way. Broncos much improved from last couple of years. I'm not unhappy with creating the opportunities. Would still like us to create more, but certainly better than previous years which relied more on opposition errors than anything created on our own. The better teams just nail their opportunities more often than not. I'm resigned to the fact that we are a WIP and it be a topsy turvey year. I expect by mid season and certainly be end of year to be much more fluid and most players having locked in their best positions. What i still want to see however is a team that can score go into games with expectation of scoring a good 5 or 6 tries, and actually executing. 1 win from 2 is pretty much a pass mark at this stage - especially since we have been in the games to win them both. I actually think we can knock off one of the big teams in the coming weeks. There's good reason to have hope.
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+x+xMarki, you are way too critical, just go watch the replay and adjust your post accordingly. At least we are creating opportunities uunlike the last 5 years. When a player crosses the try line and the referee doesn't even entertain the idea of at least reviewing it, then you know the agenda of the NRLol and which team they will assist to win the game. I watched the replay and i can say that im hopeful for the future.... Its disappointing we didnt get the win. Could have gone either way. Broncos much improved from last couple of years. I'm not unhappy with creating the opportunities. Would still like us to create more, but certainly better than previous years which relied more on opposition errors than anything created on our own. The better teams just nail their opportunities more often than not. I'm resigned to the fact that we are a WIP and it be a topsy turvey year. I expect by mid season and certainly be end of year to be much more fluid and most players having locked in their best positions. What i still want to see however is a team that can score go into games with expectation of scoring a good 5 or 6 tries, and actually executing. 1 win from 2 is pretty much a pass mark at this stage - especially since we have been in the games to win them both. I actually think we can knock off one of the big teams in the coming weeks. There's good reason to have hope. I see it the same way mate. This year with so many new players we will see a lot of bad but also a lot of good. Might even be a chance of playing finals if they continue to play with that positive attitude. The forwards have been great TPJ playing as a middle suits him and Waddell is a surprisingly very good edge forward. If we keep winning the forward battle we will score plenty when the team gels.
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NSW Cup won well and scored over 50....Wakeham supposed to have wow of a game. Surely we could shift Averillo to centre and drop Okunbor with Burns to wing maybe. JOK is one of the most disappointing and weakest footballers I have ever seen given his size.
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Is Naden a winger or a centre? He doesn't seem to have a clue about setting up/using his outside man. Unfortunately that outside man is JAC.
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Yeah I saw one definite try go begging because he didn't give service to JAC and tjought a couple more could have been possibilities. The thing is, the improvement is there and when they do gel as a unit FMD they are going to be lethal.
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+xNSW Cup won well and scored over 50....Wakeham supposed to have wow of a game. Surely we could shift Averillo to centre and drop Okunbor with Burns to wing maybe. JOK is one of the most disappointing and weakest footballers I have ever seen given his size. I think Wakeham has potential to be a good half. Averillo fine in the centres in attack, a bit suspect in defence and not good for the tough yardage hit ups. But teaming him up with the Fox would be interesting. Whatever we do surely Okunbor has earned a run in reserve grade.
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I would probably put Wakeham on the bench instead of BBO.
Drop Okunbor, move Naden to the wing and promote Schoupp or Casey in the centres.
If we are looking for a player to set up the Fox, Casey is the man.
Baz probably will not make changes, but the Ok defensive effort for the 2nd Broncs try was woeful and the effort for the 3rd try not much better.
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+xMarki, you are way too critical, just go watch the replay and adjust your post accordingly. At least we are creating opportunities uunlike the last 5 years. When a player crosses the try line and the referee doesn't even entertain the idea of at least reviewing it, then you know the agenda of the NRLol and which team they will assist to win the game. Mate... Let Leagues greatest mind and first armchair coaching immortal have his say... That AFL game he watched while we were playing showed him more than enough... Trust the science!!!...
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+x+xMarki, you are way too critical, just go watch the replay and adjust your post accordingly. At least we are creating opportunities uunlike the last 5 years. When a player crosses the try line and the referee doesn't even entertain the idea of at least reviewing it, then you know the agenda of the NRLol and which team they will assist to win the game. I watched the replay and i can say that im hopeful for the future.... Its disappointing we didnt get the win. Could have gone either way. Broncos much improved from last couple of years. I'm not unhappy with creating the opportunities. Would still like us to create more, but certainly better than previous years which relied more on opposition errors than anything created on our own. The better teams just nail their opportunities more often than not. I'm resigned to the fact that we are a WIP and it be a topsy turvey year. I expect by mid season and certainly be end of year to be much more fluid and most players having locked in their best positions. What i still want to see however is a team that can score go into games with expectation of scoring a good 5 or 6 tries, and actually executing. 1 win from 2 is pretty much a pass mark at this stage - especially since we have been in the games to win them both. I actually think we can knock off one of the big teams in the coming weeks. There's good reason to have hope. Looks like Slinky has the Mock detained in a Siberian camp and has taken control of his identity in an effort to reinstate Dib at the next election...
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+x+x+xMarki, you are way too critical, just go watch the replay and adjust your post accordingly. At least we are creating opportunities uunlike the last 5 years. When a player crosses the try line and the referee doesn't even entertain the idea of at least reviewing it, then you know the agenda of the NRLol and which team they will assist to win the game. I watched the replay and i can say that im hopeful for the future.... Its disappointing we didnt get the win. Could have gone either way. Broncos much improved from last couple of years. I'm not unhappy with creating the opportunities. Would still like us to create more, but certainly better than previous years which relied more on opposition errors than anything created on our own. The better teams just nail their opportunities more often than not. I'm resigned to the fact that we are a WIP and it be a topsy turvey year. I expect by mid season and certainly be end of year to be much more fluid and most players having locked in their best positions. What i still want to see however is a team that can score go into games with expectation of scoring a good 5 or 6 tries, and actually executing. 1 win from 2 is pretty much a pass mark at this stage - especially since we have been in the games to win them both. I actually think we can knock off one of the big teams in the coming weeks. There's good reason to have hope. I see it the same way mate. This year with so many new players we will see a lot of bad but also a lot of good. Might even be a chance of playing finals if they continue to play with that positive attitude. The forwards have been great TPJ playing as a middle suits him and Waddell is a surprisingly very good edge forward. If we keep winning the forward battle we will score plenty when the team gels.
I agree with Micolic and Markovic... Waddell looks the goods when not trying to make something happen on every play... There is a heap to be positive about this year...
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+xI would probably put Wakeham on the bench instead of BBO. Drop Okunbor, move Naden to the wing and promote Schoupp or Casey in the centres. If we are looking for a player to set up the Fox, Casey is the man. Baz probably will not make changes, but the Ok defensive effort for the 2nd Broncs try was woeful and the effort for the 3rd try not much better. OK has got to go... Perhaps for Casey but I only have trial effort to go off... He was great... Burns to wing and Chopper to centre... maybe but Burns has been pretty good... I'd rather give Nado and Foxx more time to get it together without messing around with both flanks...
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+x+x+x+xMarki, you are way too critical, just go watch the replay and adjust your post accordingly. At least we are creating opportunities uunlike the last 5 years. When a player crosses the try line and the referee doesn't even entertain the idea of at least reviewing it, then you know the agenda of the NRLol and which team they will assist to win the game. I watched the replay and i can say that im hopeful for the future.... Its disappointing we didnt get the win. Could have gone either way. Broncos much improved from last couple of years. I'm not unhappy with creating the opportunities. Would still like us to create more, but certainly better than previous years which relied more on opposition errors than anything created on our own. The better teams just nail their opportunities more often than not. I'm resigned to the fact that we are a WIP and it be a topsy turvey year. I expect by mid season and certainly be end of year to be much more fluid and most players having locked in their best positions. What i still want to see however is a team that can score go into games with expectation of scoring a good 5 or 6 tries, and actually executing. 1 win from 2 is pretty much a pass mark at this stage - especially since we have been in the games to win them both. I actually think we can knock off one of the big teams in the coming weeks. There's good reason to have hope. I see it the same way mate. This year with so many new players we will see a lot of bad but also a lot of good. Might even be a chance of playing finals if they continue to play with that positive attitude. The forwards have been great TPJ playing as a middle suits him and Waddell is a surprisingly very good edge forward. If we keep winning the forward battle we will score plenty when the team gels.
I agree with Micolic and Markovic... Waddell looks the goods when not trying to make something happen on every play... There is a heap to be positive about this year... The turning point was the woeful effort from Okunbor after the strip, my long dead Granny could have made that tackle or at least a better effort.
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+xIs Naden a winger or a centre? He doesn't seem to have a clue about setting up/using his outside man. Unfortunately that outside man is JAC. I reckon most centres in the comp have too much Rosin on their hands... Baz has to make a call on OK this week, will be interesting to see which way he goes... And is OK stays it's time to unleash the sack Baz posts...
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Thoughts in Jacko às the ball playing lock???
He's being hammered in some quarters but I felt like he went deep into the line and gave the halves plenty of time and space...
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+x+x+x+x+xMarki, you are way too critical, just go watch the replay and adjust your post accordingly. At least we are creating opportunities uunlike the last 5 years. When a player crosses the try line and the referee doesn't even entertain the idea of at least reviewing it, then you know the agenda of the NRLol and which team they will assist to win the game. I watched the replay and i can say that im hopeful for the future.... Its disappointing we didnt get the win. Could have gone either way. Broncos much improved from last couple of years. I'm not unhappy with creating the opportunities. Would still like us to create more, but certainly better than previous years which relied more on opposition errors than anything created on our own. The better teams just nail their opportunities more often than not. I'm resigned to the fact that we are a WIP and it be a topsy turvey year. I expect by mid season and certainly be end of year to be much more fluid and most players having locked in their best positions. What i still want to see however is a team that can score go into games with expectation of scoring a good 5 or 6 tries, and actually executing. 1 win from 2 is pretty much a pass mark at this stage - especially since we have been in the games to win them both. I actually think we can knock off one of the big teams in the coming weeks. There's good reason to have hope. I see it the same way mate. This year with so many new players we will see a lot of bad but also a lot of good. Might even be a chance of playing finals if they continue to play with that positive attitude. The forwards have been great TPJ playing as a middle suits him and Waddell is a surprisingly very good edge forward. If we keep winning the forward battle we will score plenty when the team gels.
I agree with Micolic and Markovic... Waddell looks the goods when not trying to make something happen on every play... There is a heap to be positive about this year... The turning point was the woeful effort from Okunbor after the strip, my long dead Granny could have made that tackle or at least a better effort. I never saw her play but I dare say you're on the money...
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Can I say I think references to Arey by Fox pundits as 'the little master' were way over the top...
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+xThoughts in Jacko às the ball playing lock??? He's being hammered in some quarters but I felt like he went deep into the line and gave the halves plenty of time and space... No problem with it so far. Maybe he occasionally needs to give early ball. It is modelling Yeo at the Panthers who is a great and smart player, Yeo very influential on the outcome of games. Structure wise there wasn't much wrong with the attack. The problem was the last pass including the lack of a pass, passing too early, or not executing.
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+x+xMarki, you are way too critical, just go watch the replay and adjust your post accordingly. At least we are creating opportunities uunlike the last 5 years. When a player crosses the try line and the referee doesn't even entertain the idea of at least reviewing it, then you know the agenda of the NRLol and which team they will assist to win the game. Mate... Let Leagues greatest mind and first armchair coaching immortal have his say... That AFL game he watched while we were playing showed him more than enough... Trust the science!!!... ....actually Hawks won. Glad you mentioned it!
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+x+xThoughts in Jacko às the ball playing lock??? He's being hammered in some quarters but I felt like he went deep into the line and gave the halves plenty of time and space... No problem with it so far. Maybe he occasionally needs to give early ball. It is modelling Yeo at the Panthers who is a great and smart player, Yeo very influential on the outcome of games. Structure wise there wasn't much wrong with the attack. The problem was the last pass including the lack of a pass, passing too early, or not executing. The difference is that Yeo has a predetermined idea of who he is passing /what he doing at the line, but can quickly adjust and play eyes-up footy if the defence blinks or give rise to an opportunity. Jackson is completely predetermined and no matter what the defence does, he goes ahead with it. Big difference in the outcome
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Well I just witnessed the Graham Anusley fvckfest, FMD that cagina should be a politician with the sh!t that dribbles from his mouth. As far as he was concerned the strip was a fair contest, nothing to see there and as far as the obstruction (and he shows the rules) after waffling on about the officials don't influence the results of the game. BUT the rules state that the Referee can decide whether contact during the obstruction has made a significant impact on the defence... and the bunker decided the contact on Burns was "minimal"...in other words the referee (or bunker) have the power to influence the result of a game. That is criminal. These rules should not have any reference to interpretation. They should read either " you can or you can't ...full stop.
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