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hounddog - 7 Sep 2022 7:17 PM
Des at Manly might be ending in tears, Bennett is chasing the Turbos.

If Tommy goes to the Dolphins, and we have the opportunity, then make a play for Jake.

As much as I would like to sign Tommy, I doubt that we can match the Dolphins offer.

DCE also apparently not popular with some team mates.

My only disappointment with Manly melting down isn't Parra.

I hope Penrith burst Parra's bubble, we want to win our next premiership before they do.

All teams in the finals are a chance.

Sharks and Raiders are a bigger chance than many think.

Offer DCE big coin. He is what we need. Perfect foil for Burto. 
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Micko - 7 Sep 2022 7:28 PM
hounddog - 7 Sep 2022 7:17 PM

Offer DCE big coin. He is what we need. Perfect foil for Burto. 

He is already on big coin.

I doubt that he is a good fit for us.
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Micko - 7 Sep 2022 7:22 PM
Steveswr33333 - 7 Sep 2022 12:22 PM

If Hodko played half in 2012 we could have finished bottom half of the eight like we did every other year with him playing half. But we will never know. The guy was similar to Flanno. Great defensive half. But there wasn’t much else. 

Well said. 
Good enough player to steer a team on a grind and with scores below 18 points.

But useless when the opposition intends to score at least 4 tries, like the 2014 GF

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Micko - 7 Sep 2022 7:28 PM
hounddog - 7 Sep 2022 7:17 PM

Offer DCE big coin. He is what we need. Perfect foil for Burto. 

Agreed
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hounddog - 7 Sep 2022 7:31 PM
Micko - 7 Sep 2022 7:28 PM

He is already on big coin.

I doubt that he is a good fit for us.

I agree with Micko.
DCE is exactly what Burton needs
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The Hayward Flegg highlights at the awards night are something else.

I can't think of a Dogs player with the same ability to set up tries off kicks.

Hayward is the best lower grade half I have seen since Thurston, class always stands out like a beacon.
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hounddog - 7 Sep 2022 9:49 PM
The Hayward Flegg highlights at the awards night are something else.

I can't think of a Dogs player with the same ability to set up tries off kicks.

Hayward is the best lower grade half I have seen since Thurston, class always stands out like a beacon.

Hayward could roll a joint on some plays, smoke it, and still put in the kick for a try.

Reminds me of a young Dman. Well part of it does.
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We do not want, nor do we need DCE. He is toxic and we don't need to have distractions during this phase of the rebuild.
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Marki - 7 Sep 2022 9:34 PM
Micko - 7 Sep 2022 7:22 PM

Well said. 
Good enough player to steer a team on a grind and with scores below 18 points.

But useless when the opposition intends to score at least 4 tries, like the 2014 GF

More than once the thought has gone through my head that Marki and Mick-0 are the same person....am I as delusional as they are?
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hounddog - 7 Sep 2022 9:49 PM
The Hayward Flegg highlights at the awards night are something else.

I can't think of a Dogs player with the same ability to set up tries off kicks.

Hayward is the best lower grade half I have seen since Thurston, class always stands out like a beacon.

Wow. Only seen him in a couple of NSW cup games and honestly.... saw nothing.
ZDC and even Wakeham looked better.

I might pay more attention to him next year but was horrified this year when Gus said "the next halfback is already at the club"



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Steveswr33333 - 7 Sep 2022 11:44 PM
Marki - 7 Sep 2022 9:34 PM

More than once the thought has gone through my head that Marki and Mick-0 are the same person....am I as delusional as they are?

Funny you should say that. You are not alone.
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I find the statement by Gould that Taylan May should be congratulated amazing. Taylan May is lucky that he was not facing more serious charges. He was not part of the conversation, he approached and assaulted the victim from behind, hence the magistrate's cowardly description. As the victim fell backwards as a result of the assault the back of his head narrowly missed the squared off edge of what looks like a planter box . If the back of his head hits that edge, and it was only chance that it didn't, it could have resulted in death or brain injury. The consequences could have been a lot more serious.
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Marki - 7 Sep 2022 9:36 PM
hounddog - 7 Sep 2022 7:31 PM

I agree with Micko.
DCE is exactly what Burton needs

Exactly what he needs. DCE would make Burto the best player in the game. He could just run and pass to Kiks and the Fox. 

But I doubt it happens. So I trust Gus and Ciro to find us the closest option available. A game managing half with a good kicking game will do. 

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hounddog - 7 Sep 2022 9:49 PM
The Hayward Flegg highlights at the awards night are something else.

I can't think of a Dogs player with the same ability to set up tries off kicks.

Hayward is the best lower grade half I have seen since Thurston, class always stands out like a beacon.

I rate the kid. Could be a superstar. Has the best football nous I have seen of any junior for years. But I don’t know if he will transition to first grade. I hope he does though. 
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Marki - 8 Sep 2022 7:12 AM
hounddog - 7 Sep 2022 9:49 PM

Wow. Only seen him in a couple of NSW cup games and honestly.... saw nothing.
ZDC and even Wakeham looked better.

I might pay more attention to him next year but was horrified this year when Gus said "the next halfback is already at the club"



My guess is that Hayward is the one, if not BBO.

But I expect Hayward to mostly play NSW cup next season.

When he first came into NSW cup, he played on the left and did some nice passes and kicks.

Later on he played a more passive role, not sure why they changed things, but they are not rushing him.
Odviously he js totally dominant playing in his age group and that doesn't always transfer to NRL.

His chip kicks seem to have backspin, the placement and length is close to perfect, not many players have that precision. But the pressure on the kicker in flegg is lacking.

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Aasistant coach Furner has signed with the Tigers for next year. Probably Ciraldo had a quiet word to Gus. How many coaches do Tigers have now?  Lol.....
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Vallo440 - 9 Sep 2022 7:50 AM
Aasistant coach Furner has signed with the Tigers for next year. Probably Ciraldo had a quiet word to Gus. How many coaches do Tigers have now?  Lol.....

Their problem is a level of administration  above coachi.
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hounddog - 8 Sep 2022 7:24 PM
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My guess is that Hayward is the one, if not BBO.

But I expect Hayward to mostly play NSW cup next season.

When he first came into NSW cup, he played on the left and did some nice passes and kicks.

Later on he played a more passive role, not sure why they changed things, but they are not rushing him.
Odviously he js totally dominant playing in his age group and that doesn't always transfer to NRL.

His chip kicks seem to have backspin, the placement and length is close to perfect, not many players have that precision. But the pressure on the kicker in flegg is lacking.

Kicking has never been easier than it is in today's game. Defences 10 metres back, kicking tees, all weather balls, protection by refs. In years gone by the kicker would be belted into the next post code if they took as long to kick as they get today. As long as they have the ability to kick they should be able to do it a game.
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Calling it now… flat track bullies Parra can’t win after that try…
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dman2018 - 9 Sep 2022 8:16 PM
Calling it now… flat track bullies Parra can’t win after that try…

Ha Ha sucked in Parra, I always enjoy a Parra loss.
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Good call.
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What Cleary did tonight Burton will do for us. And in the big games. 

They remind me of Johns and Fittler. Both fantastic kickers with all round games. 

We need to surround Burto with players that compliment him. Kikau and Mahoney is a great start. 

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Micko - 9 Sep 2022 10:18 PM
What Cleary did tonight Burton will do for us. And in the big games. 

They remind me of Johns and Fittler. Both fantastic kickers with all round games. 

We need to surround Burto with players that compliment him. Kikau and Mahoney is a great start. 

Either Cleary will be an immortal or Burton isn't anywhere near the level coz the gap between them is huge.

Yes he needs good platers around him, but Cleary is just as inexperienced and young and rarely plays a bad game and completely dominates.

Chalk and cheese
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Marki - 9 Sep 2022 10:58 PM
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Either Cleary will be an immortal or Burton isn't anywhere near the level coz the gap between them is huge.

Yes he needs good platers around him, but Cleary is just as inexperienced and young and rarely plays a bad game and completely dominates.

Chalk and cheese

Cleary has a lot more NRL experience in the halves, Burton has lots of improvement to come.

Hayward is more of a specalist halfback, at a young age his kicking and passing is good.

Hsyward might lack the floating bomb, but Burton has it.

At the opponents end Hayward has the vision and skill to execute good kicks.

Luai isn't a bad player, but Burton is a better player.
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The Panthers have particular tackle styles that they use.

One is - 2 players hold a guy upright and a 3rd  guy lifts one leg only.

CC and Gus will bring those techniques here.
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Marki - 9 Sep 2022 10:58 PM
Micko - 9 Sep 2022 10:18 PM

Either Cleary will be an immortal or Burton isn't anywhere near the level coz the gap between them is huge.

Yes he needs good platers around him, but Cleary is just as inexperienced and young and rarely plays a bad game and completely dominates.

Chalk and cheese

Cleary is on the right trajectory … but a long way off reaching those heights… His rare ordinary games have often come in big games… 

That said, re ‘the gap’ he’s a couple of years older than Burto, he plays a different position, the Panthers stifled his development for a year playing him in the centres, first year at new club, playing next to mostly plodders…

You’ve been down on Burto since rd 1… 

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hounddog - 10 Sep 2022 6:30 AM
The Panthers have particular tackle styles that they use.

One is - 2 players hold a guy upright and a 3rd  guy lifts one leg only.

CC and Gus will bring those techniques here.

They also are given more leniency in the ruck than most…
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hounddog - 10 Sep 2022 6:27 AM
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Cleary has a lot more NRL experience in the halves, Burton has lots of improvement to come.

Hayward is more of a specalist halfback, at a young age his kicking and passing is good.

Hsyward might lack the floating bomb, but Burton has it.

At the opponents end Hayward has the vision and skill to execute good kicks.

Luai isn't a bad player, but Burton is a better player.

Luai clearly not well yesterday.
Didn't see him do the "stacks-on" after the Penrith tries, although I missed the JFH try so not sure if he did it there.

He wasn't even in the frame when the others scored.

Luai is much more of a play maker than Burton right now and for the last few years. Doesn't kick long as well as Burton but he doesn't need to. He has Cleary for that. He's just a natural 5/8th.
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hounddog - 10 Sep 2022 6:30 AM
The Panthers have particular tackle styles that they use.

One is - 2 players hold a guy upright and a 3rd  guy lifts one leg only.

CC and Gus will bring those techniques here.

Good observation.
You forgot to add that they pirouette the player who is probably submitting in the tackle out of fear he might find his limb laying beside his face when hits the deck.
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dman2018 - 10 Sep 2022 11:01 AM
Marki - 9 Sep 2022 10:58 PM

Cleary is on the right trajectory … but a long way off reaching those heights… His rare ordinary games have often come in big games… 

That said, re ‘the gap’ he’s a couple of years older than Burto, he plays a different position, the Panthers stifled his development for a year playing him in the centres, first year at new club, playing next to mostly plodders…

You’ve been down on Burto since rd 1… 

I'm sure Burton will improve in a better team.
But I hate it when player and manager stick their hand out for a bigger pay check when the player hasn't delivered on his current pay check.

Got no problems him asking for top money at left centre. But to ask it at 5/8th and still needing a top halfback in the team so he can be "unlocked" is where I call BS.

We are simply paying him.for his boot. And even that has a price ceiling.
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